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50vw);}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{marg:to;}}</style><div class="ntent-lead-image css-sm2oir e5f9kgu2"><style data-emotn="css eag3eq">{posn:relative;height:to;}</style><div class="css-eag3eq e5f9kgu1"><style data-emotn="css 335qep">{posn:relative;width:100%;height:100%;object-f:ver;vertil-align:top;}</style><img fetchPrry="high" alt="3" tle="3" width="1500" height="2250" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-335qep exi4f7p0" /></div><style data-emotn="css 5kpeya">{font-fay:Gilroy,Helveti,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:0.70003rem;letter-spacg:0.05em;le-height:2rem;text-transform:upperse;}@media(max-width: 73.75rem){{paddg-left:0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{paddg-left:0;}} span{lor:#6F6F6F;}</style><figptn class="css-5kpeya enfs9c50"><style data-emotn="css bdkd9">{lor:#6F6F6F;paddg-right:0.3125rem;font-fay:Gilroy,Helveti,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:0.70003rem;le-height:1.2;letter-spacg:0.05em;text-transform:upperse;}</style><span class="css-bdkd9 e6iqd2">Christopher Smh/Netflix</span></figptn></div></div><style data-emotn="css z6i669">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;paddg-left:0rem;paddg-right:0rem;posn:relative;}@media(m-width: 48rem){{paddg-left:3.5rem;paddg-right:3.5rem;}}@media(m-width: 48rem) and (max-width: 61.25rem){{max-width:45.25rem;marg-left:to;marg-right:to;}}@media(m-width: 61.25rem){{paddg-left:0rem;paddg-right:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 73.75rem) and (max-width: 100rem){{paddg-left:0rem;paddg-right:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 90rem){{paddg-left:0rem;paddg-right:0rem;}} em{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;}{clear:both;ntent:" ";display:block;font-size:0.7rem;le-height:1.5rem;height:0rem;visibily:hidn;}</style><div class="article-body-ntent article-body standard-body-ntent css-z6i669 ewisyje7"><style data-emotn="css 1rk79nl">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;marg:0.9375rem 0 0 0.625rem;paddg:0 0 0 1.25rem;}@media(m-width: 48rem){{marg:0.9375rem 0;}} b, strong{font-fay:her;font-weight:bold;} em{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} em, i{font-fay:her;font-style:alic;} li{paddg-bottom:0.625rem;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} li::marker{lor:#323232;}</style><ul data-no-id="0" class="css-1rk79nl et3p2gv0"><li><em>Queer Eye</em> has been officially renewed for <style data-emotn="css 9cezh6">{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:0.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:her;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;lor:#E61957;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;}{lor:#595959;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;}</style><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="seasons four and five" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">seasons four and five</a> and returns to Netflix on July 19.</li><li>Here, Bobby Berk opens up about what really go down while filmg—and the lsons he's learned on the path to succs.</li><li>Earlier this year, the Fab Five reflected on the past three seasons—and how they've shaped Amerin culture— an <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="exclive terview" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">exclive terview</a> wh </li></ul><style data-emotn="css 18pb4rg">{borr:0;borr-bottom:th solid black;marg:1.875rem 0;clear:both;}</style><hr data-no-id="1" class="css-18pb4rg et3p2gv0" /><style data-emotn="css 18vfmjb">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} em{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;}</style><p data-no-id="2" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Bobby Berk will spire you to work a ltle harr. </p><p data-no-id="3" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Before the 37-year-old om “small town Missouri” rose to fame as a member of the Emmy wng Fab Five on Netflix’s <em><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">Queer Eye</a></em>, Berk had a reputatn for gettg fired—several tim. He was let go om a job as sign manager at Rtoratn Hardware the early 2000s for accintally edg the time at which his employe clocked and out (“I actually got fired om RH while Tom Felicia was downstairs filmg the origal <em>Queer Eye</em>”), and he was let go om Bed, Bath, and Beyond “bee I faxed my rume to Wt Elm.” Uh-oh.</p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="4" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css y6rgkz">{borr:th solid #CDCDCD;borr-bottom:th solid black;borr-left:0;borr-right:0;borr-top:th solid black;borr-width:0.75rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;marg-top:1.875rem;paddg:0.625rem 0 0.25rem;}@media(max-width: 73.75rem){{marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{marg-top:2.5rem;marg-bottom:2.5rem;}}</style><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><style data-emotn="css whsy2b">{borr-bottom:th solid black;display:block;font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:500;letter-spacg:0.1em;marg:0rem;marg-bottom:0.3125rem;paddg-bottom:0.625rem;text-transform:upperse;}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.2;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.3125rem;le-height:1.2;}}</style><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 8lle59">{max-width:lc(100% - 120px - .625rem);}</style><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><style data-emotn="css c4s2gi">{paddg:0rem;marg:0rem;list-style:none;}</style><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><style data-emotn="css 