A major revisn of the Tony Award-wng mil “Company” would make the central character, Bobby, a gay man.
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- DO BOBBY NEED TO BE OPENLY GAY STEPHEN SONDHEIM’S REVISED ‘COMPANY’?
- STEPHEN SONDHEIM REWORKG SEMAL 'COMPANY' TO MAKE LEAD GAY
- STEPHEN SONDHEIM LOVED HOW GAY BROADWAY’S ‘COMPANY’ REVIVAL IS, SAYS STAR MATT DOYLE
- COMPANY GO FULL-ON BUD LIGHT WH ‘GAY WATER’ RELEASE
- WHY HAVE SO MANY GAY ACTORS PLAYED THE ROLE OF "BOBBY" IN COMPANY?
- STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON A 'GAY' VERSN OF COMPANY
- STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON NEW VERSN OF "COMPANY." BOBBY WILL BE GAY!{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}LIFEBY DAN AVERYOCTOBER 15, 2013/7:01 PMBY DAN AVERYOCTOBER 15, 2013 / 7:01 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON NEW VERSN OF \"COMPANY.\" BOBBY WILL BE GAY!","DATEPUBLISHED":"2013-10-15T23:01:28.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2013-10-15T23:01:28.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","ARTICLESECTN":"LIFE"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}STEPHEN SONDHEIM'S COMPANY IS ONE OF HIS MOST BELOVED MILS, BUT THE SHOW IS GETTG A MAJOR FACELIFT: THE NEW YORK TIM IS REPORTG SONDHEIM IS REWORKG THE MATERIAL WH ONCE DIRECTOR JOHN TIFFANY FOR A POSSIBLE BROADWAY N. ONE BIG CHANGE: BOBBY WILL BE OPENLY GAY, AND JUGGLG MULTIPLE BOYIENDS WH A FEAR OF {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEATER WRER PAT HEALY REPORTS SOME CHARACTERS WILL EVEN SWCH GENRS: JOANNE, WHO SGS “THE LADI WHO LUNCH” AND WAS ORIGALLY PLAYED BY ELAE STRCH, IS GOG TO BE PLAYED BY ALAN CUMMG A STAGED READG ON FRIDAY FOR ROUNDABOUT THEATRE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}[PTN ID="ATTACHMENT_128584" ALIGN="ALIGNRIGHT" WIDTH="220"] RAúL ESPARZA THE 2008 PRODUCTN OF "COMPANY" (JOE SNOTT, THIRTEEN/WNET)[/PTN]{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FANS OF THE TONY-WNG SHOW HAVE LONG NTEMPLATED BOBBY, A SGLE MAN GATHERG IENDS TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE HIS 35TH BIRTHDAY, IS ACTUALLY A CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL—SOMETHG SONDHEIM AND COMPANY'S BOOK WRER, GEE FURTH, AVOID NFIRMG. BUT TIFFANY'S IA THAT BOBBY BE OUT AND PROUD TICKLED SONDHEIM'S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}“IT’S STILL A MIL ABOUT MMENT, BUT MARRIAGE IS SEEN AS SOMETHG VERY DIFFERENT 2013 THAN WAS 1970,” SONDHEIM SAYS. “WE DON’T AL WH GAY MARRIAGE AS SUCH, BUT THIS VERSN LETS EXPLORE THE ISSU OF MMENT A H WAY.”{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}DANIEL EVANS, NOMATED FOR A TONY FOR THE 2008 REVIVAL OF SUNDAY THE PARK WH GEE, WILL PLAY BOBBY FRIDAY'S TRAGILLY PRIVATE PERFORMANCE. JOG HIM AND CUMMG ARE BOBBY STEGGERT AND MICHAEL URIE, AMONG OTHERS. SHOULD THE STAGG GO WELL, ROUNDABOUT MIGHT—MIGHT—NSIR A FULL {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SHOULD THAT PRODUCTN E TO PASS, WHO WOULD YOU ST? NEIL PATRICK HARRIS IS ALREADY WARMG UP HIS PIP FOR HEDWIG AND HAS PERFORMED COMPANY BEFORE. URIE ULD BE ANOTHER NTENR, THOUGH HE MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH OF A NAME. ANYONE KNOW IF ZACHARY QUTO N SG?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MAKE YOUR STG CHOIC THE MENTS SECTN BELOW!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
DO BOBBY NEED TO BE OPENLY GAY STEPHEN SONDHEIM’S REVISED ‘COMPANY’?
