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To General Bill O'Reilly, now <style data-emotn="css umdwtv">{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:#FF3A30;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;lor:her;-webk-transn:background 0.4s;transn:background 0.4s;background:lear-gradient(#ffffff, #ffffff 50%, #d5dbe3 50%, #d5dbe3);-webk-background-size:100% 200%;background-size:100% 200%;}{lor:#000000;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;-webk-background-posn:100% 100%;background-posn:100% 100%;}</style><a data-href=" href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="dishonorably discharged" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">dishonorably discharged</a>, and his kdred spirs—Amerins of a certa age and plexn already alarmed by the untry's rapidly changg mographics and social stctur—the fight is existential. The very inty of the natn is at stake, as the secular, multicultural left is so thirsty to stroy Tradnal Christian Valu that they have started tryg to ban people om sayg, "Merry Christmas," replacg wh the dread, "Happy Holidays!" </p><style data-emotn="css aeyldl">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="1" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Of urse, The War is also pletely fictnal. Christmas is everywhere. It seems to beg even before Thanksgivg is over and done wh, and don't let up until January. In between, is ubiquo: the mall, the movi, the office party. It's not disappearg, is pable. And that's mostly a good thg. Christmas is fun—which is why no one wants to ban . Bis, when someone says, "Happy Holidays," Christmas is one of the holidays they want to be happy. 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Except the bt rponse this War on Christmas Season isn't meant to troll or outrage—at least acrdg to s creators. Daniel Kibblmh, a wrer on <em>The Late Show wh Stephen Colbert</em>, and Ashley Quach, a Los Angel illtrator, have teamed up for a book that seems to challenge every nservative Christian tale about Christmas wh a simple premise: In their story, Santa Cls is black and gay. </p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Their all-ag book, <em><a data-href=" href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Santa's Hband" data-vars-ga-product-id="2ce053f1-53e2-41b2-aae2-869761aa2f23" data-vars-ga-lk-treatment="(not set) | (not set)" data-product-url=" data-affiliate="te" data-affiliate-url=" data-affiliate-work="{"id":"6d6f68a9-010c-4169-97b0-14dd8a217bdb","se_id":"8b6b0f67-bc-4d9d-86c6-dff1abae12","metadata":{},"work":{"id":"469ce69f-4798-416d-9432-eaa9954b4053","name":"Amazon","metadata":{}}}" data-vars-ga-product-brand="Harper Dign" data-vars-ga-product-price="$15.52" data-vars-ga-product-retailer-id="830ee70b-2095-45ed-86a5-9050456428d2" data-vars-ga-product-sem3-brand="Harper Dign" data-vars-ga-product-sem3-tegory="Humoro" class="body-lk product-lks css-umdwtv ebsw2pb0">Santa's Hband</a></em>, seems ready-ma to tt O'Reilly's arteri, but they see as a joyful rponse to all the rage and rentment. It's a playful nudge towards the realizatn that everyone already has their own Christmas tradns, that we're all ntually addg more, and that what Santa Cls looks like might jt be the least important thg of all. I jumped on the phone wh both Kibblmh and Quach to hear why.</p><p data-no-id="5" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>ESQ: Was the book spired by the (fely real) War on Christmas?</strong></p><p data-no-id="6" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Daniel Kibblmh</strong>: Yeah, I thk that's fair. The direct spiratn for the book was this Twter joke that me and my now-wife ma reactn to the big blow-up over Mall of Ameri hirg one black Santa Cls performer. We took to Twter and we said, "If we have a child, they'll only know about Black Santa. And if they see a whe Santa at the mall, we'll jt expla that that's Santa's hband." It was actually that direct. Then Ashley popped up unrneath and said, "Boom. New children's book." And if I rell, you ma a piece of sample art that you end up g as your Christmas rd, right?</p><style data-emotn="css 1m81y1o">@media(max-width: 30rem){{m-height:209px;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{m-height:225px;}}{ntent:"";clear:both;display:table;}</style><div data-embed="twter" data-no-id="7" class="embed align-center css-1m81y1o e1dhx11l2"><div data-ad-exclu class="css-8c6v ehha8ut0">This ntent is imported om twter. You may be able to fd the same ntent another format, or you may be able to fd more rmatn, at their web se.</div><div class="css-ky2lhl e14n76iz1"><style data-emotn="css 44bwek">{grid-lumn:1;grid-row:1;z-x:-1;}@media(max-width: 30rem){{font-size:1.1rem;le-height:1.4rem;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{max-width:550px;}}</style><div class="css-44bwek e1v57j5l0"><blockquote class="twter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me & <a href=">@JenAshleyWright</a> have cid our future child will only know about Black Santa. If they see a whe one we'll say "That's his hband"</p>— Daniel Kibblmh (@kibblmh) <a href=">December 3, 2016</a></blockquote></div><style data-emotn="css 47ss7b">{grid-lumn:1;grid-row:1;}@media(max-width: 40.625rem){{width:100%;max-width:lc(100vw - (1rem * 2));}}</style><div data-width="550px" class="css-47ss7b e14n76iz0"><blockquote data-align="center" data-nversatn><a href=" class="twter-timele"> </a></blockquote></div></div></div><div data-embed="twter" data-no-id="8" class="embed align-center css-1m81y1o e1dhx11l2"><div data-ad-exclu class="css-8c6v ehha8ut0">This ntent is imported om twter. You may be able to fd the same ntent another format, or you may be able to fd more rmatn, at their web se.