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The episo, tled “The Wilrns,” ends wh <strong>Elisabeth Moss’s</strong> June gatherg her fellow Handmaids-turned-refuge and, wh the help of her beloved Nick (<strong>Max Mghella</strong>), beatg <strong>Joseph Fienn’s</strong> villa to ath on the wood borr between Gilead and Canada.</p><p class="paywall">It’s as gome and satisfactory a ncln as we uld’ve hoped for om a show that’s bee known for beatg trma relentlsly to our skulls, as if otherwise we’ll fet what trma is. As season four fas out, Moss’s heroe has done what she’s longed to do sce she was first kidnapped and placed the Commanr’s home: put Fred on the wall.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="jsv3e7"></div></div><p class="paywall">Sce 2017, Fienn has ftly played June’s aber wh a slippery untenance that keeps viewers gusg: Will he help June? Will he see the error of his ways and turn on Gilead? But those moments have been fleetg at bt. Mostly, we’ve spised Fred, which ma his mise feel sweet—for the man who played him, as well.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">“I’m que happy to shake off Fred, to tell you the tth,” says Fienn over vio chat om his home Spa. Framed by soft whe curtas, wearg a blue-checked button up wh top two buttons undone, ’s almost possible to fet he’s been playg such a vile character for so long. “He served his time and ’s been a great journey, but there is jt somethg that mak my sk crawl wh Fred. I’m really happy that I’m gettg distance om him.”</p><p class="paywall">I spoke wh Fienn a week before the dramatic season fale buted for a nversatn that went both macro—the parallels between Fred and the misogynistic, power-hungry men who plague real life—and micro, discsg how he felt about Fred’s ath, what was like to film those last scen, and the endg he jt uldn’t see for Fred.</p><p class="paywall"><em><strong>Vany Fair:</strong></em> <strong>How and when did you fd out this would be The Commanr’s end?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p class="paywall"><em>Joseph Fienn:</em> I gus I always knew om the novel that a certa Fred Waterford would variably get his ppance. What I love about the seri, what <strong>Bce</strong> [<strong>Miller</strong>] and the wrers have done wh a book that’s jt over 300 pag, is they’ve managed to explore every nook and cranny of <strong>Margaret Atwood’s</strong> geni. And dog so, they haven’t raced ahead a <em>Game of Thron</em> way and thrown everyone overboard for the sake of satisfyg the dience, though I know that might be tratg—pecially when people want to see Fred and Serena get what they serve.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">So, I knew would happen, but I’m rather glad that they kept him as long as possible bee for the dience, I thk will be a huge reward. If had e sooner, well, dienc would be eply satisfied, but I thk ’s tertg that we’ve gotten to explore this paradox of revenge. Given the length of time June has been executg that need to revenge, to brg closure—the paradox beg that evably don’t brg closure, and fact perpetuat the issue; she be the monster she seeks to stroy—we need that time to see the full parture of the high spirual June to the low, vengeful angel.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Though you knew Fred’s ath was evable, what was your reactn to readg those scen?</strong></p><p class="paywall">I was thrilled that was part of the fale. And I was super psyched not jt for myself, but for the dience, knowg they’ve been so patient. There’s a reward seeg Fred extguished the way he is. I mean, I’m sad to leave all of the wonrful people that I’ve grown to love very much, but I am thrilled at the same time.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Did you do anythg special preparatn for Fred’s fal scen?</strong></p><p class="paywall">In many ways, the past four years have been preparatn. I didn’t really need to psych myself up. What I was really reachg for—and maybe this is too tailed for the answer—but: I don’t thk Fred has bee a different person by any means. But I thk he is forced to take a look at himself through the circumstanc he fds himself , which wouldn’t necsarily have happened if he was Gilead. My favore scene of the whole season is when June viss Fred his cell. It’s a plex one—victim and predator—and I thk there’s a part where Fred do seek fivens, and thks he gets . At the same time, we’ve got to do a scene where June feels jtified to do what she ends up dog. 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grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa dEQjuV body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p class="paywall"><strong>You say he’s gnizant of the pa he’s flicted, but is he really? Earlier the season, Fred tells Ra, “I was never cel to you,” and the fal episo, he tells June that now that he’s gog to be a father, he’s sorry for takg her child away om her. The lack of self-awarens is shockg.</strong></p><p class="paywall">You’re absolutely right. He will perpetrate aga and aga and aga. There’s a sickns there, and for that reason he will never change. You’re right many ways, but my sense is that wh his son, he n get a glimpse of what a man should be and the better part of himself. He will never be that person, but I thk that he has always been gnizant of him. It’s like gog to church and gettg absolved so you n go and s aga.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p class="paywall"><strong>Exactly. Havg or needg or gettg power seems to tmp the Waterfords’ fervent relig beliefs—not that he or Serena would ever adm that to anyone. But they do keep changg their relig narrative to benef themselv, right?