1b7ml99">{font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;paddg-top:0.9375rem;}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.125rem;le-height:1.2;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.2;}}{borr-bottom:th solid black;paddg-bottom:1.25rem;} a{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;lor:her;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;} a:hover{lor:#595959;} a>img{borr-radi:0.1875rem;}</style><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><style data-emotn="css 1bn7a5e">{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-directn:row;-ms-flex-directn:row;flex-directn:row;-webk-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webk-jtify-ntent:flex-start;jtify-ntent:flex-start;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;}</style><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26899312/flix-queer-eye-fab-five-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye Is Actually Makg Ameri Great Aga" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 1l0u1">{marg-right:0.625rem;height:to;}</style><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Eyewear, Fun, Fashn sign, Photography, Photo shoot, Style, " tle="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Eyewear, Fun, Fashn sign, Photography, Photo shoot, Style, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Queer Eye Is Actually Makg Ameri Great Aga</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26950553/queer-eye-fab-five-gayle-kg-meetg/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What Happened When the Fab Five Met Gayle" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Fun, Fashn sign, Outerwear, Team, Tourism, Costume, " tle="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Fun, Fashn sign, Outerwear, Team, Tourism, Costume, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What Happened When the Fab Five Met Gayle</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26911530/queer-eye-flix-season-4/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What We Know About Queer Eye Season 4 " data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="4" tle="4" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What We Know About Queer Eye Season 4 </span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><p data-no-id="5" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">This didn’t disurage him om followg his dreams and eventually openg <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="his own home sign pany" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">his own home sign pany</a> 2006. Berk—who left home at age 15 and lived a r and iends’ basements after g out as gay—ed his experienc to htle. “I thk I’ve gotten fired om every job I’ve ever had. I learned that workg for myself was somethg I need to do. It’s not that I have a problem wh thory, I am jt always lookg for new ways to do thgs,” he tells </p><p data-no-id="7" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">While Berk’s reer path has been que wdy (there was a stt at Applebee’s along the way), he eventually got st <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="on " class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">on </a><em><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">Queer Eye</a></em>, where he lends his sign eye to transform the hom of the subjects (a.k.a. hero) the Fab Five have ma over for three seasons. On the show, he dish words of affirmatn while puttg the fish touch on reworked kchens or spced-up bedrooms. He also don’t shy away om reuntg his journey toward acceptance as a gay man. (<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="He’s married to a man named Dewey" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">He’s married to a man named Dewey</a>, who mostly stays out of the public eye.)</p><style data-emotn="css 1736von">{--data-embed-display:flex;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;clear:both;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;marg-bottom:0.9375rem;marg-left:to;marg-right:to;width:100%;}@media(m-width: 20rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 73.75rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 75rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 90rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}} a span{right:1rem;} img{width:to;height:85vh;} a{display:-webk-le-box;display:-webk-le-flex;display:-ms-le-flexbox;display:le-flex;posn:var(--posn, relative);} img:not(.ewcw41w1){display:block;width:100%;height:to;-webk-align-self:flex-start;-ms-flex-em-align:flex-start;align-self:flex-start;}</style><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="8" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><style data-emotn="css uwraif">{width:100%;display:-webk-le-box;display:-webk-le-flex;display:-ms-le-flexbox;display:le-flex;-webk-flex-directn:lumn;-ms-flex-directn:lumn;flex-directn:lumn;marg-left:to;marg-right:to;-webk-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webk-jtify-ntent:center;jtify-ntent:center;}</style><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="3" tle="3" loadg="lazy" width="1500" height="1000" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><style data-emotn="css swqnqv">@media(m-width: 20rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 73.75rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 75rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 90rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}</style><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><style data-emotn="css 1am3yn9">{paddg-left:0rem;le-height:1;}</style><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-bdkd9 e6iqd2">Christopher Smh/Netflix</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="9" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">“Growg up, I went to church every day and was told that gays were an abomatn and bad,” he says. “The first group of LGBTQ people to embrace me, at 16, was the drag muny. There was a ltle bar lled Martha’s Veyard and at one pot I was dog drag. This was before cellphon. That’s where I found the most acceptance and love. I eventually moved around a lot, but I’m lucky to have found my chosen fay—and a lot of alli.”