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SCREW MAKG NICE: THE CHICKS ARE READY FOR CHANGE"REVOLUTNS DON’T HAPPEN BEE EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND HUNKY-DORY."BY SAM MANZELLAJULY 24, 2020/10:59 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:5348PX;WIDTH:8022PX;}COURTY OF SONYBY SAM MANZELLAJULY 24, 2020 / 10:59 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"SCREW MAKG NICE: THE CHICKS ARE READY FOR CHANGE","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2020-07-24T14:59:06.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2020-07-24T14:59:06.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"SAM MANZELLA"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF THERE'S A SGLE MOMENT THAT ENARED THE (FORMERLY DIXIE) CHICKS TO THEIR GAY FANS, WOULD BE LEAD SGER NATALIE MAE'S CRICISM OF PRINT GEE W. BH AT A LONDON SHOW 2003. "THE NTROVERSY," AS MA REFERS TO 17 YEARS LATER, LAND THE CHICKS ON AN DTRY BLACKLIST. IT ALSO SOLIDIFIED THEIR QUEER FANS' {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"THERE WAS SORT OF A SHARED 'WE KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GOG THROUGH' WH BEG SUPPRSED OR HATED," MA TELLS ME OVER A ZOOM LL WH HER BANDMAT MARTIE MAGUIRE AND EY STRAYER. "AND THEY WATCHED STAND UP TO THAT, PECIALLY WH [2006'S] 'NOT READY TO MAKE NICE.' THERE’S ALWAYS BEEN A NNECTN WH OUR GAY FANS THAT WAY—HAVG TO OVERE AND STAY HAPPY AND FUN, AND NOT LET BEAT YOU DOWN."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEIR THEATRIL, FASHN-FORWARD LOOKS HELPED TOO, SHE ADDS, TO AFFIRMATIVE LGHS OM MAGUIRE AND STRAYER: "I’VE ASKED MY GAY IENDS LIKE, 'WHY HAS THE GAY MUNY ALWAYS BEEN SUCH FANS?' AND MY BT IEND DEAN, WHO IS GAY, WAS LIKE, 'BEE YOU WORE EVERY FAD, ALL AT ONCE!'"{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;POSN:RELATIVE;PADDG-BOTTOM:75%;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;POSN:ABSOLUTE;HEIGHT:100% !IMPORTANT;WIDTH:100% !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}A LOT HAS CHANGED THE UNTRY-POP WORLD SCE THE "NOT READY TO MAKE NICE" DAYS, BUT THE CHICKS' UNAPOLOGETIC STICK-TO-THE-MAN ATTU HAS NOT. IN 2020, THE MIC DTRY VETS NIXED THE "DIXIE" AND RELEASED THEIR FIRST NEW ALBUM AS A GROUP 14 YEARS, SHEDDG TWO THGS THEY'D OUTGROWN: A NAME WH CONFERACY-ERA NNOTATNS AND THEIR NTRACT WH A RERD LABEL THAT HAD BURNED THEM THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE RULT, THE JACK ANTONOFF-PRODUCED GASLIGHTER, IS ONE OF THE MOST HIVE RERDS THEIR S-LONG DISGRAPHY. IT'S ALSO ONE OF THEIR ANGRIT. TRACKS LIKE "SLEEP AT NIGHT" AND "TIGHTS ON MY BOAT" MAKE UNSUBTLE JABS AT MA' CHEATG EX-HBAND ("YOU N TELL THE GIRL WHO LEFT HER TIGHTS ON MY BOAT / THAT SHE N HAVE YOU NOW"). "MARCH MARCH," WH S ARY IMAGERY AND HNTG STRG SECTNS, IS AS MUCH AS SELF-EMPOWERMENT ANTHEM AS IS A LL-TO-ACTN FOR THE TMP {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"GASLIGHTER FELY TOUCH ON BEG A DIVORCE ALBUM," STRAYER SAYS. "AND WHEN YOU’RE GOG THROUGH THAT, YOU GO THROUGH EVERY EMOTN. BUT RAGE N BE REALLY POWERFUL TO GET YOU TO THE NEXT STEP."THE CHICKS/{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BENEATH ALL THAT ANGER, SOMETHG ELSE SIMMERS BELOW GASLIGHTER'S SURFACE: HOPE. IN JUXTAPOSN TO THE SONG'S IMPASSNED LYRICS, THE MIC VIO FOR "SLEEP AT NIGHT" SHOWS MA, MAGUIRE, AND STRAYER LERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY UPLIFTG EACH OTHER. "JULIANNA CALM DOWN," AN SPIRG BALLAD TOWARD THE END OF THE RERD, NAME-CHECKS THE CHICKS' DGHTERS, NIEC, AND OTHER FEMALE LOVED ON WHILE ENURAGG THEM TO "BREATHE / IT'LL BE OKAY."