</strong></p><p class="paywall">Bang on. That is the whole medatn of the character—the utterly horrific, rrosive effects of power. And sus them this season. When Fred and Serena emerge om their cells to go and listen to June’s ttimony, they’re nonted by fans sayg, ‘Free the Waterfords.’ You scratch your head and thk, ‘How uld there be a fan club for the Waterfords?’ Well, there mt be—Gilead started bee there was a re group of people who believed a lie. It’s an extreme versn of Christiany or of puranil theocracy, and I uld never subscribe to that. But ’s clear there are people who would, or else Gilead wouldn’t be place. We’ve seen through history the theocraci, and where do that base e om? What do that base believe? I thk they believe what they <em>feel</em> is the tth. They <em>feel</em> disenanchised by their own ernments.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>I have read that you haven’t liked to equate Tmp’s polics wh the show, but when we see that fan base the Waterfords have Canada, the parallels to Tmp’s Ameri are pretty hard to ignore.</strong></p><p class="paywall">They are. I mean, I would say y, do draw parallels wh the Tmp admistratn, but don’t sgle out. There are a multu of other sry admistratns all around the world that have been, and will ntue to be, this utnary tale on the agily of a prec mocracy and, this se, womanhood unr patriarchal le. Thk of QAnon; that’s jt a nspiracy and yet had a movement big enough to participate January the 6th. I don’t know if our wrers are clairvoyant or not, but ’s certaly hard to ignore the parallels.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Is there anythg you’re gog to miss about this show?</strong></p><p class="paywall">I will miss everyone that I’ve grown to love—my brothers and sisters on the show. I will miss the extraordary array of talented people, om the mera partment to the actors and directors, the wrers— was a privilege to have been on that journey. The bar was raised, and we all wanted to keep at that level out of rpect for the dience and the prec narrative. And I’ll miss the fun we had. 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target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ cQmBqp summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Wh <em>Matro,</em> Leonard Bernste’s Legacy and Lov Fally H the Big Screen</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY gRtaxp summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH iNSiTG byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd bIbWCO gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Rebec Ford</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw bijeSB ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="m4sr"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs eAuebe"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="yvmouv"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa dEQjuV body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p class="paywall"><strong>That is hard to believe, nsirg the show’s ntent and tone.</strong></p><p class="paywall">The humor behd the horror [<em>lghs</em>]. It’s why I love Lizzie and the whole gang. We had to do a scene at the top of episo 10—’s a flashback at Jezebel’s wh Fred and Ofed/June, and they’re dancg. We did a rehearsal and then we went to shoot the first time. Lizzie suggted that we play “Stayg Alive” and do a whole dis dance and not tell the director, Liz Garb. So, on actn, as everyone was acutely aware of this very horrific, dark, nasty scene, we jt pulled a prank and danced a whole dis. I loved that moment.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p class="paywall"><strong>What about the reverse? Anythg you’re glad to say goodbye to?</strong></p><p class="paywall">I am glad to say goodbye to Fred. Ordarily, the Brish are st Amerin films as the baddi. And that ss que well bee our lonial past is so sperate—maybe ’s a way of shakg off those ghosts. I don’t know. But this se, there is somethg pathetic and pervasive about Fred; there are elements of Fred that live our world, and as a father to two dghters, I don’t necsarily feel particularly proud. I am proud of the work that’s volved, of urse, but I would love to do a character… Oh, hi! [<em>One of Fienn’s dghters walks through the curta behd him and to the terview, then out of .</em>] Here’s one of them as I talk about . [<em>To her</em>] Hi, my love. I was wonrg what that creepy feelg was behd me. [<em>To the mera</em>] Sorry about that. The ont door was locked, she me through the garn.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Not at all. It was perfect timg.</strong></p><p class="paywall"><em>I know.</em> [<em>Lghs</em>]</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Do you thk there was any other way for Fred’s arc to nclu?</strong></p><p class="paywall">Possibly. But my md, I was stnchly agast him beg enlightened. I wanted him to be the face of Gilead. Y, we all have the potential to change, but a regime [like Gilead]—like, thk about Nazi Germany and the horrors that were perpetrated there—there’s a human monster that has to be seen and unrstood. I jt hope that we n unrstand, this se, the horror of misogyny and the pathetis of patriarchy this extreme, and the dangers of theocracy.</p><p class="paywall"><strong>Those last scen wh June—the nversatn Fred’s cell and the murr the woods—those are tly horrific to watch. Anythg else you n tell about filmg them?