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Don't get wrong — he's athly pole and grac. But he had no problem portrayg pervert-for-the-ag Humbert Humbert <em>Lola</em>, partner-swappg tw gynelogists David Cronenberg's <em>Dead Rgers</em>, or the schemg, fornitg Pope Alexanr on <em>The Bias</em>, the third season of which premier this Sunday at 10 p.m. ET on Showtime. 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It's amazg.</p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JEREMY IRONS:</b> Yeah?</p><p data-no-id="6" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> The last few seasons, there's been sort of this risg ti agast the Pope, but wh last season's assassatn attempt I feel like he's full revenge mo.</p><p data-no-id="8" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> It mt have an effect on you if you are poisoned. You feel angry, but also I don't know what effect has for your head. Historilly seemed that he changed after that. I thk his fah God is eply shaken, and I thk he be even more temporal. So we will see.</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> He'll bee more paranoid and aggrsive?</p><p data-no-id="12" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Yeah, both those thgs. He feels like he's surround by people who are out to get him, and he's gog to get them first.</p><p data-no-id="14" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> "Jt bee you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you." It seemed like the send season you started to really revel playg the Pope. Did you jt get more fortable wh the character? </p><p data-no-id="16" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk the nature of the first seri one is often settg up a lot, and then once that's all set you n really beg to flow wh . I'm not sure if 's a good thg that you say I seem to revel — I've always believed the theater that if the actor seemed to be enjoyg themselv that's a good thg only as long as the dience are enjoyg themselv more.</p><style data-emotn="css 8c6v">{posn:absolute;left:-10000px;top:to;width:1px;height:1px;overflow:hidn;}</style><div data-ad-exclu class="css-8c6v ehha8ut0">This ntent is imported om youTube. 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It's fun to see someone ga so much power that he be disnnected om realy.</p><p data-no-id="22" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk power has a tenncy to do that. We're talkg at the moment about the fact that England so many of our policians are reer policians — they've always been policians sce they left their tn. And the old days of urse policians ed to be fish mongers or doctors or whatever. They'd lived life. The days, power seems to go to the hands of people that that's all they've done. And I'm not sure that's a good thg, bee do remove them om the reali of life. We see that happeng certaly wh the Pope, and I thk so much that Neil Jordan has put to the seri — you n actually very clearly see morn equivalents, even though 's sort of geo and medieval and whatever. I don't thk we've changed very much.</p><p data-no-id="24" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> No, I don't thk so eher. Have you been followg the papal electn?</p><p data-no-id="26" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Gently, y I have. I was most amed that the stove was put si the Siste Chapel, and the hole was ma the roof for the chimneys, and all of that. I never realized that. We missed that trick.</p><p data-no-id="28" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> They won't let you film the Siste Chapel?</p><p data-no-id="30" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> The Siste Chapel hadn't been built by the time Alexanr was Pope. It was lla Rovere who built when he beme Pope.</p><p data-no-id="32" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Spoiler alert. He gets you the end, I gus.</p><p data-no-id="34" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Historilly, certaly. </p><p data-no-id="36" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> It's hard wh shows like this and <em>Boardwalk Empire</em> and even <em>Deadwood</em> not to rearch what actually happened and sort of for yourself. Do you watch televisn? I n't really image .</p><p data-no-id="38" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I'm not a great televisn watcher. I watched <em>Para's End</em> when I flew over here for five hours. Did you see <em>Para's End</em>? It was a seri ma for televisn that I thk went out eher on PBS or HBO [<em>eds. note: It was HBO</em>], wrten by Tom Stoppard. It's a very, very tertg story set jt before and durg the First World War. I thought that was really splendid.</p><p data-no-id="40" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> I'm a big fan of Benedict Cumberbtach.