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data-ttid="ContentHearContaer" class="ContentHearContaer-cGKRbE knDxNq"><div class="ContentHearHedAccredatnWrapper-GFiQf cDNVlV"><div data-ttid="ContentHearTleBlockWrapper" class="ContentHearTleBlockWrapper-cjmSKp cCntXd"><div data-ttid="ContentHearRubric" class="ContentHearRubricBlock-LmpbT eRFpQc"><div data-ttid="ContentHearRubricDateBlock" class="ContentHearRubricDateBlock-kAQcZP fTFWxD"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric ContentHearRubricContaer-eTudtt iRsSlw"><a class="RubricLk-gRWSOU fTtYjx bric__lk" href="/culture"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Culture</span></a></div></div></div><h1 data-ttid="ContentHearHed" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearHed-NCyCC iUEiRd jPOabC BjYFU">Scissor Sisters' Jake Shears Keeps Makg Queer Art for Everyone</h1></div><div class="ContentHearAccredatn-lfctVB etVsnJ ntent-hear__accredatn" data-ttid="ContentHearAccredatn"><div class="ContentHearDek-bIqFFZ eASNBN">Scissor Sisters were a fg band not jt of the die-rock era, but of queer art the early ‘00s. So when the band is on a break, what do you do? If you’re Jake Shears, you wre a touchg memoir, rerd an amb solo album, star <em>Kky Boots</em>, and disver that you have even more to give.</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/brennan-rley">Brennan Carley</a></span></span></p><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">Photography by </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/alex-ri">Alex Ri</a></span></span></p></div><time data-ttid="ContentHearPublishDate" dateTime="2018-02-21T15:49:21-05:00" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearPublishDate-eIBicG iUEiRd ivrQAn cZpOSL">Febary 21, 2018</time></div></div><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--standard ContentHearAccredatnSocialIns-jorO fPzfaa ntent-hear__social-share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div></div><div class="ContentHearLeadAsset-hGbumP fEknXh lead-asset ContentHearLeadAssetWrapper-hfXHEc Grck lead-asset--width-fullbleed" data-ttid="ContentHearLeadAsset"><figure class="ContentHearLeadAssetContent-kOfYSG dRGWbI"><div class="ContentHearLeadAssetContentMedia-bLEIpi jjhWdS lead-asset__ntent__photo"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz ccdiSo"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w, 1920w, 2240w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="This image may nta Jake Shears Human Person Clothg Apparel and Man" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></div></div></span></div></figure></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box ContentHearPersistentAsi-fsnAmQ dFzKzm"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--has-background ContentHearSocialIns-jzJiyg ctaZl social-ins--share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></hear></div><div data-attribute-verso-pattern="article-body" class="ArticlePageContentBackGround-cNiFNN kJkLmH article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP eRxRjL"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eSsnKa"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Even if you thk you might not know Jake Shears, you know Jake Shears. His rock group Scissor Sisters—of “Lra” and “Let’s Have a Kiki” fame—were as fluential a part of the New York die-turned-mastream revolutn that the Strok, LCD Soundsystem, and Yeah Yeah Yeahs get most of the cred for. Beyond their repertoire of unassailably good sgl (“Take Your Mama,” “Mary,” “I Don’t Feel Like Danc’,” “Only the Hors”—we uld, and should, go on, so we jt will: "Ooh," "Shady Love," "Filthy Geo," and so forth), Scissor Sisters put their queerns the foreground of their art while still attractg fans om all walks of life.</p><p>At the center of all their succs was Shears, born Jason Sellards, who created the band wh Stt Hoffman 2001, graduatg om his go-go dancer days to giggg around New York’s gngit nightclubs and bars. In his new memoir <em>Boys Keep Swgg</em>, Shears reunts his entire life up to the creative begngs of Scissor Sisters’ sophomore album—a way of avoidg any bloodlettg. It's a hugely pellg rellectn of growg up gay, changg the sound of pop, and the fallout that om nonstop tourg on the heels of overwhelmg succs. It’s a mic memoir, sure, but ’s more than that; ’s a rehg, sexual glimpse at one man’s story of queerns and fame. It’s the sort of book that kids the closet serve to have as an example that, y, thgs do get better, and weirr, and wilr.</p><p>Frh om another night <em>Kky Boots</em>—a feel-good Broadway mil that the mician stepped to last month, which his Charlie Price steals the show at every turn wh bright-eyed exuberance and his tramark pip—Shears joed <em>GQ</em> to discs <em>Boys Keep Swgg</em>, his upg solo material, and how mic has changed over the last few years.