For LGBT history month gut blogger Prof Lloyd Llewellyn-Jon (Chair of Ancient History, Cardiff Universy) asks: 'Alexanr the Great or Alexanr the Gay?' before his talk this week.
Contents:
- ALEXANR THE GREAT OR ALEXANR THE GAY?
- 19 - ALEXANR THE GAY AND THE GLORYHOLE THAT WAS GREECE
- ALEXANR THE GREAT’S GAY LOVERS
- WAS ALEXANR THE GREAT GAY? THE ACTUAL ANSWER
- ALEXANR THE GAY? A GREAT BATTLE IS UNFOLDG HOLLYWOOD BETWEEN RIVAL VERSNS OF THE LIFE OF GREEK NQUEROR ALEXANR THE GREAT--AND WHETHER EHER WILL PICT HIS GAY LOV. (FILM).
- GAY SEX SCENE AXED FROM ALEXANR OCTOBER 3, 2004 RODNEY 135 COMMENTSTHERE’S BEEN A BUNCH OF DISCSN ON THE MOVIE BLOG ABOUT THE SEXUAL ORIENTATN OF ALEXANR THE GREAT, NONE OF WHICH I WILL GO TO NOW. BUT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG WIGS OVER AT WARNER BROS. HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVG SOME HEATED TALKS ABOUT AS WELL. DIGAL SPY GIV THIS:EXECS AT MOVIE STUD WARNER BROS. APPARENTLY BELIEVE THAT THE SCENE, WHICH SE FARRELL – WHO PLAYS BISEXUAL WARRR ALEXANR THE GREAT – ROMPG WH FRANCIS BOSCH (BAGOAS, A PERSIAN NUCH) WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO TAKE.“ALEXANR WAS ALMOST CERTALY BISEXUAL, AND OLIVER STONE WANTED TO PORTRAY THAT,” A SOURCE TOLD THE NEWS . “SO THERE ARE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND WOMEN, BUT THERE’S ALSO SOME PASSNATE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND FRANCIS BOSCH. “SOME OF THE SUS AT WARNER BROS. THK THAT THE MOVIE-GOG PUBLIC JT ISN’T READY TO SEE THAT. THERE’S SOME PRETTY HEATED ARGUMENTS GOG ON OVER .”OK, AS MUCH AS I’D HATE TO ADM , I THK THE EXEC’S AT WARNER PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE AXG THE SCENE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE GENERAL MOVIE GOG DIENCE JT ISN’T READY FOR THAT KD OF THG A MAJOR HOLLYWOOD RELEASE, AND AFTER ALL, THIS IS A BS. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR PANY, AND THEY WILL MAKE CISNS BASED ON WHAT WILL HELP THEM MAKE THE MOST MONEY… WHO WOULDN’T? THIS ISN’T A MORAL ISSUE. THE MOMENT MOVIE EXECUTIV BELIEVE GAY SCEN FILMS WILL CREASE BOX OFFICE RETURNS YOU N BET THERE WILL BE A WHOLE LOT OF . FOR NOW, THEY PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE. FEEL EE TO LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS THE MENTS SECTN. COMMENT WH FACEBOOK POSTED UNRNEWS CHATSHARE ON FACEBOOKTWEET ON TWTER ABOUT RODNEY VIEW ALL POSTS BY RODNEY → POST NAVIGATN
ALEXANR THE GREAT OR ALEXANR THE GAY?
* alexander the gay *
Alexanr the Great or Alexanr the Gay? For LGBT history month, gut blogger Prof Lloyd Llewellyn-Jon (Chair of Ancient History, Cardiff Universy) asks: 'Alexanr the Great or Alexanr the Gay?
I thk he probably was gay. It was supposed to say ‘Alexanr the Gay’, but someone translated wrong to ‘Alexanr the Great.