</p><p data-no-id="42" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> So am I. I thk he's wonrful. I also thought the girls were wonrful, and I thought Rebec Hall was absolutely splendid a really difficult role. And the other girl, the blon —</p><p data-no-id="44" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Alai Clemens.</p><p data-no-id="46" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> She's really tertg isn't she? </p><p data-no-id="48" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Yeah. She's Atralian, I thk.</p><p data-no-id="50" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Is she? I had never seen her before. Round head like a football, but a fantastic qualy.</p><p data-no-id="52" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> As an actor, I feel like mt be hard to lose yourself the performance and not be thkg about all of the thgs that go to . Are you able to do that?</p><p data-no-id="54" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Absolutely. Absolutely. Remember that when we shoot, we have to fet all that stuff and put ourselv an imagary world and not see the meras and not see the lights, not sort of be thrown by the artificialy of all. That's what we do. So I fd very easy to s and watch a screen and get sucked to the world whout sort of beg objective about , you know what I mean? I thk that's the only way to enjoy .</p><p data-no-id="56" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> There seems to be a wave of the Shakpearean actors dog the very sort of schemg, power-hungry, big rol, <em>Hoe of Cards</em>, Ciarán Hds on <em>Game of Thron</em>, and obvly <em>The Bias</em>. What is about dog Shakpeare that prepar you for those kd of rol?</p><p data-no-id="58" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk nobody sce has wrten such extraordary work as Shakpeare wr. The characters he wr are full of nsistenci, which is a great human qualy — I mean we're all very nsistent the way we behave. I thk a lot of film wrg n be very schematic, and one of the joys of dog a prolonged seri like <em>The Bias</em> is you're able to embrace those nsistenci and revel them — like the fact that he uld be lled a murrer and a fornitor but he is also a man of God. And that's not a medieval qualy necsarily. Look at a man who I believe is eply Christian, Gee W. Bh, and yet through his orrs thoands of nocent civilians were killed a far-off untry.</p><p data-no-id="60" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> It seems like orr to get away wh thgs now you have to hi them really well, or at least be able to jtify them and pretend to be perfect public. Pope Alexanr got away wh so much that Pope Francis uldn't manage, not least of which is openly havg a fay.</p><p data-no-id="62" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk the world is much more transparent now, and I thk that's probably a good thg. On the other hand, I thk mak really tough for people who are natural born lears who uld be guidg and leadg our untri. You look worldwi for the great lears, and they're pretty th on the ground, and of urse the problem is unls you're squeaky, squeaky clean, somethg is gog to e out of the cupboard. Most people aren't squeaky clean. Most people have fallen by the waysi once or twice their liv, and bee the world is so transparent now, I thk they're very fearful of nng for office. It's a huge shame, bee often people who have really lived and are amazg people n be brought down by a past discretn.</p><p data-no-id="64" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> It seems like the last Pope might have been gay, and his assistant might have been his lover or his pann. Do you thk the same sort of shenanigans are gog on now that were gog on when Pope Alexanr was pope, or is that impossible this climate?</p><p data-no-id="66" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Well, I don't know. The Vatin is shroud secrecy, but wouldn't surprise me, let's put like that. It wouldn't surprise me.</p><p data-no-id="68" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Pope Francis is really playg up the whole "I don't want to s the big goln Pope chair, and I don't want to wear the Pope hat or the Pope Prada loafers." But seems to me that would be very difficult, much like would be very difficult to bee print, to bee Pope if you didn't want to bee Pope. It seems like somethg you would have to work toward your entire life.</p><p data-no-id="70" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I don't know. There's a wonrful film, <em>Habem Papam</em> wh Michel Picli, about a man who gets elected Pope, and 's the last thg he wants to be. I would have thought, knowg human nature, that Pope Francis probably tak as a duty, somethg that has been put about him, somethg that he might have been happier not to have had to take on. I thk he se very clearly a lot of the problems the Vatin, and his way of alg wh is to try and show that the church is an anizatn for the people, that 's not a vast burecracy pletely out of touch. I thk what he's been dog might be to his personal taste anyway, the washg of the feet, the strippg away of all the non-sentials. I thk that is possibly a sign for the rt of the church that that is what they need to do, and I do believe 's what they need to do.