How to Talk to Your Son About Beg Gay - Advice for Men om Dave Holm

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Wendy Montgomery was part of the Mormon church's mpaign to aid a ballot iative banng same-sex marriage California. But her fah was shaken when she found out her teenage son is gay.

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JT BEE HE BREATH: LEARNG TO TLY LOVE OUR GAY SON

* we love our gay son *

Some of you might have noticed that our son Ryan announced today on social media that he is gay.

• I fd hard to believe – and stomach – that some parents whdraw their love om their own children when they disclose that they are gay. • I unrstand that there are a lot of unanswered qutns about homosexualy.

I TRIED TO STOP MY SON OM BEG GAY. HERE’S WHAT I WISH I HAD KNOWN

A UK man took to Redd to seek advice about his gay son, and THIS is the kd of wholome, heart-warmg ntent we love to hear about durg hard tim! * we love our gay son *

The lack of revelatn om God regardg the how’s, why’s and what’s to bee of regardg homosexualy, and the Church’s flailg while sperately tryg to addrs this issue do not build fah, requir addnal fah.

By now u probably have an ia of what i am about to says: I am gayRyan says: i n't believe i jt told youMom says: Are you jokg?

WHY -- AND HOW -- WE ACCEPT OUR GAY SON AS DEVOUT MORMON PARENTS

My Dead Gay Son Lyrics: You wa jt a mute, Pl! It is ignorant, hateful talk like yours that mak this world a place our boys uld not live ! / (sung) / They were not dirty! / They were not * we love our gay son *

Ryan says: i know i amRyan says: i don't like hannahRyan says: 's jt a ver-upMom says: but that don't make you says: i knowRyan says: but u don't unrstandRyan says: i am gayMom says: tell me moreRyan says: 's jt the way i am and 's somethg i knowRyan says: u r not a lbian and u know that.

Ryan says: i am jt gayRyan says: i am thatMom says: I love you no matter whatRyan says: i am whe not blackRyan says: i knowRyan says: i am a boy not a girlRyan says: i am attracted to boys not girlsRyan says: u know that about yourself and i know thisMom says: what about what God thks about actg on the sir? Not that we didn't know and love gay people; my only brother had e out to several years before, and we adored him. The feelgs you've had for other guys don't make you gay.

So please don't tell anyone that you are gay. Your inty is not that you are gay; is that you are a child of love you.

KEEPG THE FAH, AND LOVG YOUR GAY SON

Whatever fears parents have about sayg the wrong thgs or makg the wrong cisns, Greg and Lynn McDonald will not be shocked at all. By their own acunt, they ma every mistake possible when they learned their 17-year-old son, Greg Jr., is gay. * we love our gay son *

He read all the books that claimed to know where his gay feelgs me om, dove to unselg to further disver the whys of his unwanted attractn to other guys, worked through paful nflict rolutn wh my hband and me and built strong iendships wh other guys -- straight guys -- jt like the reparative therapy experts advised. And we lost the abily to love our gay son, bee we no longer had a gay son. What we had wished for, prayed for, hoped for -- that we would not have a gay son -- me te.

But not at all the way we had, when I thk back on the fear that erned all my reactns durg those first six years after Ryan told he was gay, I crge as I realize how foolish I was.

Now, whenever Rob and I jo our gay iends for an eveng, I thk about how much I would love to be visg wh Ryan and his partner over dner. 14, 2013, which would have been Ryan's 24th is now posted, along wh other blog posts, at sonGay ChildrenLGBT kidsParents Of Gay kidsgay kids. By now u probably have an ia of what i am about to I am gayRyan: i n’t believe i jt told youMom: Are you jokg?

GOP LAWMAKER SAYS HE’S ‘ROOTG’ FOR GAY SON AT WEDDG AFTER VOTG AGAST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE BILL

There's a new Android app out (here's the English versn) lled "Is My Son Gay?" which one n answer an easy seri of qutns ("Are you divorced?") that will tell you if, fact, your son is a gay person. * we love our gay son *

Ryan: i know i amRyan: i don’t like hannahRyan: ’s jt a ver-upMom: but that don’t make you gay…Ryan: i knowRyan: but u don’t unrstandRyan: i am gayMom: tell me moreRyan: ’s jt the way i am and ’s somethg i knowRyan: u r not a lbian and u know that. Ryan: i am jt gayRyan: i am thatMom: I love you no matter whatRyan: i am whe not blackRyan: i knowRyan: i am a boy not a girlRyan: i am attracted to boys not girlsRyan: u know that about yourself and i know thisMom: what about what God thks about actg on the sir?

Not that we didn’t know and love gay people — my only brother had e out to several years before, and we adored him. The feelgs you’ve had for other guys don’t make you gay.

