'Love, Simon' actor out as gay | SBS Voic

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class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP bwyLBj"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eOdfIs"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>In 2018, ’s both unbelievable and all too real that <em>Love, Simon</em> is the first film om a major stud wh a gay teen lead. Based off the book <em>Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda</em> by Becky Albertalli, the upg film follows our tular hero as he strik up a secret, anonymo romance wh Blue, the cyber-psdonym of another closeted guy who jt so happens to also go to his high school. When class clown Mart disvers their emails, he begs to blackmail Simon, who is sudnly faced wh the possibily of beg forced out of the closet before he’s ready. Meanwhile, there’s a mil theatre productn to put on, a group of te iends to keep up wh, and the totally csh-worthy Blue to swoon over. It’s the kd of story I would have moved mountas to have high school, if only bee — spoiler alert — ends joy.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Director Greg Berlanti’s first feature film was 2000’s <em>The Broken Hearts Club</em>, a movie that remaed disproportnately important to my teenage self for a long time bee of s portrayal of real, multifaceted gay love. Sce then, Berlanti has been all over your TV, producg everythg om <em>Everwood</em> to <em>Supergirl</em> to <em>Riverdale</em>. Keiynan Lonsdale (Wally Wt the Berlanti-produced <em>The Flash</em> and <em>Legends of Tomorrow</em>) stars here an ensemble of sweet weirdos that orb Simon’s Oreo-filled world. Lonsdale <a href=">me out on Instagram</a> last sprg, wrg, “I like girls, & I like guys (y)… I hope we n all learn to embrace who we are.”</p><p><em>Love, Simon</em> is the rare film that helps dienc do jt that. When Simon fally tells his fay he’s gay, his mom rponds wh stctnal kdns: “You get to exhale now.” I know I’m not the only one who’s been holdg my breath for a movie like this.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>I sat down wh Greg Berlanti and Keiynan Lonsdale Vanuver to discs their new film, g out, and the power of queer reprentatn. <em>Love, Simon</em> premier theatr across North Ameri on March 16th.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="b384kd"></div></div><p></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>If you uld eavdrop on a queer teen talkg about this film to their iends, what would you hope to hear them sayg?</strong></p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="66cf2c"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="lltpr"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> First of all, I would hope that they already accepted and loved themselv and felt safe before seeg this movie. But if they didn’t, would be an unbelievable thg to hear them say that they feel safer, more acceptg of themselv, and they feel like they n embrace themselv.</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> When I was growg up, movi like this didn’t exist. There was an extra layer of thkg you had to do when you were watchg a movie to image a character that might be like you. It wasn’t until I started watchg footage om this film and I began to have a more visceral reactn that I realized: you’re not havg to do the extra arhmetic of experiencg somethg, you get to jt experience . This movie n seem like a simple story or a light rom-, but the fact that you’re gettg to experience that ri as yourself— I thk that’s the importance of reprentatn when to this kd of art.</p><p><strong>The first queer movie I saw was <em>The Broken Hearts Club</em>, which was eply important to me as a teen. For some people, <em>Love, Simon</em> is gog to be that film. Do you remember what your first queer film was?</strong></p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> I thk me was <em>Priscilla, Queen of the Dert</em>. Even om two or three years old, I would wear my mom’s cloth. I always had to have a bandana hangg down om my curl bee felt like then I had long, flowg hair. I uldn’t leave the hoe whout . Then I started to regnize, jt om fay iends or whatever, that that was emed as not okay. Or was okay, but was more like — entertag. I remember seeg that film and realizg, “Oh, ’s not jt me, there are adults that do this. This is a whole other level to what I’d thought.” I remember beg blown away.</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I know the on that were important to me once I got to llege. <em>Longtime Compann</em> was one of those movi. It had jt e out around then, and I remember where llege I hid the tape of . 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RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw gmWMTZ ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="6pcw"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs laPXdt"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="y8mo6"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>This is a qutn for you, Keiynan. As someone who publicly me out last year, what was like to be this film, knowg that was a part of your own story as well?</strong></p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> When I thk about now, feels a b like a blur bee I was gog through so many chang my personal life. I wasn’t out publicly durg the filmg. I wasn’t even out to the st until the wrap party.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Greg:</strong> You were out to me.