</div><div class="css-ky2lhl e14n76iz1"><div class="css-44bwek e1v57j5l0"><blockquote class="twter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">boom. new children's book.</p>— AP Quach (@sassquachics) <a href=">December 3, 2016</a></blockquote></div><div data-width="550px" class="css-47ss7b e14n76iz0"><blockquote data-align="center" data-nversatn><a href=" class="twter-timele"> </a></blockquote></div></div></div><p data-no-id="9" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Ashley Quach:</strong> Yeah, I draw different Christmas rd for everybody, so that was specifilly your Christmas rd. You own the only py of that, so enjoy.</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>I do have the origal artwork. Ashley popped to my mentns wh this betiful waterlor renrg of a black Santa Cls gog up agast a siarly jolly and beard whe Santa Cls figure—so close that their eyeballs were almost touchg, that is my favore tail. So that was fely the news we were all beg barraged wh, and we were also very much still experiencg Megyn Kelly's famo "Santa Cls is whe, he jt <em>is</em>" moment on Fox News. For any children who happened to be watchg Megyn Kelly's primetime news hour.</p><p data-no-id="11" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">In a lot of ways, was jt a reactn to people who wanted to police Christmas and keep all to themselv, whout acknowledgg the realy of how diverse the untry is, and how diverse our tradns have bee—not jt wh people om different religns, but jt wh pop culture beg one of the drivg forc behd .<br /></p><div data-ad-exclu class="css-8c6v ehha8ut0">This ntent is imported om youTube. 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Is that the statement of the book—that we should be ncerned wh the valu of somethg, not some rigid terpretatn of what looks like?</strong></p><p data-no-id="14" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>I don't know if 's a missn statement as much as jt a reflectn of the realy that I grew up wh. I have a Jewish mother and a non-Jewish father, and every year we celebrated Christmas and Santa Cls brought prents. And every year we also l a menorah. And we had extend fay om all kds of different backgrounds. So we celebrated this kd of qutsential Amerin Christmas, wh a hodgepodge of tradns, some of which were exclive to my own hoe, or my own fay. Some people get ndy their sho the night before. Some people go to midnight mass. I thk everybody has their own Christmas. It stck me as lunacy that there was some really rigid right and wrong way to do this.</p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="15" data-embed="pullquote" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css 1eiql25">{text-align:center;marg:0rem;paddg-top:0.9375rem;paddg-bottom:0.9375rem;}</style><blockquote class="css-1eiql25 e1pe3zr91"><style data-emotn="css ow0dpz">{borr:0.3125rem solid #FF3A30;borr-radi:100%;ntent:'';display:block;height:2.1875rem;left:50%;marg:-0.99rem to 0 -1.33rem;posn:absolute;width:2.1875rem;}</style><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-ow0dpz eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css la9czl">{font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.625rem;le-height:1.2;marg:0rem;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.75rem;le-height:1.2;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:2.375rem;le-height:1.2;}} b, strong{font-fay:her;font-weight:bold;} em, i{font-fay:her;font-style:alic;}{ntent:'＂';display:block;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:3.4375rem;le-height:0.72;font-style:alic;paddg:0.3125rem 0.875rem 0 0;}</style><blockquote class="css-la9czl e1pe3zr90">"I thk everybody has their own Christmas. It stck me as lunacy that there was some really rigid right and wrong way to do this."</blockquote><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></blockquote></div><p data-no-id="16" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>"Trollg" is probably the wrong word, but do seem like you guys want to piss some people off. The nservative movement now is almost fed by trollg—did you want to troll back?</strong></p><p data-no-id="17" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>AQ: </strong>If is trollg, 's fely the cutt, sweett, nict trollg you've ever seen your life. Daniel, what was that webse you shared earlier?</p><p data-no-id="18" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK:</strong> Oh, we were on<em> The Daily Stormer </em>today.</p><p data-no-id="19" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>AQ: </strong>Right. I had never heard of that before.</p><p data-no-id="20" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>You live a blsed life.