The qutn of whether the lead character Stephen Sondheim's semal 1970 mil <em>Company</em> is gay has been hoverg over the show for years. Now, Sondheim, along wh director John Tiffany, is reworkg the show to make explicly clear. * company is bobby gay *
Yterday afternoon was revealed that Stephen Sondheim (along wh director John Tiffany) has reworked his classic mil edy, Company, wh a major plot twist: Bobby, the central, sgle character, who spends the urse of the show alg wh his own abily to m, is gay. ” It’s an tertg revisn, as crics have long argued that Bobby was a closeted homosexual the first place. There’s not much the text that suggts Bobby is gay, although people have certaly wonred: why else uldn’t a handsome sgle man settle down?
STEPHEN SONDHEIM REWORKG SEMAL 'COMPANY' TO MAKE LEAD GAY
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“We don’t al wh gay marriage as such, but this versn lets explore the issu of mment a h way.
STEPHEN SONDHEIM LOVED HOW GAY BROADWAY’S ‘COMPANY’ REVIVAL IS, SAYS STAR MATT DOYLE
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”Perhaps that’s why Sondheim is on board wh this openly gay productn — which will see a readg at Roundabout Theater Company this week, featurg Daniel Evans, Bobby Steggert, Michael Urie, and Alan Cummg, who will liver Joanne’s famo 11 o’clock number.
It’s promisg that this Company will be actually reworked to ment, possibly, on the gay experience; while marriage is an optn, ’s not the only optn, and generatns of men who were told was not a possibily have surely seen their social and romantic sensibili affected by what mastream society saw as the norm. To be homosexual surely meant somethg different 1970 than do today, too, which cric Jam Jorn poted out when he reviewed the New York Philharmonic’s all-star stagg of the mil 2011 (Neil Patrick Harris starred as Bobby) for Capal New York.
COMPANY GO FULL-ON BUD LIGHT WH ‘GAY WATER’ RELEASE
When discsg a major lyril change the song “You Can Drive a Person Crazy, ” sung by Bobby’s three jilted lovers — “I uld unrstand a person if a person was a fag” turned to “I uld unrstand a person if he happened to be gay” when Roundabout revived the show 1995 — Jorn suggts that Bobby, who very well might be homosexual, wouldn’t be seen as such bee of the many layers of stigma attached to beg queer:Back the 1960s, the nventnal wisdom was that some men had sex wh other men ocsnally, and other men maybe fantasized om time to time about same-sex actn, but none of the guys were what you would ll homosexual. A homosexual, on the other hand, was seen as a pletely different breed, a “boy the band” hairdrser or an terr signer or an opera queen wh some sort of twisted secret sire to be a woman, or at least to be treated like a woman by some big, butch (preferably workg-class) straight du. That kd of homosexual was a “fag, ” a mp joke, and a woman chasg after such a creature was obvly ridiculo, bee, the words of an early Sondheim lyric, “his troers [are] vern….
But the revisn “happened to be gay” isn’t really a joke bee ’s non-judgmental. The ia here is, y, some guys who don’t appear effemate do turn out to be gay sometim, not that there’s anythg wrong wh that.
WHY HAVE SO MANY GAY ACTORS PLAYED THE ROLE OF "BOBBY" IN COMPANY?
A quarter century of enlightenment reveals that gay sexualy is somewhat more plex than we first place Company a more morn ntext, then, wh openly gay characters alg wh their mment issu, seems to take away om what mak the show so nuanced and plited: now we have a new reason for Bobby’s fear of mment, and prov that the heterosexual mols for uplg no longer shape his view of marriage.
After all, Bobby’s possible queerns never turned gay dienc away om the show before. A third uple learns the meang of votn while smokg pot; a fourth uple — now nfigured as two gay men — experienc hiccups on the way to the, as stng together by Sondheim’s diamante songs, “Company” offered a groundbreakg way of lookg at s subject, ls through a microspe than a kaleidospe.