The qutn of Alexanr’s homosexualy, once the prerve of scholars such as Tarn whose termed attempt 1948, ‘to straighten the matter out’ (no pun tend, surely) and close future discsn down, met only wh Badian’s hatchet-job of a dissectn of Tarn’s own pedantic nservatism a later. The sexual revolutn of the 1960s and 1970s stimulated even Classicists to thk new and excg ways, and Alexanr’s sexualy was thrown wi open for bate – classrooms, on gay polil march, popular lerature, magaz, pornography – and the strengtheng gay muni of the liberal wt happily embraced the ancient ler not only as a gay prototype, but as a gay hero. In recent s enthiastic (if flawed) gay-tert webs have been bily appropriatg Alexanr as a role mol for the morn gay man; so much so, ed, that the Cassell’s Queer Compann entry dited to the Macedonian nqueror not that Alexanr is a staple the long list of historil gays that have been ‘claimed ‘om history.
19 - ALEXANR THE GAY AND THE GLORYHOLE THAT WAS GREECE
THE GAY LOVERS OF ALEXANDER III OF MACEDON,known as ‘THE GREAT’Alexanr the Great Note on Alexanr, the movie by Oliver Stone When Oliver Stone was thkg of dog a movie on the life of the legendary son of kg Phillip II of Macedon and queen Olympias, one unexpected obstacle stood his way: the Greek… * alexander the gay *
The talk is not even ncerned wh iologi surroundg ancient exprsns of sexual inty eher, but do look at ntemporary exprsns of the sexual and genred self bee our foc is explorg morn ncepts of homosexual inti which have attached themselv to the figure of Alexanr the Great. Takg as s startg pot this lecture will exame several twenty-first century rpons to ‘Alexanr the Gay’ by people who intify themselv through a range of genrs and sexuali.
For some though, Alexanr is not jt a top ten gay hero, he is the ultimate fantasy whose kiss we ntue to crave.
ALEXANR THE GREAT’S GAY LOVERS
Explore the trigug qutn of whether Alexanr the Great was gay and disver the evince for both sis regardg Alexanr the Great's homosexualy. * alexander the gay *
Summary Wh ntemporary Wtern gay muni, Alexanr the Great is often champned as a hero and an spiratnal figure – the ultimate high-stat homosexual. This chapter explor the var ways which he has been visualised wh the gay muny and s wir – more closeted – muny.
The darker, anti-gay, readg of Alexanr is also explored the ntext of right-wg natnalism and the ary. (1999) Somethg for the Boys: Mil Theater and Gay Culture. (1995) Cassell’s Queer Compann: A Dictnary of Lbian and Gay Life and Culture.
WAS ALEXANR THE GREAT GAY? THE ACTUAL ANSWER
THE GAY LOVERS OF ALEXANDER III OF MACEDON, known as ‘THE GREAT’. A group of homophobic Greek lawyers even threatened to sue Warner Bros. The lawyers, tramplg their own tellectual herage unrfoot, sent a letter to the stud mandg they state the tle creds that the movie was a fictnal surroundg the “gayns” of Alexanr has a precent.
A uple of years prevly, a mob of hundreds of Macedonian Greeks stormed an archeologil symposium after a speaker prented a paper on the homosexualy of Alexanr. Stone’s movie uld have been done much better; he uld have portrayed Alexanr as we know him historilly, gay lovers and all, but Col Farrell was not the bt choice to play Alexanr. When the DVD was released, Stone attempted to salvage the movie by rearrangg the scen and takg out much of the homosexual ntent.
This relatnship rembled morn gay love and beme legendary for ’s passn.
ALEXANR THE GAY? A GREAT BATTLE IS UNFOLDG HOLLYWOOD BETWEEN RIVAL VERSNS OF THE LIFE OF GREEK NQUEROR ALEXANR THE GREAT--AND WHETHER EHER WILL PICT HIS GAY LOV. (FILM).