</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">If you’re wonrg, his drag name was Jsi Grant. “If I were to do aga, would I e up wh a better name? Y,” Berk jok.</p><style data-emotn="css 10klw3m">{height:100%;}</style><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="11" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><style data-emotn="css 63r9na">{-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webk-jtify-ntent:center;jtify-ntent:center;m-height:10rem;background-lor:#F5F5F5;lor:#000;-webk-flex-directn:lumn;-ms-flex-directn:lumn;flex-directn:lumn;height:100%;marg-bottom:0.9375rem;}</style><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><style data-emotn="css 1msakm2">{width:3.125rem;height:3.125rem;}</style><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><p data-no-id="12" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We ught up wh the <em>Queer Eye</em> star—who recently lnched <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0"></a> and llaborated wh<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn=" A.R.T Furnure" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0"> A.R.T Furnure</a> as well as <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Value Cy Furnure" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">Value Cy Furnure</a>—to get the real behd-the-scen tea. </p><hr data-no-id="13" class="css-18pb4rg et3p2gv0" /><style data-emotn="css 1m6q79k">{font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:normal;letter-spacg:-0.005em;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.875rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:2.125rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;font-size:2.375rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:2.625rem;le-height:1.1;}} b, strong{font-fay:her;font-weight:bold;} em, i{font-fay:her;font-style:alic;}</style><h2 data-no-id="14" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Everyone wants to know how long tak to makeover a home on <em>Queer Eye</em>.</h2><p data-no-id="15" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I really do get the home on a Tuday afternoon and have to have back by Friday morng. There’s a lot of planng and I go out to the cy which we film about two weeks before the other boys. </p><h2 data-no-id="16" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Is that to fd the loft you all live ?</h2><p data-no-id="17" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We don’t live ! We film there. We love each other, but no. The funny thg is we never unrstand why people thk we live there. We’ve never tried to make be perceived, but you’d be amazed at the amount of people that thk we live there. People send pictur of themselv ont of the loft like, are you guys home? Absence mak the heart grow fonr, but when we’re wh each other all day, we need to have our own space at night. </p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="18" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Furnure, Table, Room, Interr sign, Chair, Floor, Wood, Floorg, Hardwood, Stg, " tle="Furnure, Table, Room, Interr sign, Chair, Floor, Wood, Floorg, Hardwood, Stg, " loadg="lazy" width="1500" height="2164" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-bdkd9 e6iqd2">A.R.T. Furnure</span></figptn></div></div></div><h2 data-no-id="19" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">So take me through what you’re workg on advance.</h2><p data-no-id="20" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We work wh partners for suppli and applianc. I’ll say to Samsung, for example, we need six reigerators on standby. It all go to a big warehoe that we treat as a store through the season, makg easy for to pull off the shelv as I sign. I’m not there layg down floorg, and some episos I’m more volved than others. I have two teams of four people, and we have a nstctn pany that works wh . One week, I’ll be signg wh one team while I’m stallg wh another. I tst my teams whole-heartedly so I didn’t have to be on the ground the middle of the renovatn as much as before. </p><h2 data-no-id="21" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">How long are the days?</h2><p data-no-id="22" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Tudays are very long bee ’s our ambh day. We meet the hero for the first time, which tak all morng through the afternoon. Then we start our renovatn. I’m ually there until the evengs. Wedndays and Thursdays are also renovatns, but ’s field trips, meang I eher go shoppg wh a hero, or teach them a lson on workg wh furnure. Friday is our reveal day. Dependg on how big the sign project is, we sometim don’t have back to them until around noon, so filmg days n go until six or seven. </p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="23" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a27891399/jonathan-van-ns-non-bary-genr-non-nformg/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ns Is “Non-Bary"" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Facial hair, Beard, Ch, Motache, Technology, Se, Electronic vice, " tle="Facial hair, Beard, Ch, Motache, Technology, Se, Electronic vice, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ns Is “Non-Bary"</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26977833/queer-eye-fab-five-vio-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Watch Queer Eye's Fab Five Play "In Our O-Pn"" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Team, Communy, Event, Photography, Fay, Tourism, " tle="People, Social group, Team, Communy, Event, Photography, Fay, Tourism, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Watch Queer Eye's Fab Five Play "In Our O-Pn"</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/life/a23601818/queer-cultural-appropriatn-fn/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What Is Queer Appropriatn? An Explanatn" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Performance, Event, Performg arts, Sgg, Backg volist, Mic artist, Mic, Talent show, Song, Mil theatre, " tle="Performance, Event, Performg arts, Sgg, Backg volist, Mic artist, Mic, Talent show, Song, Mil theatre, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What Is Queer Appropriatn? An Explanatn</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><h2 data-no-id="24" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What have been some of the biggt mishaps?</h2><p data-no-id="25" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">In season three—the mpgrounds episo—a huge storm happened on Tuday. It knocked over tre, power l, so we had no A/C and no lights. We have to pat and rip out stuff via flashlights and iPhon. In season two—the episo wh Mayor Ted Terry om Clarkston, Geia—we found massive term and had to rip out way more than expected. We also pre-orred a bunch of furnure and none of showed up. We ran around for two days beggg stori Atlanta to let take stuff off the floor. Luckily, Wt Elm has two stor there and they let clean them out. </p><h2 data-no-id="26" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Twter fans love to joke about how much work your area of expertise—sign—requir pared to that of the other Fab Five guys. What’s like to see those reactns and be pegged as an unsung hero?</h2><p data-no-id="27" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Is my job more labor tensive? Y, that’s jt the nature of the beast. I didn’t go to lnally thkg that wasn’t gog to be. But, my job isn’t any more important than theirs. Our show wouldn’t be what was whout every sgle tegory and genre—whout Karamo figurg out what’s wrong on the si, Antoni teachg them good life lsons wh okg, Tan and Jonathan teachg them to love themselv aga and that the way they are is perfect, and me makg sure they don’t fall back to a t at home. People are like, ‘Oh, Bobby mt be really pissed and angry!’ And I’m like, ‘I’m not!’ I was a signer before this, and I knew what my role was gog to the show. </p><h2 data-no-id="28" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Have you ever had a hero be unhappy wh the way you transformed their space?</h2><p data-no-id="29" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Not once. </p><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="30" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><h2 data-no-id="31" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What lsons have you learned about yourself as a rult of <em>Queer Eye</em>?</h2><p data-no-id="32" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I n’t do everythg. I’ve always been that person that tri to do everythg and don’t ask for help. I’ve learned to ask for help sce we have so much gog on—and I’ve foced on hong my strengths and weakns. </p><h2 data-no-id="33" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">We talked about the many tim you were fired. Did you ever doubt you’d bee succsful?</h2><p data-no-id="34" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We all have moments of feat, pecially g om a small town. I dropped out of high school my sophomore year, didn’t go to llege, don’t have a GED. There’s always that the back of your md tellg you that you’re not enough and that you aren’t as good as everyone else and you’ll never make , but you n’t listen to . </p><p data-no-id="35" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">You’ve always got to believe yourself and not take no for an answer. And anytime I would get a t like that I would jt nvce myself that I would do more and keep gog. Most of have suffered om prsn and ’s a real thg. It n affect you, but you jt have to keep believg yourself, even if no one else do. Never give up that hope.</p><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="36" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><h2 data-no-id="37" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">You’ve stggled wh prsn?</h2><p data-no-id="38" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I’ve fely suffered prsn my whole life. It’s somethg that my blogil mother has as well, and my blogil sister. When the show me out, put me to a kd of dark prsn that I wasn’t expectg to be . All of a sudn you are tapulted onto a world stage and you have lns and lns of people pickg you apart and judgg you. It was a lot at the begng and took me a ltle b of time to figure out how to al wh that. </p><p data-no-id="39" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">People thk, ‘Your guys’ liv mt be amazg and you mt be so happy!’ It n actually be kd of hard on all of . It’s a lot of prsure, pecially when you—to a certa extent—reprent a mory. To make sure that we’re always reprentg our LGBTQ peers and our fay the bt way possible and makg sure that no actn that we do never back negative on our muny, that’s a lot of prsure. </p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="40" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a23133219/pl-oprah-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="RuPl on What 'Drag Race' Can Teach the World" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="pl-oprah-terview" tle="pl-oprah-terview" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">RuPl on What 'Drag Race' Can Teach the World</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a27888200/pl-talk-show-fox-statns-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="RuPl Discs New Talk Show and LGBTQ Rights" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Pk, Televisn program, Event, Conversatn, " tle="Pk, Televisn program, Event, Conversatn, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">RuPl Discs New Talk Show and LGBTQ Rights</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><h2 data-no-id="41" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Did you receive feedback after the show aired that was particularly paful? </h2><p data-no-id="42" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I get a lot of feedback that I am the dud of the group. Oh, he’s not the star. And n be hard sometim bee we film for 40 hours or more a week. You get to see 45 mut of . To have gone my whole life thkg of myself as an outgog person—not thkg that I wasn’t enough—to then get reviews that ma me feel like I wasn’t enough or good enough was probably one of the thgs that brought on the prsive state as well, feelg that I’m a failure at this. </p><h2 data-no-id="43" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What have you done wh those reviews?</h2><p data-no-id="44" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">In seasons one and two, I was like, ‘No. I’m not gog on a field trip wh the boys bee I’m workg on the hoe.’ Then they premiered and I was like, ‘I’m not on as much bee I’m workg too much!’ As much as we try not to, we measure ourselv by social media—and took a while for all of to stop focg on that and lookg at our phon every five sends and parg. 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He was let go om a job as sign manager at Rtoratn Hardware the early 2000s for accintally edg the time at which his employe clocked and out (“I actually got fired om RH while Tom Felicia was downstairs filmg the origal <em>Queer Eye</em>”), and he was let go om Bed, Bath, and Beyond “bee I faxed my rume to Wt Elm.” Uh-oh.</p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="4" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css y6rgkz">{borr:th solid #CDCDCD;borr-bottom:th solid black;borr-left:0;borr-right:0;borr-top:th solid black;borr-width:0.75rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;marg-top:1.875rem;paddg:0.625rem 0 0.25rem;}@media(max-width: 73.75rem){{marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{marg-top:2.5rem;marg-bottom:2.5rem;}}</style><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><style data-emotn="css whsy2b">{borr-bottom:th solid black;display:block;font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:500;letter-spacg:0.1em;marg:0rem;marg-bottom:0.3125rem;paddg-bottom:0.625rem;text-transform:upperse;}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.2;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.3125rem;le-height:1.2;}}</style><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 8lle59">{max-width:lc(100% - 120px - .625rem);}</style><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><style data-emotn="css c4s2gi">{paddg:0rem;marg:0rem;list-style:none;}</style><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><style data-emotn="css 1b7ml99">{font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;paddg-top:0.9375rem;}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:1.125rem;le-height:1.2;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.2;}}{borr-bottom:th solid black;paddg-bottom:1.25rem;} a{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;lor:her;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;} a:hover{lor:#595959;} a>img{borr-radi:0.1875rem;}</style><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><style data-emotn="css 1bn7a5e">{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-directn:row;-ms-flex-directn:row;flex-directn:row;-webk-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webk-jtify-ntent:flex-start;jtify-ntent:flex-start;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;}</style><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26899312/flix-queer-eye-fab-five-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye Is Actually Makg Ameri Great Aga" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 1l0u1">{marg-right:0.625rem;height:to;}</style><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Eyewear, Fun, Fashn sign, Photography, Photo shoot, Style, " tle="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Eyewear, Fun, Fashn sign, Photography, Photo shoot, Style, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Queer Eye Is Actually Makg Ameri Great Aga</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26950553/queer-eye-fab-five-gayle-kg-meetg/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What Happened When the Fab Five Met Gayle" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Fun, Fashn sign, Outerwear, Team, Tourism, Costume, " tle="People, Social group, Fashn, Event, Fun, Fashn sign, Outerwear, Team, Tourism, Costume, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What Happened When the Fab Five Met Gayle</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26911530/queer-eye-flix-season-4/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What We Know About Queer Eye Season 4 " data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="4" tle="4" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What We Know About Queer Eye Season 4 </span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><p data-no-id="5" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">This didn’t disurage him om followg his dreams and eventually openg <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="his own home sign