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- WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
- THE VOICE OF CHICAGO'S GAY, LESBIAN, BI, TRANS AND QUEER COMMUNITY SINCE 1985
- STEPPG OUT PLAY ABOUT GAY LIFE : THEATER: DAN BUTLER, WHO PORTRAYS A SPORTSSTER ON ‘FRASIER,’ 14 VIGT TO WEAVE TOGETHER THE ONE-MAN SHOW ‘THE ONLY THG WORSE YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME.’
- THE VOICE OF CHICAGO'S GAY, LESBIAN, BI, TRANS AND QUEER COMMUNITY SINCE 1985
WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
* dan butler gay *
Dan Butler played Frasier and Roz's chvistic and very heterosexual -worker Bob "Bulldog" Brise on the show, so he shocked fans when he me out publicly as a gay man early on the show's n. It was jt procsg what gay means, if anythg, " Butler explaed.
"Durg the n of Frasier was when Butler me out publicly as a gay man. He was great as a gay prit Tracey Ullman’s Tracey Tak On. For me he's one of those men I know is gay and don't qutn his heterosexualy when playg a straight character, which is what was required Anonymoreply 13July 30, 2018 7:40 PM.
THE VOICE OF CHICAGO'S GAY, LESBIAN, BI, TRANS AND QUEER COMMUNITY SINCE 1985
I was shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU, to hear he was gay. R23 - most people did not believe that so many characters on Frasier were gay, particularly Bulldog and the of my straight iends would believe Anonymoreply 29November 24, 2020 2:01 PM.
He played a Datalounger the scene wh the bchy elrgays the Netflix Tal of the Anonymoreply 30November 24, 2020 2:13 PM.
[quote]most people did not believe that so many characters on Frasier were gay, particularly Bulldog and the 's bee the CHARACTERS weren't gay, Anonymoreply 35November 24, 2020 3:33 PM. 70 m)BornDecember 2, 1954Fort Wayne, Indiana, USASpoeRichard WaterhoeSeptember 12, 2010 - prentParentsAndrew ButlerOther worksWrote and starred "The Only Thg Worse You Could Have Told Me", a (semi-tobgraphil) one-man play about gay life.
STEPPG OUT PLAY ABOUT GAY LIFE : THEATER: DAN BUTLER, WHO PORTRAYS A SPORTSSTER ON ‘FRASIER,’ 14 VIGT TO WEAVE TOGETHER THE ONE-MAN SHOW ‘THE ONLY THG WORSE YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME.’
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"But no such acunt om Dan Butler or David Hy Pierce, two gay men who knew Mahoney om workg together on Frasier. A story was passed along to me that he once stopped talkg to a iend the 1980s for divulgg he was gay.
THE VOICE OF CHICAGO'S GAY, LESBIAN, BI, TRANS AND QUEER COMMUNITY SINCE 1985
I have keen gaydar and an good ear for celebry gossip. Did I thk John Mahoney was gay? )But the wake of his ath, discsn of Mahoney's actg prows or humany were quickly overshadowed by chatter about his remd of the speech his character, Jack, giv The Broken Hearts Club:Sometim I wonr what you boys would do if you weren't gay.
On my feed, iends were sistg they'd read articl where he spoke openly about his sexualy, or swore they saw him at gay bars. )That a creative artist, a kd-hearted man by all acunts, had died of throat ncer a hospice, was was a time you uld unt the number of gay actors on one hand.