</p><p data-no-id="72" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> I'm 100-percent wh you that he seems like a nice person, but I n't image that the Catholic Church would elect somebody who would fundamentally change them.</p><p data-no-id="74" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> Well, they've done before.</p><p data-no-id="76" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Have they? Wh whom?</p><p data-no-id="78" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> They did wh the Pope who only lasted for a few months. He died myster circumstanc, and he was a real man of the people. The nspiracy theorists would say that he was bumped off bee he was dog too much to change thgs.</p><p data-no-id="80" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Okay, I'm lookg at the list. The Pope before JPII was, yeah, only office for 33 days.</p><p data-no-id="82" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> That's right.</p><p data-no-id="84" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> I know that you aren't a practicg Catholic, but has learng about all the papal history phed you further om the church, or has beg the Pope's sk ma you empathize and feel closer to ?</p><p data-no-id="86" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk my posn has remaed the same through . My wife is Catholic, and my children are Catholic, and though they're all pretty lapsed, I go to church wh them. I happen to have a wonrful lol Catholic prit Ireland who is sort of the center of our muny, and I admire him enormoly. So for me the Catholic Church is our church down near Skibbereen Kile. I don't judge by what is done history, what 's dog now, the terrible rash of pedophilia which is g out. I jt judge by this immensely humble man who cements our muny an extraordary way, bee that is what the church should do. I see the good that Father Kyle do my muny and I value that.</p><p data-no-id="88" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Do you thk your Catholic past and your nnectn to your home church have fluenced your chary work?</p><p data-no-id="90" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I don't know. Maybe. All the thgs are sort of part of a person, aren't they? What ltle chary work I do out of a feelg of "Wherefore by the grace of God go I," which is why I tend to support prisoners. Bee I thk so many of make mistak and are actually good people but get on the wrong si of the system, and God help then.</p><p data-no-id="92" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Let me preface this qutn by lettg you know I'm not gog to ask you to elaborate or fend <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="what you said about gay marriage" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">what you said about gay marriage</a> the Huffgton Post terview. To me didn't seem that you had an anti-gay marriage agenda or that was g om a bad place, but was somethg you jt thought of the moment. When you're a public figure, somethg like that immediately be part of who Jeremy Irons is, an entry on your Wikipedia page — do that bother you?</p><p data-no-id="94" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> It do. I've always believed that the great strength of the Inter is that allows to munite wh each other, allows bate. And I thk that is a huge step forward. But bate is throwg ias about, and when be sort of a weapon of character assassatn, I thk that's crazy. I thk the suatn Ameri is different om England, where we have civil partnership, and now the vote on gay marriage has been rried, and whether will go through Parliament I don't know. All I was dog was, and 's very difficult short sound b, was jt sort of addrsg marriage and what marriage sort of meant, and I'm very ill-rmed on . I thk everybody should have the chance to be happy, and to feel secure wh relatnships, and perhaps gay marriage is the way that if you're gay that n happen. But I don't know. It's a subject which divis people. It's a subject we should talk about, and I'm probably too loose-mouthed for my own good. But I do believe that we should nont the qutns and discs them a sort of adult and unhysteril way, wh no bigotry attached. Which is what I tried to do. </p><p data-no-id="96" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> It is hearteng that the public is so adamant mandg equaly for everyone, even though at your expense. Your remarks me out a way that people uld really jump on.