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><hr/><p><strong>GQ: One of my favore bs your book is about how every time you e back to New York after tourg, this place you once lled home, feels foreign new ways to you. That really spoke to my experience leavg for four years, too.</strong><br/>Jake Shears: My old life was gone. That was fely happeng at that pot my life, was such a drastic change. I had been gone for such a chunk, that was really disorientg, and really threw me to a heavy prsn.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>I've grown to love L.A. It was a really touchy transn. It was not the easit. It took me some years to love . I love my hoe and I have a really, really nice life there, but my life there is a lot quieter. L.A. will never, ever, ever, ever be my town. It'll never be my town. It's not New York. New York will always be my town, jt as far as my history here now and for what the cy means to me... what I mean to possibly certa people the cy. There's a nnectn here that I feel like I'll never have wh L.A. So that's been one of the nice thgs about g back. I haven't necsarily felt that sort of disorientatn.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="ianmc"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Do you ever take a step back and thk about how you and Scissor Sisters shaped New York? It's not like you were an nsequential part of the scene for a lot of people.</strong><br/>No, but you wouldn't know , if you were lookg at histori that have been wrten of that time the arts. It's really, really tertg. Like, I don't fuckg re, but there's some major erasure gog on there. It's crazy to me and I thk 's fely bee we're queer. You know, I'm shocked sometim at our absence history.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="p3i5h8"></div></div><p>It blows. It's this sort of herent discrimatory bias over our disposn and philosophy and sexualy. I thk 's nsired. It's so funny how like, you know , -legimiz certa people's ey. You know? Bee, if I mean, if we weren't a rock and roll band, then I don't know what rock and roll is. [<em>lghs</em>]</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I don't know what else to say about . But I'm proud. I'm proud of what we did. And was a fun n. In a certa way I feel like, right now, I'm the procs of closg that chapter— a big way.</p><p><strong>You talk the book about how the creative procs for Scissor Sisters uld be stctive at tim. Did feel like you were always tryg to recreate somethg?</strong><br/>Yeah and that fely was a symptom of a creative procs for me that wasn't gonna work the long term. I work a pletely different way now.</p><p><strong>How so?</strong><br/>I mean, I was so hard on myself. I was the stud every day wrg. That's jt dimishg returns. I haven't wrten a song a year. And I'm totally fe wh that. I've still you know got this album to put out, that I'm so exced about.</p><p><strong>That's such a different attu than the Jake we see the book, durg the Scissor Sisters heyday.</strong><br/>Yeah. [I was] jt pletely paranoid. I'm really <em>exced</em> to wre aga. I'm really exced to. And I want to. I'm ready to start soon. And when I <em>do</em> wre 's jt like, five days. And then that's , that's all I'm givg myself for a mute, to see what happens those five days. That's my time lim. I fd that the work has bee exponentially better. The rat of good stuff is a lot higher.</p><p><strong>Is that disciple somethg you applied to wrg your memoir, too?</strong><br/>I tried every day. I worked on so hard. Over the two years that I wrote , beme a ltle b of a ctch for me. I was so attached to —or attached to <em>workg</em> on . It was hard to let go. When I got the unrrected proofs the mail, I was so upset. [<em>lghs</em>] I was vastated. It was the oppose of what I probably should've felt. I feel like wh memoirs, there's 25 different books that uld've happened. This is <em>one</em> of those fe books. And I n't help but thk, "Oh is there some other parallel realy where, where another versn of this would've been better?"</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="ln3676"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>If I would've started wrg that book now, the next two years I'm sure 'd be a different book. It's jt the thgs you remember. The thgs you fet. I'll be bshg my teeth and be like, "Why did I fuckg not put that ?"</p><p><strong>There's not many books like this out there. I feel like, if I'd had this memoir to read when I was 14... for a young gay kid who don't want to e out bee who knows what the future has store, your memoir is this upliftg blueprt of a book. I jt wish I'd had somethg like when I was younger to read, to tell me that the thgs I was feelg were normal.