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF RAGE IS THE CHICKS' FUEL, THEN HOPE—FOR A "TEXAS MAN" WH PATIENT HANDS, FOR TMP TO GET VOTED OUT OF OFFICE NOVEMBER, FOR A WORLD WHOUT RACISM AND POLICE BTALY—IS THEIR END GOAL. AND MIC, MAGUIRE SAYS, IS THEIR VEHICLE: "EVERYONE’S TALKG, SO HOW DO YOU BREAK THROUGH THE NOISE AND GET TO THE HEART OF CHANGE? BEG MIL ARTISTS, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOT ONLY A RPONSIBILY BUT A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO EXPRS THAT RAGE OR ANGER MIC."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND E THEIR PLATFORM, THEY HAVE. IN 2020, LOOKG BACK ON "THE NTROVERSY" THAT GOT THE CHICKS #NCELED IS LGHABLE GIVEN THE CURRENT PRINT'S ALMOST DAILY TIRAS ON TWTER. WOULD HER CRICISM OF BH HAVE BEEN RECEIVED DIFFERENTLY IF MA WERE A MAN, OR IF SHE'D VOICED ON HER "HOME SOIL" STEAD OF ONSTAGE LONDON? MA HAS NO FUCKG CLUE. IS THERE ANY POT EVEN GOG DOWN THAT RABB HOLE? BY VOLLY NOUNCG AN JTICE, THE CHICKS STAYED TE TO THEMSELV—AND SPIRED UNTRY-POP ARTISTS TO E, CLUDG THEIR IEND AND LLABORATOR TAYLOR SWIFT, WHO C THE CHICKS AMONG HER PERSONAL {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;POSN:RELATIVE;PADDG-BOTTOM:56.49999999999999%;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;POSN:ABSOLUTE;HEIGHT:100% !IMPORTANT;WIDTH:100% !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE THEY NO LONGER NSIR THEMSELV PART OF THE UNTRY MIC WORLD AFTER "THE NTROVERSY," THE CHICKS HAVE WATCHED FEMALE AND LGBTQ UNTRY ARTISTS PROSPER SCE '03. MA REMEMBERS KNOWG WHICH ARTISTS WERE GAY WHEN THEY WERE G UP THE DTRY ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. "A UPLE WERE OPEN TO , BUT WE KNEW WAS A SECRET," SHE RELLS. "THEY ULDN’T BE OUT. SO I DO THK WE’RE SEEG THAT THAT HAS CHANGED. WE’RE SEEG THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL ABLE TO E OUT AND HAVE A REER AND BE ACCEPTED."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}STRAYER POTS TO BRANDI CARLILE, AN ACCLAIMED UNTRY ARTIST SHE'S ALWAYS LOVED WHO HAPPENS TO BE A LBIAN. "WHEN SHE GOT HER ’S BEEN DOG THE WORK FOR A LONG TIME," SHE SAYS. "TO SEE HER GET REGNIZED IS AWOME."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WORK ISN'T OVER YET. THE STAK FOR MARGALIZED AMERINS—CLUDG WOMEN, BLACK PEOPLE, AND THE LGBTQ MUNY—ARE HIGHER THAN EVER, AND THE GROUP FEELS A MORAL IMPERATIVE TO SPEAK OUT AGAST HATE OR JTICE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE? INSTEAD OF BEG SHUNNED FOR SPEAKG OUT, THE CHICKS ARE BEG CELEBRATED. "IT FEELS GOOD," THE TR AGRE, ALTHOUGH THEY CERTALY AREN'T READY TO MAKE NICE TMP'S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"RAGE OVER GEE FLOYD IS WHAT HAS LED TO ALL THIS CHANGE, AND ’S AWOME," MA SAYS. "IT’S WHAT LEADS TO ALL REVOLUTNS, RIGHT? REVOLUTNS DON’T HAPPEN BEE EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND HUNKY-DORY. RAGE N BE VERY POWERFUL WHEN ED FOR GOOD AND WHEN ED FOR BAD. BUT YEAH, I THK WE’RE SEEG ED FOR GOOD."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}GASLIGHTER IS OUT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

