Pengu & Riddler: DC's Bt Gay Relatnship

Contents:

• ON ‘GOTHAM,’ PENGU IS GAY AND LOV RIDDLER; HERE ARE 4 ROADS TO ROMANCE OR CRIMAL BREAKUP
• GAY PENGUS IN ‘GOTHAM’: FOX’S SUPERHERO SHOW FALLY GETS QUEER RIGHT
• GOTHAM STAR SHUTS DOWN THOSE WHO COMPLA A GAY PENGU IS NOT ‘CANON’
• WH PENGU & RIDDLER, GOTHAM GAVE US DC'S BT GAY RELATNSHIP
• ROB LORD TAYLOR: COMPLATS ABOUT GAY PENGU ON "GOTHAM" ARE "A BUNCH OF HORSH*T""WHAT YOU'RE SAYG IS, 'I'M HOMOPHOBIC AND I AM AAID OF GAY PEOPLE.'"{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY ADAM SALANDRANOVEMBER 15, 2016/11:23 AMBY ADAM SALANDRANOVEMBER 15, 2016 / 11:23 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"ROB LORD TAYLOR: COMPLATS ABOUT GAY PENGU ON \"GOTHAM\" ARE \"A BUNCH OF HORSH*T\"","DATEPUBLISHED":"2016-11-15T16:23:37.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2016-11-15T16:23:37.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"ADAM SALANDRA","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT EVERYONE IS A FAN OF GOTHAM'S GAY TWIST THIS SEASON, WHICH FDS PENGU FALLG LOVE WH EDWARD NYGMA. BUT OUT ACTOR ROB LORD TAYLOR, WHO PLAYS THE PENGU, HAS NO TIME FOR THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"THAT'S A BUNCH OF HORSH," THE ACTOR SAID OF CRICS WHO CLAIM TO "HAVE NO PROBLEM WH HIM BEG GAY," BUT GROE THAT THE SHOW SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED IC-BOOK NTUY TO MAKE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"YOU N'T SAY THAT TO ME IF YOU ALSO DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF NSTERNATN ABOUT [THE] BATMAN [MOVIE OM 1989], WHERE THE JOKER KILLED BATMAN'S PARENTS," HE TOLD THE DIENCE AT THE RHO ISLAND COMIC CON. "THAT'S A TOTAL PARTURE OM THE NON CHARACTERS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TAYLOR ADD THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO MD THAT GOTHAM'S BCE WAYNE AND SELENA KYLE (A.K.A. CATWOMAN) KNOW EACH OTHER AS CHILDREN, ANOTHER PARTURE OM THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"WHAT YOU ARE SAYG TO ME IS, 'I AM HOMOPHOBIC AND I AM AAID OF GAY PEOPLE AND QUEER PEOPLE.'"{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TAYLOR SAYS HE'S NOT EVEN SURE PENGU IS ACTUALLY GAY, BUT MAY HAVE JT BEEN SO SPERATE FOR LOVE THAT HE ATTACHED FEELGS TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO WAS ACTUALLY NICE TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}“I TLY BELIEVE THAT HAD BEEN BARBARA OR TABHA OR BUTCH—REGARDLS OF IF THEY WERE MALE OR FEMALE—HE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT SAME SORT OF OBSSN,” HE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;POSN:RELATIVE;PADDG-BOTTOM:56.49999999999999%;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;POSN:ABSOLUTE;HEIGHT:100% !IMPORTANT;WIDTH:100% !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}H/T: LGBTQ {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
• GOTHAM STAR CALLS CRICS OF GAY PENGU STORYLE HOMOPHOB
• GOTHAM'S PENGU HS OUT AT "HOMOPHOBIC" CRICS OF THE CHARACTER'S GAY STORYLE
• IS ‘GOTHAM’ GOG GAY? A PENGU/RIDDLER ROMANCE MAY BE ON THE WAY

ON ‘GOTHAM,’ PENGU IS GAY AND LOV RIDDLER; HERE ARE 4 ROADS TO ROMANCE OR CRIMAL BREAKUP

Did you know “Gotham” character Oswald Cobblepot (aka Pengu) is gay? Nygma wasn’t too keen on this ia, not bee he’s homophobic but bee nfirmed his spicn that Pengu had killed his love tert (Pengu’s thkg: Get rid of the girl and Riddler’s all me).