What may seem normal to some of today, the gay love of one man for another, ancient days was owned upon as a threat to masculy and the stcture of society. Alexanr saw their love as emulatg that heroic love between Achill and Patrocl, another ancient uple that morn gay upl n look to as an example of votn. Edorial Board, World History of Male Love, “Famo Homosexuals”, The Gay Lovers of Alexanr the Great, 2000 <> Jt for the rerd, to any of my Greek rears, always remember this, the greatt man Greek History was a homosexual (ο μεγαλύτερος άνθρωπος στην ελληνική ιστορία ήταν ομοφυλόφιλος), not a perast like many ancient Greeks, but a homosexual who had a male lover of equal age, which ma a huge difference the Ancient Greek World.
It happens to be one of my favore morn gay art piec.
GAY SEX SCENE AXED FROM ALEXANR OCTOBER 3, 2004 RODNEY 135 COMMENTSTHERE’S BEEN A BUNCH OF DISCSN ON THE MOVIE BLOG ABOUT THE SEXUAL ORIENTATN OF ALEXANR THE GREAT, NONE OF WHICH I WILL GO TO NOW. BUT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG WIGS OVER AT WARNER BROS. HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVG SOME HEATED TALKS ABOUT AS WELL. DIGAL SPY GIV THIS:EXECS AT MOVIE STUD WARNER BROS. APPARENTLY BELIEVE THAT THE SCENE, WHICH SE FARRELL – WHO PLAYS BISEXUAL WARRR ALEXANR THE GREAT – ROMPG WH FRANCIS BOSCH (BAGOAS, A PERSIAN NUCH) WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO TAKE.“ALEXANR WAS ALMOST CERTALY BISEXUAL, AND OLIVER STONE WANTED TO PORTRAY THAT,” A SOURCE TOLD THE NEWS . “SO THERE ARE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND WOMEN, BUT THERE’S ALSO SOME PASSNATE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND FRANCIS BOSCH. “SOME OF THE SUS AT WARNER BROS. THK THAT THE MOVIE-GOG PUBLIC JT ISN’T READY TO SEE THAT. THERE’S SOME PRETTY HEATED ARGUMENTS GOG ON OVER .”OK, AS MUCH AS I’D HATE TO ADM , I THK THE EXEC’S AT WARNER PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE AXG THE SCENE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE GENERAL MOVIE GOG DIENCE JT ISN’T READY FOR THAT KD OF THG A MAJOR HOLLYWOOD RELEASE, AND AFTER ALL, THIS IS A BS. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR PANY, AND THEY WILL MAKE CISNS BASED ON WHAT WILL HELP THEM MAKE THE MOST MONEY… WHO WOULDN’T? THIS ISN’T A MORAL ISSUE. THE MOMENT MOVIE EXECUTIV BELIEVE GAY SCEN FILMS WILL CREASE BOX OFFICE RETURNS YOU N BET THERE WILL BE A WHOLE LOT OF . FOR NOW, THEY PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE. FEEL EE TO LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS THE MENTS SECTN. COMMENT WH FACEBOOK POSTED UNRNEWS CHATSHARE ON FACEBOOKTWEET ON TWTER ABOUT RODNEY VIEW ALL POSTS BY RODNEY → POST NAVIGATN
Alexanr the Great’s Relatnships wh MenAlexanr’s relatnship wh HephatnAlexanr’s relatnship wh BagoasAlexanr the Great’s Marriag and ChildrenAlexanr’s Sexual Orientatn Explaed by the Cultural Aspect of GreeksWas Alexanr the Great Gay or Straight? One of the greatt nquerors, Alexanr the Great, has been the foc of nsirable njecture, and the qutn of whether or not he was gay remas one of the most ntent. Alexanr’s close ti wh men like Hephatn and Bagoas have been terpreted by some as proof of his homosexualy, while others have argued that they were merely close panns.
Another mon argument agast Alexanr’s claimed homosexualy is that he was married many tim to different women and had at least one child om them, Alexanr IV. That is why whether Alexanr the Great was gay or not is still an open qutn today.