Durg our Zoom ssn, Ma discsed the post-ntroversy era of their reer as the moment she noticed a major show of support om the LGBTQ muny, the queer creators who nurtured the new album’s vibe, and the gays she’d party wh on her boat. ” Tell me what led you down that road – a road so many gay men themselv have gone down. One of the thgs he said was, “Have more om gay Pri march.

But growg up Lubbock, Texas, I n thk of people that I knew who were probably gay, but they weren’t out yet. – but back the ’90s high school, I n’t even thk of somebody who was out-there gay.

You know, I’ve asked some of our gay fans, “What is that has drawn gay people to ? Before that, what my iends have told me was what gay fans liked was the over-the-top sort of Spice Girls fashn.

THE DIXIE CHICKS' NATALIE MA IS TOTALLY GAY FOR RACHEL MADDOWBY DAN AVERYMAY 15, 2013/7:29 AMBY DAN AVERYMAY 15, 2013 / 7:29 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"THE DIXIE CHICKS' NATALIE MA IS TOTALLY GAY FOR RACHEL MADDOW","DATEPUBLISHED":"2013-05-15T11:29:41.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2013-05-15T11:29:41.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}HAS THE DIXIE CHICKS' NATALIE MA EVER DGED YOUR GAYDAR? WELL, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NOT ENTIRELY OFF BASE: THE SGER TOLD PRISOURCE SHE WOULD SWCH TEAMS FOR RACHEL MADDOW. "SHE WOULD BE MY LBIAN GIRL CSH," SHE REVEALED. "SHE'S HOT! AND SHE'S SMART AND BETIFUL ... AND I LIKE HER HAIR."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MA JOK THEY'D BE GREAT TOGETHER BUT "I DON'T KNOW IF MY HBAND OR HER GIRLIEND WOULD THK SO."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE 38-YEAR-OLD SGER, WHO IS PROMOTG HER BUT SOLO ALBUM, MOTHER, TOLD USA TODAY LAST WEEK THAT ""I'M PRO-GAY MARRIAGE. PRO-GAY EVERYTHG."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND WE'RE PRO-NATALIE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

” But I thk I’m more of a gay guy on the si. For a straight woman who prents as a gay man? Gay Twter is obssed wh your boat, referenced on “Gaslighter” and then, of urse, “Tights on My Boat.

I’m gonna go wh Andy Cohen, Howard Stern’s top gay. In our recent chat, Ma revealed why she went rock (untry “seemed so fake”), how beg disowned–and her new short hair – ma her feel closer to the gay muny and whether now, a after her Bh outburst, she’s ready to make nice.

NATALIE MA: THE GAY TERVIEW

You’ve always had a really loyal gay fan base, even before you publicly chastised Gee W. How do you expla your nnectn wh gay fans? We had some very stume-y, over-the-top looks that the gays do appreciate.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* THE CHICKS GAY

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