One volv the gay uple, Jamie (formerly Amy) and Pl.
STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON A 'GAY' VERSN OF COMPANY
(“Company, wrten today, would surely clu at least one gay marriage, ” The Washgton Post’s Peter Marks wrote of a 2013 productn.
”In the years sce Company premiered, many crics, directors, and fans have duced that Bobby is gay, and that the unspoken nature of his sexualy is what ntribut to his two-dimensnaly as a character.
The qutn of whether the lead character Stephen Sondheim's semal 1970 mil Company is gay has been hoverg over the show for years.
STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON NEW VERSN OF "COMPANY." BOBBY WILL BE GAY!{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}LIFEBY DAN AVERYOCTOBER 15, 2013/7:01 PMBY DAN AVERYOCTOBER 15, 2013 / 7:01 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"STEPHEN SONDHEIM WORKG ON NEW VERSN OF \"COMPANY.\" BOBBY WILL BE GAY!","DATEPUBLISHED":"2013-10-15T23:01:28.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2013-10-15T23:01:28.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","ARTICLESECTN":"LIFE"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}STEPHEN SONDHEIM'S COMPANY IS ONE OF HIS MOST BELOVED MILS, BUT THE SHOW IS GETTG A MAJOR FACELIFT: THE NEW YORK TIM IS REPORTG SONDHEIM IS REWORKG THE MATERIAL WH ONCE DIRECTOR JOHN TIFFANY FOR A POSSIBLE BROADWAY N. ONE BIG CHANGE: BOBBY WILL BE OPENLY GAY, AND JUGGLG MULTIPLE BOYIENDS WH A FEAR OF {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEATER WRER PAT HEALY REPORTS SOME CHARACTERS WILL EVEN SWCH GENRS: JOANNE, WHO SGS “THE LADI WHO LUNCH” AND WAS ORIGALLY PLAYED BY ELAE STRCH, IS GOG TO BE PLAYED BY ALAN CUMMG A STAGED READG ON FRIDAY FOR ROUNDABOUT THEATRE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}[PTN ID="ATTACHMENT_128584" ALIGN="ALIGNRIGHT" WIDTH="220"] RAúL ESPARZA THE 2008 PRODUCTN OF "COMPANY" (JOE SNOTT, THIRTEEN/WNET)[/PTN]{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FANS OF THE TONY-WNG SHOW HAVE LONG NTEMPLATED BOBBY, A SGLE MAN GATHERG IENDS TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE HIS 35TH BIRTHDAY, IS ACTUALLY A CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL—SOMETHG SONDHEIM AND COMPANY'S BOOK WRER, GEE FURTH, AVOID NFIRMG. BUT TIFFANY'S IA THAT BOBBY BE OUT AND PROUD TICKLED SONDHEIM'S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}“IT’S STILL A MIL ABOUT MMENT, BUT MARRIAGE IS SEEN AS SOMETHG VERY DIFFERENT 2013 THAN WAS 1970,” SONDHEIM SAYS. “WE DON’T AL WH GAY MARRIAGE AS SUCH, BUT THIS VERSN LETS EXPLORE THE ISSU OF MMENT A H WAY.”{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}DANIEL EVANS, NOMATED FOR A TONY FOR THE 2008 REVIVAL OF SUNDAY THE PARK WH GEE, WILL PLAY BOBBY FRIDAY'S TRAGILLY PRIVATE PERFORMANCE. JOG HIM AND CUMMG ARE BOBBY STEGGERT AND MICHAEL URIE, AMONG OTHERS. SHOULD THE STAGG GO WELL, ROUNDABOUT MIGHT—MIGHT—NSIR A FULL {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SHOULD THAT PRODUCTN E TO PASS, WHO WOULD YOU ST? NEIL PATRICK HARRIS IS ALREADY WARMG UP HIS PIP FOR HEDWIG AND HAS PERFORMED COMPANY BEFORE. URIE ULD BE ANOTHER NTENR, THOUGH HE MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH OF A NAME. ANYONE KNOW IF ZACHARY QUTO N SG?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MAKE YOUR STG CHOIC THE MENTS SECTN BELOW!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
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