</strong></p><p class="paywall">There are versns of both those scen that we knew might not make the cut, but there were a few tak where, my md, he’s lookg for fivens, almost borrg on givg her permissn for what she would evably do. I thk there is a part of him that knows he’ll jt go on dog the thg he do, and he needs someone to stop . Whether across that send on mera, I’m not sure sce was four o’clock the morng m five-gree weather, havg been chased by 20 Handmaids all night. 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src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX hXRWeY bric bric--disvery SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Televisn</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM cxlTHI summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-1" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ khUTXM summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">The 23 Bt TV Shows of 2022</div></div></div></a><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SummaryItemDek-CRfsi iUEiRd ijSOpT jDyfzW summary-em__k">From <em>Abbott Elementary</em> to <em>Whe Lot</em> and beyond, the are the shows <em>VF</em> staffers uldn’t stop bgg.</div><div 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SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cNQsbv" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb cPpCwE summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-2" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="The Whe Lot Season 2: All the Easter Eggs You May Have Missed" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX hXRWeY bric bric--disvery SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Hollywood</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM cxlTHI summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-2" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ khUTXM summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed"><em>The Whe Lot</em> Season 2: All the Easter Eggs You May Have Missed</div></div></div></a><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SummaryItemDek-CRfsi iUEiRd ijSOpT jDyfzW summary-em__k">A gui to the hidn referenc this buzzy anthology’s new episos, om first-season llbacks to what <em>exactly</em> is happeng wh Daphne’s traer.</div><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY gRtaxp summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH iNSiTG byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd bIbWCO gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Savannah Walsh</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff fKazuH summary-em summary-em--has-le summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-50-50 summary-em--si-by-si-align-center summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cNQsbv" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb cPpCwE summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-3" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="1923 First Look: Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren Come to Yellowstone" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX hXRWeY bric bric--disvery SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Hollywood</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM cxlTHI summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-3" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ khUTXM summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed"><em>1923</em> First Look: Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren Come to <em>Yellowstone</em></div></div></div></a><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SummaryItemDek-CRfsi iUEiRd ijSOpT jDyfzW summary-em__k">The pair unveil their new seri set at the Dutton ranch a century ago. “The are extraordary people an extraordary time,” Ford says.</div><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY gRtaxp summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH iNSiTG byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd bIbWCO gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Anthony Breznin</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cNQsbv ad ad--read-more"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--read-more" data-no-id="wl6kx"></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff fKazuH 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data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Exclive: Insi the S--tshow That Was the Tmp-Bin Transn</div></div></div></a><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SummaryItemDek-CRfsi iUEiRd ijSOpT jDyfzW summary-em__k">New revelatns about how one Tmp staffer helped prerve the transfer of power—om the forthg book on the Bin Whe Hoe, <em>The Fight of His Life</em>.</div><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY gRtaxp summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH iNSiTG byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd bIbWCO gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Chris 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class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="“Fuck Bin,” “Don’t Tread on Me,” and a Wisns Death Trip for Our Tim" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX hXRWeY bric bric--disvery SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Polics</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM cxlTHI summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-5" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp 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Lus Cikshank -- the viral vio star who played the ultra-hyper "Fred" character a Nickeloon movie and several shows -- has revealed he's gay ... and naturally, he posted his g out vio on YouTube.

