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UTC</time></div><div class="article-le-byle" data-activy-map="le-byle-article-top">By <span class="byle-name"><a href=">Elaa Patton</a></span></div></sectn><div class="article-body__ntent article-body-font--loadg"><p class="">If feels like Jonathan Van Ns is everywhere the days, ’s bee they are. The televisn personaly, podst host and thor, who genr-ntral pronouns, is starrg two seri available on Netflix this month: season six of the wildly popular “Queer Eye” reboot and the new origal “Gettg Cur Wh Jonathan Van Ns.”</p><p class="">In the new six-episo seri, spired by Van Ns’ long-nng podst of the same name, nothg is too big or too small to spark cursy — om bugs to skyscrapers. In some of the episos, Van Ns reviss subjects neart and art to them, cludg figure skatg, bety standards and the genr bary. </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><div id="taboolaReadMoreBelow"></div><p class="">“Those are such expansive, gigantic topics that I’m so passnate about. I don’t thk I’ll ever be done learng about them,” Van Ns told NBC News.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns looks through a microspe the fourth episo of Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1406" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns looks through a microspe the fourth episo of Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Breakg om the one-gut podst mol, an exuberant Van Ns terviews a host of experts for each of the show’s episos. When they’re not holdg urt a lorfully rated loft, they’re often nng around New York Cy, droppg by such landmarks as the Amerin Mm of Natural History, the Metropolan Mm of Art and var parts of Central Park. </p><p class="">The Stonewall Inn, the se of the historic 1969 monstratns that beme a turng pot the morn gay rights movement, is one of the backdrops for the seri’ hallmark episo, “Can We Say Bye-Bye to the Bary?” In the episo, Van Ns and a group of notable cultural figur and activists dive to the long history of genr-nonnformy and the much more recent history of the morn genr bary. </p><p class="">“The genr-diverse muny — trans people, our whole muny of nonbary, genr-nonnformg people — has been so vilified and so ‘othered,’” Van Ns said. “I wanted to show jt how human we are and how mon we are. We’ve been around for thoands of years. Beg trans, or genr-nonnformg or nonbary isn’t new. Some of the language is new to some people. But even the language isn’t that new to a lot of people.”</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns and Elt Halverson Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns and Elt Halverson Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Jason Decrown / Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Language is a topic that up throughout the episo. At the Stonewall Inn, Van Ns holds a roundtable wh the artist and activist Joshua Allen, the wrer and performance artist Alok Vaid-Menon and Geo Neptune, a Two-Spir artist who broke ground by beg <a href=">elected to office</a> Mae 2020. Two-Spir is an Indigeno-specific term that enpass multiple unrstandgs of genr and sexualy: In the episo, Neptune explas how the Wabanaki creatn story, the first Two-Spir person is created om the bed senc of the first man and first woman.  </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">The roundtable participants discs the relatnship between language, muny and reprentatn — cludg the history behd the term “g out” and, for Neptune, receivg their spir name. They also discs how the genr-nonnformg muny has ed and ntu to e language as a tool to bat the systemic erasure of trans, nonbary and genr-diverse people.</p><p class="">Van Ns, who publicly me out as nonbary a <a href=">2019 terview</a> wh Out magaze, said that up until a few years ago, the language of genr diversy was still new to them. The repercsns of that and of not havg the abily to fully explore their genr inty until later life are thgs that Van Ns has discsed openly the last few years. And they said that their sire to protect other people om those same experienc is a drivg force the cisns they make as an entertaer and how they e their platform.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns Netflx's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns Netflx's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Jason DeCrown / Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">“Growg up, I was bullied so much,” Van Ns said. “And, om a very young age, I remember thkg that if I n turn to somethg that mak so that other kids don’t go through this, then will have been worth .”</p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend" data-ttid="remend-wrapper"></div><p class="">The show also aims to have a multigeneratnal appeal by verg figur that range om early activists like Marsha P. Johnson, who was a central figure the 1969 Stonewall uprisg and an advote for low-e LGBTQ people of lor, to activist and mol Nala Tosat and the lennial voic at the roundtable.</p><p class="">Van Ns scribed the episo as “a love letter to all genr-diverse people.” As much as was spired by what they would have wanted to have seen growg up, they said ’s also for olr people who have been left out of the nversatn: “There’s so many olr people who don’t unrstand. They don’t have the language for . They grew up reprsive areas wh all sorts of doctratn. They didn’t know how to live their thenticy.”</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">It’s a lot of ground to ver a half-hour episo. But Van Ns pulls off wh effervcent charm and a heavy dose of wholome humor — cludg a satisfyg openg sk about genr-reveal parti and playg life-size versns of his shoulr angel and vil — somethg that all of the seri’ episos have mon. </p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend" data-ttid="remend-wrapper"></div><p class="">Next up, Van Ns will publish a send book, “Love That Story: Observatns From a Geoly Queer Life,” which is out April. 