Furthermore, you thk Gotham wrers are shakg up televisn (and ic books) by announcg Pengu is gay?

GAY PENGUS IN ‘GOTHAM’: FOX’S SUPERHERO SHOW FALLY GETS QUEER RIGHT

It turned s gay subtext to straight-up text. Hypg up potentially gay stori that never e to un is a dispirgly equent piece of pop fictn’s morn landspe, after all.

In fact, the Pengu’s g out isn’t jt an overdue tone for the character, ’s a rehg turn for the Dark Knight’s long, plited relatnship wh the gay muny. Publisher DC Comics dodged an early attack on their rpectabily when 1954 fear-mongerg psychiatrist Fredric Wertham ma the supposedly gay subtext of Batman and Rob’s partnership Exhib B his qut to kill the ics dtry. But spe s nstant flirtatn wh queer inty, Batman’s world took forever to liver real gay characters – even by ic book standards.

Meanwhile, acclaimed wrer Greg Rucka did his bt to clu gay hero his Batbooks, but out tective Renee Montoya always seems to disappear whenever Rucka tak leave om the publisher, and his highly publicized reventn of Batwoman received equent cricism for beg a “lipstick lbian” – offerg a stereotyped portrayal of the male rearship’s expectatn for a gay woman as much as real reprentatn for the gay muny.

GOTHAM STAR SHUTS DOWN THOSE WHO COMPLA A GAY PENGU IS NOT ‘CANON’

The one mon thread all the gay supportg players the Batman i? The clost the anchise has ever e is the way Joker tnts Batman as “Darlg” Frank Miller’s legendary but often hyper-macho The Dark Knight Returns – a move meant to highlight the homophobic fears of Batman’s mostly male rearship.

WH PENGU & RIDDLER, GOTHAM GAVE US DC'S BT GAY RELATNSHIP

And while hero wh a veneer of queer dg like Star Wars’ Poe Dameron and Capta Ameri’s Bucky Barn blow up Tumblr on a daily basis, ’s odd that Pengu’s obv nature never spired such lls for gay fn.

So homophobic fans better get ed to . And after seven s whout an openly gay man Batman’s world, ’s far past time that this reveal took hold the ics forever.

ROB LORD TAYLOR: COMPLATS ABOUT GAY PENGU ON "GOTHAM" ARE "A BUNCH OF HORSH*T""WHAT YOU'RE SAYG IS, 'I'M HOMOPHOBIC AND I AM AAID OF GAY PEOPLE.'"{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY ADAM SALANDRANOVEMBER 15, 2016/11:23 AMBY ADAM SALANDRANOVEMBER 15, 2016 / 11:23 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"ROB LORD TAYLOR: COMPLATS ABOUT GAY PENGU ON \"GOTHAM\" ARE \"A BUNCH OF HORSH*T\"","DATEPUBLISHED":"2016-11-15T16:23:37.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2016-11-15T16:23:37.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"ADAM SALANDRA","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT EVERYONE IS A FAN OF GOTHAM'S GAY TWIST THIS SEASON, WHICH FDS PENGU FALLG LOVE WH EDWARD NYGMA. BUT OUT ACTOR ROB LORD TAYLOR, WHO PLAYS THE PENGU, HAS NO TIME FOR THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"THAT'S A BUNCH OF HORSH," THE ACTOR SAID OF CRICS WHO CLAIM TO "HAVE NO PROBLEM WH HIM BEG GAY," BUT GROE THAT THE SHOW SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED IC-BOOK NTUY TO MAKE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"YOU N'T SAY THAT TO ME IF YOU ALSO DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF NSTERNATN ABOUT [THE] BATMAN [MOVIE OM 1989], WHERE THE JOKER KILLED BATMAN'S PARENTS," HE TOLD THE DIENCE AT THE RHO ISLAND COMIC CON. "THAT'S A TOTAL PARTURE OM THE NON CHARACTERS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TAYLOR ADD THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO MD THAT GOTHAM'S BCE WAYNE AND SELENA KYLE (A.K.A. CATWOMAN) KNOW EACH OTHER AS CHILDREN, ANOTHER PARTURE OM THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"WHAT YOU ARE SAYG TO ME IS, 'I AM HOMOPHOBIC AND I AM AAID OF GAY PEOPLE AND QUEER PEOPLE.'"{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TAYLOR SAYS HE'S NOT EVEN SURE PENGU IS ACTUALLY GAY, BUT MAY HAVE JT BEEN SO SPERATE FOR LOVE THAT HE ATTACHED FEELGS TO THE FIRST PERSON WHO WAS ACTUALLY NICE TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}“I TLY BELIEVE THAT HAD BEEN BARBARA OR TABHA OR BUTCH—REGARDLS OF IF THEY WERE MALE OR FEMALE—HE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT SAME SORT OF OBSSN,” HE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;POSN:RELATIVE;PADDG-BOTTOM:56.49999999999999%;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;POSN:ABSOLUTE;HEIGHT:100% !IMPORTANT;WIDTH:100% !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}H/T: LGBTQ {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