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IS COMMANR WSLOW GAY? 'HANDMAID'S TALE' TEAS A NEW ARC FOR THE WATERFORDS

But is Wslow gay?

"Then followg the release of "Hoehold, " Ltlefield opened up about the very real possibily that Commanr Wslow is gay. Addnally, Wslow's overly timate behavr toward Fred Waterford (Joseph Fienn) led many viewers to wonr whether he's gay and powerful enough to not fear reprisal a world where "genr traors" are regularly hanged.

Takg to Redd wh their theori, one er named Foxelette said: “My stant thought was that Commanr is gay and might e his power and fluence to [get] Fred to sleep wh him (sic). ’” While the moment suggts Commanr Wslow uld be a gay or bisexual man, or at the least have some physil attractn to Fred, the actor who plays the lear spoke out about the timacy shared between the two men this scene and said me down to the viewers perceptn. Moreover, seems the Commanr had reached a level of power where strict l of Gilead no longer applied to overly timate behavur towards Fred Waterford (Joseph Fienn) lead many fans to wonr if he is gay, but powerful enough for to be overlooked by a regime that regularly hangs “genr traors” MORE: The Handmaid’s Tale season 4: Why Gilead children wanted to stayThe Handmaid’s Tale season 4: Will Commanr Wslow's secret be exposed?

'FRED' OM NICKELOON -- I'M GAY

Moment suggts Commanr Wslow uld be a gay or bisexual man, or at the least have some physil attractn to Fred, and the actor seems to agree. Beg gay Gilead is a crime punishable by ath, but fans thk Fred would easily break the law to advance his reer.

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class="article-body-ntent article-body standard-body-ntent css-woto36 ewisyje7"><style data-emotn="css lben7e">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;}{float:left;text-transform:upperse;font-weight:bold;marg-right:0.9375rem;marg-bottom:-0.625rem;marg-top:0;}{font-fay:Didot,Didot-fallback,Geia,Tim,serif;font-size:6.25rem;font-weight:normal;le-height:0.9;marg:0.3rem 0.6rem -0.6rem -0.26rem;text-transform:upperse;}@-moz-document url-prefix(){{marg-top:0.625rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:6.25rem;le-height:0.9;}} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="0" class="body-dropp css-lben7e et3p2gv0">One of the most pellg aspects of <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="the third season of The Handmaid's Tale" class="body-lk css-7l5upj et3p2gv0">the third season of <em>The Handmaid's Tale</em></a> is s gradual expansn of Gilead's power stcture beyond s regimented, puranil fa. Christopher Meloni's High Commanr Wslow, first troduced the <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Washgton, D.C.–centric sixth episo" class="body-lk css-7l5upj et3p2gv0">Washgton, D.C.–centric sixth episo</a>, reprents a level of power—and therefore a level of privilege—beyond anythg we've yet to see on the show. It's evint every moment he's on-screen.</p><style data-emotn="css aeyldl">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="1" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Wslow and his wife (Elizabeth Reaser) are troduced alongsi their md-bogglg gaggle of children, who amount to a stat symbol a world where fertily rat are dramatilly dwdlg. Addnally, Wslow's overly timate behavr toward Fred Waterford (Joseph Fienn) led many viewers to wonr whether he's gay and powerful enough to not fear reprisal a world where "genr traors" are regularly hanged. But this week's episo saw Wslow's arrogance st him his life durg a chance sexual enunter wh June (<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Elisabeth Moss" class="body-lk css-7l5upj et3p2gv0">Elisabeth Moss</a>) at Jezebel's. </p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="2" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css 1643r8a">{borr:none;marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;paddg:0rem;}</style><asi class="css-1643r8a e6pr2lz5"><style data-emotn="css 16mdlvs">{display:block;font-weight:600;marg:1.875rem 0 1.25rem;text-align:center;font-fay:HarmoniaSans,Helveti,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:0.75rem;le-height:1.4;letter-spacg:0.125rem;text-transform:upperse;}</style><h6 class="css-16mdlvs e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 8lle59">{max-width:lc(100% - 120px - .625rem);}</style><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Story</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><style