</p><p data-no-id="98" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I thk I should perhaps be more polic. I've never been polic. I've always believed that we owe to ourselv and to society to state our views, which are probably ill-rmed, and unclearly thought out. But that's the nature of . I no way nigrate any sectn of society at all, and perhaps gay marriage is the way should go. But affects the stat I suppose of heterosexual marriage, or do ? I don't know. I mean I'm explorg , and the danger is when you explore that on a public stage you n be stigated. But I see policians beg so polil when they're talkg about thgs, and I thk, <em>Why don't you actually say what you feel?</em> They don't, and I thk that puts a muzzle on real discsn, and that's very dangero.</p><p data-no-id="100" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Part of beg a polician is offendg the least amount of people you n.</p><p data-no-id="102" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> But that's not the way forward.</p><p data-no-id="104" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>ESQ:</b> Well, luckily you don't have to be elected to be an actor.</p><p data-no-id="106" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><b>JI:</b> I know.</p><style data-emotn="css 2ok9l4">{marg-top:1.875rem;borr-top:th solid #595959;}</style><div data-jam-id="thor-b" class="css-2ok9l4 e13rjwo40"><style data-emotn="css f0b5z8">{display:grid;grid-template-lumns:to 1;grid-lumn-gap:0.625rem;paddg-top:1.25rem;paddg-bottom:1.25rem;clear:both;}</style><div class="css-f0b5z8 e19xk9rq8"><style data-emotn="css irehmq">{borr-radi:50%;height:60px;width:60px;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{width:40px;height:40px;}}</style><span class="css-irehmq e19xk9rq1"><style data-emotn="css o0wq4v">{width:100%;height:100%;borr-radi:50%;vertil-align:middle;object-f:ver;}</style><img src="" alt="Headshot of Anna Peele" tle="Headshot of Anna Peele" width="100%" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" class="css-o0wq4v e19xk9rq3" /></span><div><style data-emotn="css 3sqxrq">{display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;grid-gap:4px;-webk-align-ems:basele;-webk-box-align:basele;-ms-flex-align:basele;align-ems:basele;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;}</style><div class="css-3sqxrq e19xk9rq7"><span class="css-0 e19xk9rq5"><style data-emotn="css 1yunoig">{lor:#161616;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacg:0.02rem;-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-lor:her;text-ratn-thickns:0.0625rem;text-transform:upperse;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.3;}}{lor:#595959;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;}</style><style data-emotn="css 1kgdfad">{lor:#161616;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacg:0.02rem;text-transform:upperse;lor:#161616;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacg:0.02rem;-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-lor:her;text-ratn-thickns:0.0625rem;text-transform:upperse;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.3;}}{lor:#595959;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;}</style><a href="/thor/1474/anna-peele/" class="e1c1bym13 css-1kgdfad e1c1bym14"><span>Anna Peele</span></a></span></div><style data-emotn="css 1b1navg">{display:-webk-box;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1rem;le-height:1.4;overflow:hidn;paddg-top:0.3125rem;-webk-box-orient:vertil;-webk-le-clamp:5;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{-webk-le-clamp:10;}}>*{display:le;} em{font-fay:CharterItalic,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} p{marg:0rem;} p a{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:0.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:her;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;} p a:hover{text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;}</style><div class="css-1b1navg e19xk9rq4"><p><em><strong>Anna Peele is a culture wrer and edor who has wrten featur for Esquire, GQ, The Washgton Post Magaze, and New York Magaze.</strong></em> </p></div></div></div></div><style data-emotn="css ciejky">{clear:both;marg-top:1.25rem;}</style><div id="journey-le" class="css-ciejky e1cslvxz0"></div><div class="css-79elbk eg8z2o90"><div class="css-79elbk e1tp40ll1"><div data-anchor-id="P0-0" class="css-0 e1tp40ll0"></div></div><style data-emotn="css hi6ssp">{display:block;grid-area:article_body;grid-lumn:article_body-start/article_body-end;grid-row:to;jtify-self:center;marg:1.25rem 0 0;}@media prt{{display:none;}}@media(max-width: 30rem){{width:100%;}}@media(max-width: 61.25rem){{m-height:28rem;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{width:488px;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{width:612px;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{max-width:40.25rem;}}</style><div class="css-hi6ssp eg8z2o92"></div></div></div></div><div></div><style data-emotn="css 6b9rfj">{display:block;-webk-flex-basis:lc((100vw - 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