</p><p data-no-id="21" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>AQ: </strong>But I'm learng a lot this week. The thg that was really funny to me was that they ran the story about , and they were talkg about fillg Christmas wh toxic trash. But they ran wh the cutt picture that I've drawn, of Santa up on one toe, holdg a mistletoe over his hband's head. And 's adorable. I'm like, do you know what you're dog? 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Santa and his hband are so supportive of each other. And I had so much fun drawg that, and the more I drew the relatnship, the more they beme real people. They sort of veloped ltle liv of their own. So was never really wh nsiratn for the people that wouldn't like would thk of . But I've certaly enjoyed, as the book has e out, seeg the pictur of the people that this book was for: the gay fai that have children, where they get to have this Christmas book that's for them. We got this great picture om adult gay men who were havg their own story circle. And jt warmed my heart so much. We knew we were gog to be pokg the—is a sleepg tiger?</p><p data-no-id="25" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK:</strong> I thk 's a racist bear.</p><p data-no-id="26" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>AQ: </strong>Yeah, we knew we were gog to be pokg the racist bear a ltle b. But certaly, for my work, I didn't thk about that much.</p><p data-no-id="27" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK:</strong> I feel the same way. I thk that if you read the book, and you look at the love and the craft that went to , this is not a lazy act of pure bag. We were tryg to make somethg that was genuely, genuely lovable and joyo. And I thk that makg the right people happy is more important to than makg the right people angry. Obvly, the pch has ntroversy built right to . We hope that gets the book attentn. I'm very OK wh makg people that I don't see eye to eye wh mad.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="28" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><div class="css-p7qblm ewcw41w0"><img alt="Cartoon, Fictnal character, Santa cls, Illtratn, Christmas eve, Label, " tle="Cartoon, Fictnal character, Santa cls, Illtratn, Christmas eve, Label, " loadg="lazy" width="2640" height="2031" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><a target="_blank" rel="noopener" href="//" class="ptert css-1i6sckr e1c1bym14"><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/" loadg="lazy" alt="ptert in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1l3i1cl ewcw41w1" /></a></div><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HarperColls</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="29" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>That's why I was reluctant to e the term "troll," bee there seems to be a genue worldview behd . When Santa's feedg Rudolph out of a "Pole Foods" bag, seems like an affirmatn of the liberal astal way of life, which has faced some backlash recently.</strong><br /></p><p data-no-id="30" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>I thk jt went hand--hand wh the tone we chose. When the whole premise of the book is, here's a nontradnal look at a tradnal figure, orr to ject a ltle satire to the book—a few actual jok above and beyond s base premise—I thk that thgs like that were ls a nsc the sense of quote-unquote "astal el" and our praved liftyle, and more jt a natural extensn of what we were wrg about and the people we figured we were wrg for. I thk was a lot more basic than that. They jt stck as funny -jok that f our cliché of a morn terracial gay uple.</p><p data-no-id="31" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>The illtratns tend to add a ltle b of snark. The le "each year, gets a ltle b warmer" is acpanied by a drawg of the toy factory, which has smoktacks. How much did you want that terplay?</strong></p><p data-no-id="32" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>I fely scripted jok to the text, but there wasn't a ton of back-and-forth. Once I locked the text, we were workg so quickly to get out time for the holidays that all of the Easter eggs jt beme Ashley's doma.</p><p data-no-id="33" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>AQ: </strong>A lot of was jt me and-g thgs that Daniel had already put on paper. Jok that he had wrten as suggtns for the pictur. And then to fd a way to take one step further, to make more visually active, while still matag the cheerful tone. Daniel might be lghg bee my origal draft for the smoktacks was a ltle more grim, origally. I had to pull back. I drew meltg snowmen. </p><p data-no-id="34" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Is this a children's book? Is a parody for adults?</strong></p><p data-no-id="35" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>DK: </strong>We ll "an all-ag book." There are parents who have given to their kids, or are readg wh their kids. Bee at the end of the day, 's really jt equable to any other troductory book about Santa Cls that you uld give to a five-year-old. 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