pany" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">his own home sign pany</a> 2006. Berk—who left home at age 15 and lived a r and iends’ basements after g out as gay—ed his experienc to htle. “I thk I’ve gotten fired om every job I’ve ever had. I learned that workg for myself was somethg I need to do. It’s not that I have a problem wh thory, I am jt always lookg for new ways to do thgs,” he tells </p><p data-no-id="7" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">While Berk’s reer path has been que wdy (there was a stt at Applebee’s along the way), he eventually got st <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="on " class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">on </a><em><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">Queer Eye</a></em>, where he lends his sign eye to transform the hom of the subjects (a.k.a. hero) the Fab Five have ma over for three seasons. On the show, he dish words of affirmatn while puttg the fish touch on reworked kchens or spced-up bedrooms. He also don’t shy away om reuntg his journey toward acceptance as a gay man. (<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="He’s married to a man named Dewey" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">He’s married to a man named Dewey</a>, who mostly stays out of the public eye.)</p><style data-emotn="css 1736von">{--data-embed-display:flex;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;clear:both;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;marg-bottom:0.9375rem;marg-left:to;marg-right:to;width:100%;}@media(m-width: 20rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 73.75rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 75rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}}@media(m-width: 90rem){{width:100%;marg:0 to 0.9375rem;}} a span{right:1rem;} img{width:to;height:85vh;} a{display:-webk-le-box;display:-webk-le-flex;display:-ms-le-flexbox;display:le-flex;posn:var(--posn, relative);} img:not(.ewcw41w1){display:block;width:100%;height:to;-webk-align-self:flex-start;-ms-flex-em-align:flex-start;align-self:flex-start;}</style><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="8" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><style data-emotn="css uwraif">{width:100%;display:-webk-le-box;display:-webk-le-flex;display:-ms-le-flexbox;display:le-flex;-webk-flex-directn:lumn;-ms-flex-directn:lumn;flex-directn:lumn;marg-left:to;marg-right:to;-webk-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webk-jtify-ntent:center;jtify-ntent:center;}</style><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="3" tle="3" loadg="lazy" width="1500" height="1000" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><style data-emotn="css swqnqv">@media(m-width: 20rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 30rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 40.625rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 73.75rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 75rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}@media(m-width: 90rem){{paddg-left:0rem;}}</style><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><style data-emotn="css 1am3yn9">{paddg-left:0rem;le-height:1;}</style><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-bdkd9 e6iqd2">Christopher Smh/Netflix</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="9" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">“Growg up, I went to church every day and was told that gays were an abomatn and bad,” he says. “The first group of LGBTQ people to embrace me, at 16, was the drag muny. There was a ltle bar lled Martha’s Veyard and at one pot I was dog drag. This was before cellphon. That’s where I found the most acceptance and love. I eventually moved around a lot, but I’m lucky to have found my chosen fay—and a lot of alli.”</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">If you’re wonrg, his drag name was Jsi Grant. “If I were to do aga, would I e up wh a better name? Y,” Berk jok.</p><style data-emotn="css 10klw3m">{height:100%;}</style><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="11" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><style data-emotn="css 63r9na">{-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webk-jtify-ntent:center;jtify-ntent:center;m-height:10rem;background-lor:#F5F5F5;lor:#000;-webk-flex-directn:lumn;-ms-flex-directn:lumn;flex-directn:lumn;height:100%;marg-bottom:0.9375rem;}</style><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><style data-emotn="css 1msakm2">{width:3.125rem;height:3.125rem;}</style><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><p data-no-id="12" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We ught up wh the <em>Queer Eye</em> star—who recently lnched <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0"></a> and llaborated wh<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn=" A.R.T Furnure" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0"> A.R.T Furnure</a> as well as <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Value Cy Furnure" class="body-lk css-9cezh6 et3p2gv0">Value Cy Furnure</a>—to get the real behd-the-scen tea. </p><hr data-no-id="13" class="css-18pb4rg et3p2gv0" /><style data-emotn="css 1m6q79k">{font-fay:Juana,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:normal;letter-spacg:-0.005em;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:1.875rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(max-width: 64rem){{font-size:2.125rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;font-size:2.375rem;le-height:1.1;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{font-size:2.625rem;le-height:1.1;}} b, strong{font-fay:her;font-weight:bold;} em, i{font-fay:her;font-style:alic;}</style><h2 data-no-id="14" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Everyone wants to know how long tak to makeover a home on <em>Queer Eye</em>.