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But the show, which begs when Coel’s character Arabella starts piecg together memori of her asslt the bathroom of a bar, isn’t a one-woman piece—Arabella’s iends play an equally important role as both support group and fully-realized characters wh their own journeys. Paapa Essi’s role as Kwame is particularly ccial—after episo four, when Kwame is raped a Grdr meetup gone wrong, be clear that his plotle will parallel and illumatg ways differ om Arabella’s. From there, the tr go through the twisted procs of healg om their trmas, albe wh plenty of lgh out loud moments amongst some of the sadst scen.</p><p>In other hands, Kwame might have been jt another gay bt iend, but thanks to Essi’s ft, emotnally sensive actg, he be so much more. In episo after episo, the dience watch as Kwame scends to a “quiet speratn,” as Essi puts , gog as far as sleepg wh a woman an attempt to take back some ntrol his life. Over Zoom, GQ chatted wh the breakout star about this misguid effort, his character’s “tornado of sh journey,” and the very different next show that Amerins will see Essi , <em>Gangs of London</em>, which airs on AMC this fall.</p><p><strong>GQ:</strong> <em><strong>I May Dtroy You</strong></em> <strong>has been acclaimed the UK and the US. Did you know would be so well-received, and why do you thk ’s ronated wh so many people?</strong></p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p><em>Paapa Essi</em>: How n you ever predict somethg like that? And even if you did, how uld you voice that [lghs]? You know what I mean? I thk we were all really proud of what we did and ma. And we felt we were onto somethg, but the way someone receiv somethg is their choice. It's not ours.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Michaela do what so many people strive to do, which is to jt act for yourself. It's so rny, but 's so fuckg hard. It's so hard to be thentilly you through the stcture and mechanics of makg televisn or film. There's so many different filters and scen that you've got to get through before you even get your first draft on the page.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="kdq4x7"></div></div><p>It should enurage producers and missners to really figure out ways to facilate that other wrers and creators bee 's how people do their bt work. That's what ronat wh : “I know that person and that person is beg them.” And that allows me to look at myself and allows me to thk about what I might want for me.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>I haven’t seen someone do so much wh a sgle tear sce Denzel Washgton </strong> <em><strong>Glory</strong></em><strong>. Tell me about how you cid to play Kwame’s emotnal moments?</strong></p><p>It's fun bee as actors, when we approach a scene, we're so ndned to look through the script and see when is my turn to speak. Or thk, which one of the l is my l? And then I'll learn the le and I'll say the le and then people will clap. And 's not like that—pecially TV and film. It's a visual medium, and 's so much more about the embodiment and the habg of what the character is gog through. And I thk often that happens whout speech. Wh Kwame, I was really terted and cur about what he was like those moments of stillns or trospectn. He go through so much and he has so few opportuni to be heard or listened to or taken serly, but he feels a lot. It jt emerg om a cursy about the different ways that we munite.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="dptg82"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="e9s7w"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Absolutely. Like the scene at the Pat and We bar episo ne when Arabella is yellg at Kwame. You n tell that he's jt gog through so much. It's really tough to watch.</strong></p><p>Yeah. That's a really ccial moment bee there are so many plat spng along. Kwame is gog through what he's gog through, Terry's gog through what she's gog through terms of her own jail and plicy. Arabella is gog through everythg that she's gog through terms of the stage that she's at the [healg] procs, so the channels of munitn are not well lubrited, but the stak are still credibly high.</p><p><strong>The scene episo five where Kwame reports his sexual asslt to the police is one of the funnier moments but also one of the most harrowg. What were the nversatns that went to playg that scene?</strong></p><p>The guy who's playg the police officer is my iend. And he's a really funny guy. And obvly there is humor to . At the center of is a really important pot about who we allow to be seen as victims the ntext of a police vtigatn. The clever thg about the episo is 's kd of juxtaposed. I'm poted to Arabella's experience wh the police where she is very much empowered and she's ngratulated. And they even say, “If we had more people like you, then the thgs would happen ls.” This is jt such a huge thg for anybody to hear, pecially someone who's a survivor. And Kwame do hear that and thks [the police uld help him]. There is a great gap the expectatns of that stutn for black queer men. And I thk that is the most signifint tersectn of his character that is let down.</p><p><strong>In episo eight, Kwame ends up sleepg wh a whe woman. What were the nversatns about that?</strong></p><p>When we look at where Kwame is at that moment time, so many thgs that happen to him succsn have led to him beg disempowered or trivialized or unrvalug himself. There is lerally what happens [when he’s asslted] episo four, then there's the way he’s treated by the police episo five, and then there's him beg locked the bedroom episo seven.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>He also shar that his first time havg sex was a r wh two strangers who picked him up off the si of the street.