data-emotn="css c4s2gi">{paddg:0rem;marg:0rem;list-style:none;}</style><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><style data-emotn="css fo21cq">{borr-left:0.15rem solid black;borr-right:0.15rem solid black;lor:#242424;font-fay:HarmoniaSans,Helveti,Arial,Sans-serif;font-weight:300;paddg-left:0.9375rem;paddg-right:0.9375rem;paddg-top:1.25rem;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.875rem;le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.25rem;le-height:1.2;}}{borr-top:0.15rem solid black;paddg-top:0.8125rem;}{borr-bottom:0.15rem solid black;paddg-bottom:0.8125rem;} a{borr-bottom:0;paddg-bottom:0;}(:first-child){paddg-top:0.3125rem;} a{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;lor:her;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;borr-bottom:th solid #E8E8E8;paddg-bottom:0.3125rem;} a:hover{lor:#595959;-webk-transn:lor 0.3s ease--out;transn:lor 0.3s ease--out;}</style><li class="css-fo21cq e6pr2lz2"><style data-emotn="css 1bn7a5e">{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-directn:row;-ms-flex-directn:row;flex-directn:row;-webk-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webk-jtify-ntent:flex-start;jtify-ntent:flex-start;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;}</style><a href="/culture/film-tv/a28512962/the-handmaids-tale-season-4-news-date-st-spoilers/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="'The Handmaid's Tale' Season 4 Is Happeng" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 1l0u1">{marg-right:0.625rem;height:to;}</style><img src="" alt="hulu" tle="'The Handmaid's Tale' Season 4 Is Happeng" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">'The Handmaid's Tale' Season 4 Is Happeng</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><p data-no-id="3" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Last week's episo saw June unselg Commanr Lawrence (<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Bradley Whford" class="body-lk css-7l5upj et3p2gv0">Bradley Whford</a>) through the Ceremony by teachg him her pg mechanisms: "Treat like a job." This week, she fally reach her breakg pot. When Wslow tri to rape her a private room at Jezebel's, she stabs him to ath wh his own pen. A sympathetic hoekeeper aids her flight om the club, and a group of Marthas clean up the murr scene and cerate Wslow's body, makg his ath like a disappearance. It's a eply thartic moment that also reprents a profound shift June, who's now taken a life for the first time.</p><p data-no-id="5" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Meloni sat down wh <em> </em>to discs the ambiguy around Wslow's sexualy, how he differs om every other manr we've seen on the show, and his "satisfyg" mise at June's hands.</p><style data-emotn="css 1e35siy">{font-fay:HarmoniaSans,Helveti,Arial,Sans-serif;font-weight:300;marg-bottom:0.625rem;marg-top:0.625rem;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.25rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.25rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.25rem;le-height:1.3;}} b, strong{font-fay:her;font-weight:bold;} em, i{font-fay:her;font-style:alic;}</style><h2 data-no-id="6" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">What did you know about Commanr Wslow when the role first me to you?</h2><p data-no-id="7" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">I knew nothg! All I knew was that he was gog to be a power player, as all manrs are, but even more of a power player bee his power emanat om the feral source Washgton, D.C. I figured that he's a goal for Waterford to be climbg toward, a reprentatn of a greater power outsi of what the characters have been livg, and what the dience has been troduced to. But the most tellg thg I knew was that Wslow has got five kids.</p><h2 data-no-id="8" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">That first scene, where the Wslows are troduced followed by all of their children, is pretty breathtakg.</h2><p data-no-id="9" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">It tells you a lot. In a society where one of the ma sourc—if not <em>the</em> ma source—of value and social stat is fact children, here's a guy who's like the morn-day billnaire who llects piec of art. He's the guy who hoards the gold. He n't have enough of whatever the currency is, whatever the thg is that giv you stat. 