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In “Grace and Frankie,” Robert and Sol have known that they were gay and have been love for years, but the abily to get legally married prompted them to change their liv s after they might have found acceptance, if not full equaly. 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At first, she thks he’s beg vengeful, exprsg hurt or jealoy or lack of sexual tert a way that she n’t refute. “You n’t stand the fact that I got tenure before you did,” Loreen tells him. Later, at a dner meant to celebrate her acplishment, Tad toasts Loreen, sayg, “You’re everythg to me, and the years have been a gift.” She has to leave the table, bee she’s fally able to absorb the paful tth: Tad’s not lyg, but those thgs don’t mean the same thg to Loreen that they mean to Tad.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">And when Tad go to New York to give Loreen a break, Hannah fds herself stgglg to see her father as any sort of sexual beg. 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Not only do Grace and Frankie lose their hbands, they experience the pa of seeg Robert and Sol so immediately happy together and watchg their children feel prsured to support their fathers for polil reasons.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">The show also has the tenrns to acknowledge that as much as Robert and Sol are beg te to themselv, they’ve had to give somethg up for the privilege. In an episo about a funeral, Robert fds that he miss Grace’s unerrg sense of social propriety. And later, Sol, who enjoys nurturg rol, bsh off Robert after a small earthquake to fort Frankie, who is terrified of them. 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