</p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> I was out to Greg. I remember llg one of my clost iends and I was really upset. I was like, “I’m dog this film wh a gay director, his fay is on set, we’re all so supportive, the film is about a gay love story, and I still don’t know how to be myself. I still am aaid. I don’t know what I’m aaid of.” My iend said, “First of all, don’t be hard on yourself. This is still a journey for you. Send, maybe look at this as an opportuny, like, that’s tertg, I have all the thgs perfectly place that uld take away my fear but there’s still somethg me. What is that?” I thk that gave me the urage to tell my st on the day of wrap. Which was such a chill thg once happened bee we were all so close.</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I didn’t know that they didn’t know! Good thg I didn’t slip up and say somethg. I would never do that — but I’m glad I didn’t say anythg.</p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> That was somethg that ma me nervo too. Bee you knew, I was like, “I don’t know if he knows that they don’t know.”</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I had no ia they didn’t know.</p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> So a few weeks after… I wasn’t planng on g out that day. It’s jt somethg that happened. It was like there was a ball nstantly growg here my cht. It jt me to a pot where I was like, “I am lettg go of this. I don’t want this anymore. It’s not supposed to be here anymore. 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RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw gmWMTZ ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="ks9gno"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs laPXdt"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="sbve2"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I love anythg that’s a pot of entry for dialogue between people. A lot of people were like, “This is the movie I wished I had at fifteen or sixteen.” I was not as urageo. I wouldn’t have gone to see the movie bee I would have been aaid that people would have thought I was gay if I did. I would have avoid or gone to a neighborg cy to see or not seen and been dyg to. I don’t know if ’s still the same for kids out there. But shows that maybe the most challengg obstacle when you’re alg wh your sexualy is ternal. Our parents are fely one aspect of that — they start a lot of the language that go on our head.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> Whout givg too much away, I thk that the way ’s alt wh the film om the parents’ perspective is spirg. I hope giv permissn for other parents to have that nfince.</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> My dad saw the movie wh me. The next day, we were drivg around and he started askg qutns about beg gay high school. He’s never asked me and I’m 45 years old! On one hand I was very grateful for those qutns, but mostly I was like, “You know what, I’ve ma to 45 and we didn’t al wh this, so I don’t thk we have to talk about actually!”</p><p><strong>What ially drew you to the story? When did you know that you had to be volved makg this movie?</strong></p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> Hontly, the whole thg felt too good to be te. It also clashed wh dat that I was filmg <em>Flash</em>, so I didn’t see myself . It wasn’t until I got the ll that I’d got the part that beme a real thg. And I actually got really sad. Bee sudnly I realized what meant for me. I felt the weight of the project and then I beme really sred and I was like, “I n’t do this. I’m not ready.” But I gus I was perfectly ready.</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I had heard about the book through my office, who pursued to do as a movie. They told me was great and then we didn’t get the job. But one day my agent sent me the pleted script. It was a Saturday afternoon and I was supposed to be wrg somethg, which is the bt time to read somethg else — bee you never want to do the work that’s ont of you. I was like, “I’ll jt read ten pag,” and then I started readg twenty, and then I read the whole thg rerd time. When I got to the end, I had the same emotnal reactn that the dience hopefully has now. When that light swch gets flipped me, ’s like fallg love. And all the thgs that e along wh that — the sense of, “Oh my god, this is gog to be so challengg” is one of those thgs. But also ’s nice when the ski open and the rays of sunlight show you your path. I’ve been dog this twenty years now and I’ve only had that moment a few tim.</p><p><strong>One last qutn. As part of my job, I n drop-s for LGBTQ+ youth and we are obssed wh Oreos. Some of are at Simon-level obssn. What is your favoure kd of Oreo?</strong></p><p><strong>Keiynan:</strong> For me, ’s the double-stuffed Oreos. I get que offend if someone buys me regular Oreos. I’m jt like, “Come on, you know me!”</p><p><strong>Greg:</strong> I’m a regular Oreo person! But I have to eat them a certa way. I’m a father now and I still open up the Oreo and eat the si and then I eat the rt. So ’s more about the procs of the eatg of the Oreo that is unique for me. But I’ll take any Oreo.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><em>This terview has been nnsed and eded for clary.</em></p><p><em><a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Estl McPhee</a> is a wrer and llective anizer on Mqueam, Squamish, and Tsleil-Wtuth land Vanuver. 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