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You may be able to fd the same ntent another format, or you may be able to fd more rmatn, at their web se.</div><div data-embed="poll" data-no-id="11" class="embed css-0 ektkw391"><style data-emotn="css 1d3w5wq">{width:100%;}</style><div height="150" class="css-1d3w5wq ektkw390"></div><style data-emotn="css vaxtlc">{borr:none;overflow:hidn;}</style><iame id="poll-3886ab65-5114-4e0b-ba1b-a0fefbb7451e_ea845f92f96" tle="Poll ntent" height="150" width="100%" aria-hidn="te" data-src=" class="poll lazyload css-vaxtlc ektkw392"></iame></div><style data-emotn="css 11h5wc1">{borr:0;borr-bottom:0.15rem solid black;marg:1.875rem 0;clear:both;}</style><hr data-no-id="12" class="css-11h5wc1 et3p2gv0" /><h2 data-no-id="13" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">Wslow’s ambiguo sexualy has been a big subject of discsn among fans. Are we meant to be readg somethg erotic to his teractns wh Fred?</h2><p data-no-id="14" class="body-text css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">[<em>Lghs.</em>] Whether you want to ll Easter eggs or bread cmbs, I jt thought there was somethg to play there. The actn [ the script] is jt, <em>I put my hand on Waterford</em>. And I thought, This is a man of great appete, and there’s also a sense that this is how thgs work when you have absolute power. Thgs are not what they seem to be, and there is a rptn and a perversn of norms. I'm not sayg that to be bisexual is a perversn, of urse, but that this person is not thentic. You're proppg yourself up to be one thg, and the tth is that you are somethg else. That was an tertg dualy to get to wh ’ve seen Waterford the posn of power so often that 's tertg to see the tabl turned, where he was ma to feel pursued and unfortable.Exactly, and sudnly he's the posn of havg to qutn, "How far are you willg to go now, to get what you want? You've wield your power to subjugate others, but how do you react to beg subjugated?" When I read that le the script, that I put my hand on Waterford, I thought tied to somethg about Wslow that was really clear all the actn l. When the children all e and I allow them to climb all over me, we're purposefully showg that I'm a different kd of guy. Every other manr that I've seen on the show is very uptight, very lear, kd of always lookg over his shoulr: "Am I dog this right? Am I pretendg the right way? Am I dog this by the book, the Gilead way?" And all of a sudn, you have this guy who uldn't give a sh about any of that stuff, bee there's no need to. My power is assured. It's as though I'm the fal arber of what Gilead is and how the muckety-mucks are allowed to behave and exprs themselv.</p><h2 data-no-id="15" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">Commanr Lawrence has a le Episo 10 about how "there are always exceptns that n be ma" for manrs. The fact that Jezebel's exists jt rerc that.</h2><p data-no-id="16" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah, and Wslow wh his ease and his abily to be physil and touch people, there's a sense that I n basilly get anythg I want. I n have anythg I want, anytime I want, a way that's not te for other manrs we've seen.</p><h2 data-no-id="17" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">Which mak credibly satisfyg when June butchers him! Did you know your arc was gog to be this short?</h2><p data-no-id="18" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">[<em>Lghs.</em>] I didn't know that exactly, but I knew I wasn't redirectg the ship! I liken to when I did <em>Te Blood</em>—I knew my days were numbered. They troduce you as kd of a provotive character, a character who's gog to make somewhat of a splash, and then part of that shock would then be to get rid of him. And that's satisfyg, hopefully.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="19" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Outerwear, Event, Tourism, " tle="Outerwear, Event, Tourism, " loadg="lazy" width="5583" height="3722" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><div class="css-1rxkap1 e1xqj1sx1">Meloni (left) and Fienn <em>The Handmaid’s Tale</em> Season 3.</div><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-19ay7pj e6iqd2">Hulu/Sophie Gird</span></figptn></div></div></div><hr data-no-id="20" class="css-11h5wc1 et3p2gv0" /><h2 data-no-id="21" class="body-h4 css-1e35siy et3p2gv0">It's fely satisfyg, pecially bee 's such a turng pot for June. 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