</h2><p data-no-id="15" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I really do get the home on a Tuday afternoon and have to have back by Friday morng. There’s a lot of planng and I go out to the cy which we film about two weeks before the other boys. </p><h2 data-no-id="16" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Is that to fd the loft you all live ?</h2><p data-no-id="17" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We don’t live ! We film there. We love each other, but no. The funny thg is we never unrstand why people thk we live there. We’ve never tried to make be perceived, but you’d be amazed at the amount of people that thk we live there. People send pictur of themselv ont of the loft like, are you guys home? Absence mak the heart grow fonr, but when we’re wh each other all day, we need to have our own space at night. </p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="18" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Furnure, Table, Room, Interr sign, Chair, Floor, Wood, Floorg, Hardwood, Stg, " tle="Furnure, Table, Room, Interr sign, Chair, Floor, Wood, Floorg, Hardwood, Stg, " loadg="lazy" width="1500" height="2164" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-bdkd9 e6iqd2">A.R.T. Furnure</span></figptn></div></div></div><h2 data-no-id="19" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">So take me through what you’re workg on advance.</h2><p data-no-id="20" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We work wh partners for suppli and applianc. I’ll say to Samsung, for example, we need six reigerators on standby. It all go to a big warehoe that we treat as a store through the season, makg easy for to pull off the shelv as I sign. I’m not there layg down floorg, and some episos I’m more volved than others. I have two teams of four people, and we have a nstctn pany that works wh . One week, I’ll be signg wh one team while I’m stallg wh another. I tst my teams whole-heartedly so I didn’t have to be on the ground the middle of the renovatn as much as before. </p><h2 data-no-id="21" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">How long are the days?</h2><p data-no-id="22" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Tudays are very long bee ’s our ambh day. We meet the hero for the first time, which tak all morng through the afternoon. Then we start our renovatn. I’m ually there until the evengs. Wedndays and Thursdays are also renovatns, but ’s field trips, meang I eher go shoppg wh a hero, or teach them a lson on workg wh furnure. Friday is our reveal day. Dependg on how big the sign project is, we sometim don’t have back to them until around noon, so filmg days n go until six or seven. </p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="23" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a27891399/jonathan-van-ns-non-bary-genr-non-nformg/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ns Is “Non-Bary"" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Facial hair, Beard, Ch, Motache, Technology, Se, Electronic vice, " tle="Facial hair, Beard, Ch, Motache, Technology, Se, Electronic vice, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ns Is “Non-Bary"</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a26977833/queer-eye-fab-five-vio-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Watch Queer Eye's Fab Five Play "In Our O-Pn"" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="People, Social group, Team, Communy, Event, Photography, Fay, Tourism, " tle="People, Social group, Team, Communy, Event, Photography, Fay, Tourism, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Watch Queer Eye's Fab Five Play "In Our O-Pn"</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/life/a23601818/queer-cultural-appropriatn-fn/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="What Is Queer Appropriatn? An Explanatn" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Performance, Event, Performg arts, Sgg, Backg volist, Mic artist, Mic, Talent show, Song, Mil theatre, " tle="Performance, Event, Performg arts, Sgg, Backg volist, Mic artist, Mic, Talent show, Song, Mil theatre, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">What Is Queer Appropriatn? An Explanatn</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><h2 data-no-id="24" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What have been some of the biggt mishaps?</h2><p data-no-id="25" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">In season three—the mpgrounds episo—a huge storm happened on Tuday. It knocked over tre, power l, so we had no A/C and no lights. We have to pat and rip out stuff via flashlights and iPhon. In season two—the episo wh Mayor Ted Terry om Clarkston, Geia—we found massive term and had to rip out way more than expected. We also pre-orred a bunch of furnure and none of showed up. We ran around for two days beggg stori Atlanta to let take stuff off the floor. Luckily, Wt Elm has two stor there and they let clean them out. </p><h2 data-no-id="26" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Twter fans love to joke about how much work your area of expertise—sign—requir pared to that of the other Fab Five guys. What’s like to see those reactns and be pegged as an unsung hero?</h2><p data-no-id="27" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Is my job more labor tensive? Y, that’s jt the nature of the beast. I didn’t go to lnally thkg that wasn’t gog to be. But, my job isn’t any more important than theirs. Our show wouldn’t be what was whout every sgle tegory and genre—whout Karamo figurg out what’s wrong on the si, Antoni teachg them good life lsons wh okg, Tan and Jonathan teachg them to love themselv aga and that the way they are is perfect, and me makg sure they don’t fall back to a t at home. People are like, ‘Oh, Bobby mt be really pissed and angry!’ And I’m like, ‘I’m not!’ I was a signer before this, and I knew what my role was gog to the show. </p><h2 data-no-id="28" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Have you ever had a hero be unhappy wh the way you transformed their space?</h2><p data-no-id="29" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Not once. </p><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="30" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><h2 data-no-id="31" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What lsons have you learned about yourself as a rult of <em>Queer Eye</em>?</h2><p data-no-id="32" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I n’t do everythg. I’ve always been that person that tri to do everythg and don’t ask for help. I’ve learned to ask for help sce we have so much gog on—and I’ve foced on hong my strengths and weakns. </p><h2 data-no-id="33" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">We talked about the many tim you were fired. Did you ever doubt you’d bee succsful?</h2><p data-no-id="34" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">We all have moments of feat, pecially g om a small town. I dropped out of high school my sophomore year, didn’t go to llege, don’t have a GED. There’s always that the back of your md tellg you that you’re not enough and that you aren’t as good as everyone else and you’ll never make , but you n’t listen to . </p><p data-no-id="35" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">You’ve always got to believe yourself and not take no for an answer. And anytime I would get a t like that I would jt nvce myself that I would do more and keep gog. Most of have suffered om prsn and ’s a real thg. It n affect you, but you jt have to keep believg yourself, even if no one else do. Never give up that hope.</p><div data-embed="stagram" data-no-id="36" class="embed align-center css-10klw3m ez8lbhw1"><div class="css-63r9na ez8lbhw0"><img data-dynamic-svg src="/_assets/sign-tokens/e/static/ins/social/;id=lk-out-embed" loadg="lazy" alt="stagram in" height="to" width="to" class="css-1msakm2 ez8lbhw2" /><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" href=" aria-label="View full post on Instagram" class="css-0 e1c1bym14">View full post on Instagram</a></div></div><h2 data-no-id="37" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">You’ve stggled wh prsn?</h2><p data-no-id="38" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I’ve fely suffered prsn my whole life. It’s somethg that my blogil mother has as well, and my blogil sister. When the show me out, put me to a kd of dark prsn that I wasn’t expectg to be . All of a sudn you are tapulted onto a world stage and you have lns and lns of people pickg you apart and judgg you. It was a lot at the begng and took me a ltle b of time to figure out how to al wh that. </p><p data-no-id="39" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">People thk, ‘Your guys’ liv mt be amazg and you mt be so happy!’ It n actually be kd of hard on all of . It’s a lot of prsure, pecially when you—to a certa extent—reprent a mory. To make sure that we’re always reprentg our LGBTQ peers and our fay the bt way possible and makg sure that no actn that we do never back negative on our muny, that’s a lot of prsure. </p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="40" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><asi class="css-y6rgkz e6pr2lz5"><h6 class="css-whsy2b e6pr2lz3"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a23133219/pl-oprah-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="RuPl on What 'Drag Race' Can Teach the World" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="pl-oprah-terview" tle="pl-oprah-terview" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">RuPl on What 'Drag Race' Can Teach the World</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-1b7ml99 e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv-movi/a27888200/pl-talk-show-fox-statns-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="RuPl Discs New Talk Show and LGBTQ Rights" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Pk, Televisn program, Event, Conversatn, " tle="Pk, Televisn program, Event, Conversatn, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">RuPl Discs New Talk Show and LGBTQ Rights</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><h2 data-no-id="41" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">Did you receive feedback after the show aired that was particularly paful? </h2><p data-no-id="42" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I get a lot of feedback that I am the dud of the group. Oh, he’s not the star. And n be hard sometim bee we film for 40 hours or more a week. You get to see 45 mut of . To have gone my whole life thkg of myself as an outgog person—not thkg that I wasn’t enough—to then get reviews that ma me feel like I wasn’t enough or good enough was probably one of the thgs that brought on the prsive state as well, feelg that I’m a failure at this. </p><h2 data-no-id="43" class="body-h2 css-1m6q79k et3p2gv0">What have you done wh those reviews?</h2><p data-no-id="44" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">In seasons one and two, I was like, ‘No. I’m not gog on a field trip wh the boys bee I’m workg on the hoe.’ Then they premiered and I was like, ‘I’m not on as much bee I’m workg too much!’ As much as we try not to, we measure ourselv by social media—and took a while for all of to stop focg on that and lookg at our phon every five sends and parg. 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