PARENTS ASK: SHOULD WE WA FOR OUR SON TO E OUT — OR ASK HIM OURSELV IF HE’S GAY?

So please don’t tell anyone that you ARE gay. Your inty is not that you are gay — is that you are a child of love you.

MY GRANDSON IS GAY… AND I LOVE HIM VERY MUCH

He read all the Christian books that explaed where his gay feelgs me om and dove to unselg to further disver the orig of his unwanted attractn to other guys. What we had wished, prayed and hoped for — that we would not have a gay son — me te. I was aaid of all the wrong, when I thk back on the fear that erned all my reactns durg those first six years after Ryan told he was gay, I crge as I realize how foolish I was.

We alsolearned that many kids who are genr-nonnformg like Will wouldbe gay when they grow wh that knowledge, didn't e as a surprise when, at age9, Will began to tell he had csh on other boys. As an activeLDS fay, the fact that our son may be gay had many implitns fos.

Seegher rearch helped give the urage and permissn to celebrateWill for the credibly strong and brave person that he is -- exactlyas he FAP is releasg a new versn of the origal pamphlet thathelped , Supportive Fai, Healthy Children, aimed specifilly at LDSfai of lbian, gay, bisexual, and transgenr (LGBT) pamphlet enabl LDS fai to keep their foc on thewell-beg of their kids by lettg them know the nsequenc of thetheir acceptance or lack thereof, wrten language that will befaiar to LDS rears. But to actually be lockg ey wh Ellen and hold her, shakg hands as she said, "I'm gay, " on natnal televisn and for the first time, as she has shared outloud that way publicly, was such a profoundly extraordary and timate gift to that moment that I will forever be grateful for. Keepg The Fah, And Lovg Your Gay Son.

MAGIC JOHNSON TALKS ABOUT G TO LOVE HIS GAY SON

But her fah was shaken when she found out her teenage son is gay. Interview Highlights "Everythg I thought a gay person was... And I remember hearg thgs growg up like 'AIDS is God's punishment for homosexualy' and that beg gay was a choice.

One of the first thoughts I had when I learned Jordan was gay was that everythg I thought a gay person was, he was none of those thgs.

No apologi, please Havg a gay son, some people e up and they apologize, they're like "oh, I'm so sorry, that mt be awful.

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I am a better person for havg a gay son.

So when people apologize to me for havg a gay son, I say "please don't. " My life isn't hard and hard thgs don't happen bee I have a gay son. It's how people treat me bee I have a gay son.

HOW TO TELL IF YOUR SON IS GAY

The tight quarters revealed to one father that his son is gay, though the 20-year-old hasn't e out to him yet. A Republin Congrsman told guts a speech at his gay son’s weddg that he was “rootg” for the newlywed uple -- a mere three days after he voted agast same-sex marriage.

A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN EXPRS UNWAVERG LOVE FOR HER GAY SON

Dear Civili: My hband and I have a tween son whom we n easily image, one day, tellg that he is gay.

I’m gog to take a page om my own fay’s playbook: Among my parents’ iends was a gay uple whom my folks regularly ved to dner along wh their straight iends. The unspoken lson was simple: Gay people are like everyone else, and they had a seat at our table jt like everyone else. That msage was clear (and reassurg) to me as a young gay boy who was not yet out.

My parents were servg their valu to all of along wh Mom’s chicken, the bt thg you uld do for your son will take place before the talk, and that's to be matter-of-fact about beg gay.

MY SON MIGHT BE GAY. WHAT SHOULD I SAY TO HIM?

As Kenny Leve, a gay clil social worker, explaed to me: "To the extent that parents n clear out some of those worri ahead of time, mak much easier for them to be open about who they are.

Rourc: Parents might want to check out the two anizatns: PFLAG (Parents, Fai and Friends of Lbians and Gays), which has 350 chapters all 50 stat and is a great rource for parents of LGBTQ kids. GLSEN (the Gay, Lbian & Straight Edutn Network) is a leadg natnal tn anizatn foced on ensurg safe schools for all other week, Steven Petrow, the thor of "Steven Petrow's Complete Gay & Lbian Manners, " addrs qutns about LGBT and straight etiquette his lumn, Civili. Picture this: your grandson has jt told you he’s gay.

When your grandchild choos to e out to you and be openly gay, may be the most urageo choice they will ever make. After the rolleraster of emotns they go through, many fai actually look back and fd that you are grateful for the experience of havg a gay or lbian child. Michael LaSala says, “Well, my study of 65 fai of gay and lbian youth for the book, Comg Out, Comg Home: Helpg Fai Adjt to a Gay or Lbian Child, I found that some parents get to the pot where they believe that the experience of havg a gay child actually ma them a better person – more open md and sensive to the needs of others, particularly those other mory groups.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* WE LOVE OUR GAY SON

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