</strong><br/>Yeah, me too. The clost thg I had, strangely, were the two gay guys on the island [Edor's Note: Shears lived on San Juan Island, WA as a child] that beiend me. Sean works at the gas statn, and Larry was his partner who was dyg of AIDS. They knew I was gay. I wasn't out or anythg. But Sean gave me <em>Tal of the Cy</em> when I was a hman high school. That's the clost thg to what you're talkg about, even though 's fictn.</p><p>But then flash forward: I ma the mil of . You never know. You n give a kid a book, and like, you know you never know what's gonna happen.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person and Fger" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure><p><strong>The book feels both super universal but also credibly queer.</strong><br/>Yeah. All kds of people uld pick up and read and enjoy .</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>That's sort of how I saw Scissor Sisters their appeal, too. Queer tent but for the mass.</strong><br/>Well that was the goal. That was kd of the visn when we were makg . To certa gre, you get to further rerds by the band and, and we went ... other directns. [<em>lghs</em>] I thk our third rerd, I fely ma for a queer dience. That's jt what I wanted to do at that pot.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="hyiq2a"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Defely this [solo] album that I've ma now is tend for everyone. I thk that's sperately need right now. I thk everythg is so agmented—and ankly, not a lot of fun. I thk mic is a fuckg drag right now. It's overly ser. It's jt fuckg heavy. It's a reflectn of our tim. But I've fuckg had . There's still gotta be a place to have fun. There's no humor anythg. But jt bee the world is a fuckg strange place—and not a great place—do not mean that we have to fuckg be miserable nstantly. I jt don't buy that.</p><p><strong>Well 's so strange how easily we as a people settle to misery when 's what we e to expect, pecially unr this admistratn</strong><br/>Yeah and I thk fely bleeds to mic. Good lord. I've never felt so outsi of what's gog on [ the mic dtry]. I felt pletely and totally disnnected om . And you know, maybe I have no choice. And that's actually totally fe bee then you jt wre yourself your own place. L-Manuel Miranda said, about <em>In the Heights</em>, "I didn't see a place for me on Broadway. And so I ma one." And that's a really, really spirg thought.</p><p>There's an excg thg though happeng where you've got Chance the Rapper puttg his rerds out himself. Frank Ocean is puttg his rerds out himself. <em>That's</em> awome. Fancially you n reap greater rewards skippg a major label. But then you've got the streamg servic, which are a big problem now for artists.</p><p>I really hope that somethg happens wh pyright laws. That stuff needs to be updated. It mak really tough to have a band. It sts a ridiculo amount of money to do that now, to make a rerd like the one I jt ma. It was the most expensive rerd I've ever ma.</p><p><strong>Did you have to self-fance , sce was you solo, sans Scissor Sisters?</strong><br/>Oh yeah. I've paid for everythg. And you know what? The way I look at , 's tough. This is a fuckg <em>expensive</em> rerd, jt the way I did . There's like 30 people playg on . But I ma somethg that's exactly the way that I want to sound. It's bee a lot harr to make mic the way I jt did . And there's not very many people dog .</p><p><strong>Well everyone dips to the exact same well of producers and songwrers, for one thg.</strong><br/>Completely, everyone's got the same crayons, you know? I wish I wasn't so allergic to ntemporary pop and stuff. I h a wall wh productn. I hate the way sh sounds.</p><p><strong>You told <em>Billboard</em> a uple of years ago that you never wanted to make a solo album bee that was "prsg." So what changed?</strong><br/>It jt sound... felt chey. I mean, my heart of hearts, I wanted to start a new project maybe. What changed? I jt don't know if I had any other choice. [<em>lghs</em>] There were a uple years there that were very, very tough for me. And I had to make certa cisns my life to get my nfince to a spot where I saw [a solo album] as somethg that was a valid thg. And also, I redisvered what I do bt—redisverg my voice, and not necsarily reventg but jt g wh my perspective that I have, at this moment.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="4747i"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>That brgs me back to a sectn the book where you talk about battlg the ner sabotr, the voic that tell you, "You'll never have a h aga." How did you get past that?</strong><br/>I thk was jt puttg myself the right place aga, and makg sure that my life general was a spot that need to be. The most important thg to me now is jt makg really good work that I love and my wish for the next 20 years is that I'll be able to jt ntue to do that.