</strong></p><p>Y. That's another thg that stretch back beyond the stcture of even the 12 episos. He is at a very difficult juncture his journey. I thk he's fightg for anythg that n allow him to feel ntrol of what he's dog and he's got tonomy on makg the next steps forward. But unfortunately, he fds himself a posn wh someone who's havg their own issu wh their prejudic and their motivatns for sex. He almost has on blrs like, “I jt need to do this one thg. And if I do this, then that means that I'm makg progrs and I'm ntrol. 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suatn, which is what he forc himself to do. Then he gets himself to the actual act and then he's triggered to thkg about lerally what happened to him, so then he tri to repeat that. He's really a posn of quiet speratn, I thk. And I thk he would probably look back on that cint far om fondly.</p><p><strong>The bate over the F-word vers the N-word was also so ep and nvoluted and nuanced.</strong></p><p>The nversatn that me and Michaela were havg was about Kwame's polics and how much is he ted what he thks? He hears the N-word substutn and he thks 's funny, more than anythg else. He lghs her off, which speaks to where he is terms of his thoughts and feelgs about that word rather than s relevance, historilly and prent, and specifilly regards to him. He's on the learng curve while he's the middle of this tornado of sh journey. It was very much about askg qutns rather than him displayg and munitg answers.</p><p><strong>I have to adm the one part where I felt tly gutted is where he lls Damon, the guy that he tak to the threome. I had been wishg for them to get back together. And they don’t.</strong></p><p>Aga, that guy seems happy. He's learned somethg que signifint about himself and he's allowed himself to accept that. It's a hugely posive thg for him. So what, are we like, “Fuck that guy and his procs”? No, we're not. We've got to be like, that is a w. But the timg is jt vastatg terms of the potential of their relatnship.</p><p><strong>What I also really love about the show, pecially as an Ain, is that</strong> <a href="><strong>there's black Brish slang, but also Ain-isms as well</strong></a><strong>. At one pot you’re talkg to somebody and you say, “oya” which is mon Nigerian slang. At another pot, Terry asks Arabella, “Do you need a walk, you need some dodo?” which is what Nigerians ll ied plantas. It felt like a ltle shout out to Ains as well.</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>It's so tertg that you pick up on those bs. Bee I know that my le wasn't scripted and I don't thk Terry's le was scripted eher, but that's somethg that speaks to drawg on your own experience or the realy of what 's like wh your iends or your fay. Language is so fluid and nstantly evolvg and beg add to, and actually ma more rich by your own culture. I thk that's really important morn wrg. What is the most specific and leral reprentatn of the people's liv? 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data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>I want to talk about the stum. We see you a bright unard, we see you a black bob wh a bang. You n wear anythg!</strong></p><p>The unards, would you believe me if I said to you that that was the most muted versn that we had? But yeah, <a href=">our stume signer is the queen</a>. She's amazg and has a real unrstandg of how fashn is an extensn of character and personaly. So much of the way that Kwame teracts wh the world is through his cloth, through the hats or the jackets that he wears. I uld never really feel him until I had the stume on and then sudnly fluenc the way you walk, the way you hold yourself, the swag, all of . The bob was my ia bee I'd seen Tyler the Creator play Brixton a uple of weeks before, and he had this blon bob this su, which I thought was jt so visually stunng.</p><p><strong>You’re also a new show lled</strong> <em><strong>Gangs of London</strong></em> <strong>that’s g to AMC this fall, playg Alex Dumani, a character who is the nsiglieri to a black gang boss. Alex seems to be the exact oppose of Kwame. What was like playg that role?</strong></p><p>I actually did <em>Gangs of London</em> before <em>I May Dtroy You</em>, so Alex preces Kwame my md. They're so different and I que enjoy that. If you play characters that are siar then you fd they blend to each other. Alex is the template of a succsful send generatn immigrant. His father me to the untry wh nothg and had to fight tooth and nail lerally to build some sort of prtige whatever we ll this society. So giv Alex accs to this opportuny. Wh Alex you see a young man who tak to a level that even his father uldn't. That's the thg, I suppose, about anized crime. The <em>aim</em> is always for legimacy—legimate means to ntue makg money, and actually to make more than you ever did. He's the guy who knows how to work the market to move the money the way that adds more power.</p><p><em><strong>Top Boy</strong></em> <strong>is another Brish show about anized crime that’s attracted a cult dience the US. What do you make of this wave?</strong></p><p>I really hope 's bee of seeg a world that feels real, but is also handled wh the same kd of attentn as <em>The Wire</em>, <em>The Sopranos</em>, or <em>Boardwalk Empire</em>, where there's a homogeny visually to some of those shows. It’s still an immigrant experience, but 's jt a different untry. I thk 's like whoa, that's kd of the same, but why are they talkg like that, why are they g that language? I thk people enjoy havg that kd of accs.</p><p><em>This terview has been eded and nnsed.</em></p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="cyqdmt"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__le-barrier 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