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UTC</time></div><div class="article-le-byle" data-activy-map="le-byle-article-top">By <span class="byle-name"><a href=">Elaa Patton</a></span></div></sectn><div class="article-body__ntent article-body-font--loadg"><p class="">If feels like Jonathan Van Ns is everywhere the days, ’s bee they are. The televisn personaly, podst host and thor, who genr-ntral pronouns, is starrg two seri available on Netflix this month: season six of the wildly popular “Queer Eye” reboot and the new origal “Gettg Cur Wh Jonathan Van Ns.”</p><p class="">In the new six-episo seri, spired by Van Ns’ long-nng podst of the same name, nothg is too big or too small to spark cursy — om bugs to skyscrapers. In some of the episos, Van Ns reviss subjects neart and art to them, cludg figure skatg, bety standards and the genr bary. </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><div id="taboolaReadMoreBelow"></div><p class="">“Those are such expansive, gigantic topics that I’m so passnate about. I don’t thk I’ll ever be done learng about them,” Van Ns told NBC News.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns looks through a microspe the fourth episo of Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1406" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns looks through a microspe the fourth episo of Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Breakg om the one-gut podst mol, an exuberant Van Ns terviews a host of experts for each of the show’s episos. When they’re not holdg urt a lorfully rated loft, they’re often nng around New York Cy, droppg by such landmarks as the Amerin Mm of Natural History, the Metropolan Mm of Art and var parts of Central Park. </p><p class="">The Stonewall Inn, the se of the historic 1969 monstratns that beme a turng pot the morn gay rights movement, is one of the backdrops for the seri’ hallmark episo, “Can We Say Bye-Bye to the Bary?” In the episo, Van Ns and a group of notable cultural figur and activists dive to the long history of genr-nonnformy and the much more recent history of the morn genr bary. </p><p class="">“The genr-diverse muny — trans people, our whole muny of nonbary, genr-nonnformg people — has been so vilified and so ‘othered,’” Van Ns said. “I wanted to show jt how human we are and how mon we are. We’ve been around for thoands of years. Beg trans, or genr-nonnformg or nonbary isn’t new. Some of the language is new to some people. But even the language isn’t that new to a lot of people.”</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns and Elt Halverson Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns and Elt Halverson Netflix's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Jason Decrown / Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Language is a topic that up throughout the episo. At the Stonewall Inn, Van Ns holds a roundtable wh the artist and activist Joshua Allen, the wrer and performance artist Alok Vaid-Menon and Geo Neptune, a Two-Spir artist who broke ground by beg <a href=">elected to office</a> Mae 2020. Two-Spir is an Indigeno-specific term that enpass multiple unrstandgs of genr and sexualy: In the episo, Neptune explas how the Wabanaki creatn story, the first Two-Spir person is created om the bed senc of the first man and first woman.  </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">The roundtable participants discs the relatnship between language, muny and reprentatn — cludg the history behd the term “g out” and, for Neptune, receivg their spir name. They also discs how the genr-nonnformg muny has ed and ntu to e language as a tool to bat the systemic erasure of trans, nonbary and genr-diverse people.</p><p class="">Van Ns, who publicly me out as nonbary a <a href=">2019 terview</a> wh Out magaze, said that up until a few years ago, the language of genr diversy was still new to them. The repercsns of that and of not havg the abily to fully explore their genr inty until later life are thgs that Van Ns has discsed openly the last few years. And they said that their sire to protect other people om those same experienc is a drivg force the cisns they make as an entertaer and how they e their platform.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Jonathan Van Ns Netflx's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."" height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer" data-ttid="ptn__ntaer">Jonathan Van Ns Netflx's "Gettg Cur wh Jonathan Van Ns."</span><span class="ptn__source">Jason DeCrown / Netflix</span></figptn></figure><p class="">“Growg up, I was bullied so much,” Van Ns said. “And, om a very young age, I remember thkg that if I n turn to somethg that mak so that other kids don’t go through this, then will have been worth .”</p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend" data-ttid="remend-wrapper"></div><p class="">The show also aims to have a multigeneratnal appeal by verg figur that range om early activists like Marsha P. Johnson, who was a central figure the 1969 Stonewall uprisg and an advote for low-e LGBTQ people of lor, to activist and mol Nala Tosat and the lennial voic at the roundtable.</p><p class="">Van Ns scribed the episo as “a love letter to all genr-diverse people.” As much as was spired by what they would have wanted to have seen growg up, they said ’s also for olr people who have been left out of the nversatn: “There’s so many olr people who don’t unrstand. They don’t have the language for . They grew up reprsive areas wh all sorts of doctratn. They didn’t know how to live their thenticy.”</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">It’s a lot of ground to ver a half-hour episo. But Van Ns pulls off wh effervcent charm and a heavy dose of wholome humor — cludg a satisfyg openg sk about genr-reveal parti and playg life-size versns of his shoulr angel and vil — somethg that all of the seri’ episos have mon. </p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend" data-ttid="remend-wrapper"></div><p class="">Next up, Van Ns will publish a send book, “Love That Story: Observatns From a Geoly Queer Life,” which is out April. 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