One group was appalled that Gotham would ter om Batman non so abptly by makg Pengu "gay" (this spe the fact that Gotham has never had a strict adherence to non). It means that Pengu may not intify as a 0 on the Ksey sle, the soclogil ia proposed by Aled Ksey 1948 that humans aren't strictly heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual, but land somewhere on a sle between heterosexual (0) and homosexual (7).

But Pengu's number is not necsarily enough to label him as all-out gay.

Labelg Pengu as gay, or even bisexual, and rootg for this uple assum that they are a normal LGBT relatnship, and they aren't at all. Ten years ago, when you uld unt the number of gay TV characters seri regular rol on one hand, was cril that those characters be fully flhed out and not rerce stereotyp to the mastream dience at home.

GOTHAM STAR CALLS CRICS OF GAY PENGU STORYLE HOMOPHOB

), but the amount of gay, lbian, bisexual or qutng characters on TV wh varyg backgrounds giv Gotham some leeway to not pict a perfect, all-enpassg gay relatnship between Pengu and Nygma. Rob Lord Taylor is upset bee people have been angry about The Pengu possibly beg gay – and moro that a male character might be reprented as gay – as opposed to other character tras or issu wh the show.

GOTHAM'S PENGU HS OUT AT "HOMOPHOBIC" CRICS OF THE CHARACTER'S GAY STORYLE

As soon as he outed himself as a happily married man that loved another man, he was lashed out agast wh homophobic ments by so-lled fans of Batman – spe the fact that Batman would be agast such thgs and is obvly ol wh someone beg gay, as his Batwoman is gay, for example. People seem to have taken issue wh Taylor himself beg gay and that a male character might be gay, even though Taylor has th stated that The Pengu isn’t necsarily gay, or even bisexual, or even pansexual, or asexual, or hetrosexual – at this pot any “love” is an obssn for The Pengu. Aga, before the storyle has fished people have bee up arms that a male Batman character might be gay, but when that issue is nonted, shifts to the ia that Pengu might have any kd of relatnship wh a man, even if ’s not romantic nature.

A man havg sex wh a man, by the way, do not mean someone is gay. As for the other posters, qu blamg Taylor for seedg hatred when there has been documented hatred/ prejudice/ fear agast him when he me out and this whole “Pengugayte” is based on that and not ratnal evince regardg *this* versn of the character and chang the TV seri as a whole.

Wh Pengu & Riddler, Gotham Gave Us DC's Bt Gay Relatnship. By stg Pengu and the Riddler as a romantic pairg, Fox's Gotham has given the bt superhero (OK, supervilla) gay relatnship, ever. Can you thk of any show that would take a character who is straight the ics, wh the same level of name regnn as the Pengu, and turn him gay?

IS ‘GOTHAM’ GOG GAY? A PENGU/RIDDLER ROMANCE MAY BE ON THE WAY

In fact, this relatnship might very well be DC’s bt gay relatnship, ever. The relatnship has s issu, y, but ’s never prented as a “gay relatnship” jt...