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Hopefully fds an dience. Hopefully people love and nnect wh . You know, I did this ltle tour last year. In June, I did Louisville, Atlanta, Nashville, Birmgham, Alabama, and then New Orleans. It was so much fun. It was the first time I played all the mic.</p><p>We got to Birmgham and, and my buddy Tex, one of my bt iends, was wh me. And me and the band are about to go out on stage. [<em>starts lghg</em>] Tex up. He's like, "Miss Thg, there's <em>nobody</em> out there." [<em>heavy lghter</em>] "There are <em>six</em> people out there."</p><p>That ed to be my absolute worst nightmare. I ed to <em>actually</em> have nightmar about that, about gog out to an empty hoe. And was really funny, I jt lghed. We went out and was one of my favore shows I've ever played. And yeah, was 10 people there. [<em>lghs</em>] I've never played to such a small dience, even the early stag. In the bars, I've never played for that few people. I like beg that spot now. I feel like I had to learn how to get there over the years. I don't necsarily thk you n jt like tomatilly show up there. At least, I uldn't. But 's fely a happier perspective for me.</p><p><strong>Let's swch gears for a moment. What is like makg art as a queer person this day and age?</strong><br/>Look, I thk thgs are a good spot. You look at the landspe and there's a ton more visibily. There's a <em>lot</em> more. Look at Ed [Droste] Grizzly Bear, and Perfume Geni, and Frank Ocean. I mean like 's amazg that I thk there have been really big stris. The thg about those artists though that I feel ncerned about—and maybe 's jt bee of the history of my band and what we were talkg about earlier—I thk 's really easy outsi the gay prs... My only ncern for <em>my</em> rerd is that somehow gets ghettoized.</p><p><strong>You talk the book about how you feel much of Scissor Sisters' early work was dismissed and ghettoized too, wh the media g very thly d language to basilly tiptoe around llg you a gay band for gay dienc only.</strong><br/>Did you <em>see</em> some of that stuff?</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="9dht3g"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>I did. It's language that to straight people might not seem d or offensive at all, but... is.</strong><br/>Yeah. I jt thk 's really easy to get dismissed. I've got fah that that's not gonna happen. But that's a worry that I rry. I hope don't get pigeonholed. But 's funny bee yeah, I haven't put out mic a long time, so I don't know what to expect, really. I don't thk 's gonna be big out of the bag. I thk 's got the potential to be a huge rerd. I thk 's gonna take a lot of hoofg . I thk 's gonna take a lot of work. But I thk there's potentially huge songs on .</p><p><strong>On the other end of the spectm, do you ever worry about gay culture gettg so homogenized, as be more accepted and monplace, that disappears entirely?</strong><br/>I don't thk 's really happeng at this pot New York and L.A. and San Francis. It's jt not happeng. I thk right now Ameri 's about the send and third tiered ci. I mean for years Kansas Cy's been one of the fuckg olt plac you uld possibly be, wh awome stuff gog on and wicked people dog rad thgs. I rerd so much of this rerd Louisville, Kentucky. I fuckg loved there. It was great, you know. It's a small cy but there's a lot of eedom those plac. That do <em>not</em> exist what are nsired the culture pals.</p><p>I thk 's money. I thk 's jt what people n afford, when people aren't as strsed out about their livg scenar. Beg able to afford gettg groceri. It e people up to be creative. I thk when you're spendg 16 hours of every day to pay your rent and get food, I jt don't see where there's time outsi of that to be creative and <em>make</em> thgs.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I always spend a lot of time Berl. That is the great thg about that cy. I thk all down to st of livg. I thk L.A. had for a mute. I thk L.A. is now beg really private, seems to me. Jt the past five years thgs have gotten a lot more expensive. [At one time] seemed like a place that kids out of school uld e and live their liv cheaply.</p><p><strong>Is that why New Orleans has been workg for you, over the last uple years? As a cy that don't feel prohibive?</strong><br/>Oh my <em>god</em> yeah. There's nothg like . It remds me of what San Francis mt have been like the '70s or somethg. I love . You know 's a great spot right now. I like to thk that 's a ltle too volatile to get too bougie. That's my worst nightmare for . But 's such a special place bee 's such a ty town. And then you have this huge flux of tourists. All the tourists are there to have a great time. So there's always new fac. There's kd of this anonymy you n have there. It's so betiful. And 's dangero. You know, which... 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