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That means rethkg what unts as “art history.”</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset ContentHearContributorImage-cvjZXn epCAJC"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa ContentHearContributorImage-cvjZXn epCAJC rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 80w" siz="66px"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 90w" siz="66px"/><img alt="" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></span><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH hdWCIC byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd bCbgyH gnILss byle__preamble">By 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From group shows like Oakland Mm of California’s <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>Queer California: Untold Stori</em></a> to sgle artist exhibns such as the Queens Mm’s <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>Nilas Moufarrrege: Regnize My Sign</em></a>, mm curators have spent the past few years rurrectg LGBTQ+ artists and narrativ that have long been ignored by mastream art history. Even this summer’s Costume Instute’s pop blockbter, <a href="><em>CAMP: Not on Fashn</em></a>, traced the athetic origs of this cidly queer satiril style to classil Gre-Roman nus and the opulence of Versaill.</p><p>Revisg art history to clu more LGBTQ+ artists and experienc isn’t easy. It requir more than simply reassertg the prence of artists who were targets of phobic censorship. Art historians mt al wh the ever-evolvg termology for queerns, begng wh the solidifitn of the divisn between heterosexualy and homosexualy at the turn of the 20th century. Many artists, particularly before Stonewall, would not — or uld not — have even intified as LGBTQ+, even though they reprented same-sex sire or genr-nonnformg inti their art. Likewise, due to the historil policg of queer liv and the need to rema vert, many signifint works are more private, hidn away personal archiv and llectns rather than major mms.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>“Wrg queer culture to the history of art means redrawg the l of what unts as art, as well as what unts as history,” explas Richard Meyer, the Robert and Ruth Halper Profsor Art History at Stanford Universy, the preface to his and Cathere Lord’s book <em><a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Art & Queer Culture</a>.</em> Though origally released 2013, the send, revised edn <em>Art & Queer Culture</em> was published this year at the height of tert queer art. A survey om 1885 until the prent, the book b well-known visual artists like Andy Warhol wh activist materials and more private forms of art makg, cludg scrapbooks and amatr photography, to act as an example of how an alternative queer art history might be produced.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>In celebratn of Queer History Month, <em>them.</em> spoke wh Meyer on how reevaluatg LGBTQ+ art history requir a different approach, how mms are currently revisg overlooked artists, and how today’s ntemporary artists are engagg wh queer art history.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="3g9gz"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="9qpmzb"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Rick Gerharter Photograph of Stop AIDS Now or Else protters blockg the Goln Gate Bridge 1989." class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="(SANOE)" srcSet="(SANOE) 120w, (SANOE) 240w, (SANOE) 320w, (SANOE) 640w, (SANOE) 960w, (SANOE) 1280w, (SANOE) 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnText-bHjzlu iUEiRd kvieLQ iXWezO ptn__text">Rick Gerharter, <em>Photograph of Stop AIDS Now or Else (SANOE) protters blockg the Goln Gate Bridge</em> , 1989.</span></div></figure><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="agku1"></div></div><p><strong>In the preface to the first edn of <em>Art & Queer Culture</em>, you observe that producg queer art history “means searchg for cracks the partn that separat ‘high’ art om ‘low’ culture and the divi between public achievement and private life.” Why?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Sometim wh the history of queer culture, we only have private works, and that’s all that uld be produced. Thgs happened private, but they’re still a part of history. And that means retrievg the private materials, and givg them the rpect that is ually rerved for high art. <em>Art & Queer Culture</em> was the first time Phaidon published a book wh imag not unrstood or tend as art by the maker. Along wh fe art, there are activism posters, bar murals, anonymo photographs, works by amatr photographers like <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Alice Aten</a>, scrapbooks, etc. Sometim the were created not only for the dividual maker, but also for their immediate circle of iends, lovers, and others.</p><p>For example, there’s an credible scrapbook om Atralia the 1930s by a woman named Monte Punshon. Every time there was a woman acplished sports, a woman cross-drsed such as Marlene Dietrich, or an androgyno woman a newspaper, she’d clip the picture, and add to her scrapbook. While she was clippg om mastream newspapers, she created a world wh that scrapbook of entirely butch and androgyno women. She not only created an all-female world, but a world anized by her sir. She would never have lled herself an artist, but she ed creative rourc we ually thk about terms of art.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eoUd"><p>"I like the ia that sometim queer history is vented history. Even some of the stori that are told about Stonewall fall to this tegory. It seems that everyone has their own versn of what happened. If you want to believe a fact-based history, ’s a distortn, but on the other hand, ’s also not, bee the stori that are told bee part of history too. "</p></div></asi><p><strong>You mentn works created for an immediate circle of iends and lovers, as well as Phon disverg butch athetics straight newspapers. That remds me of the d referenc to queerns that exist many historil works. 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body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>It’s not exclive to queer culture, but I do thk has a particular special value and history. Not only the sense that the reprentatn is absent so you have to read agast the gra, or look at unrground materials, but there’s also s like mp. Camp is largely about objects that weren’t tend to be mp, but later beme so bee they’re ed or received by a mostly queer dience. You’re lookg for moments of genr or sirabily that are so flamboyant, non-normative, or excsive that they ronate, and that is about the viewer. One of the thgs I fd spirg about queer art a historil ntext is how ventive people were the ways they reworked imag and other cultural materials that were never meant to be affirmative of queerns. It’s productive and eful as a means of securg, or at least imagg an alternative form of embodiment, genr, or sexualy.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Nilas Moufarrege" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnText-bHjzlu iUEiRd kvieLQ iXWezO ptn__text">Nilas Moufarrege</span><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of the Queens Mm</span></div></figure><p><strong>Why do you thk LGBTQ+ art history has largely been overlooked until more recently? 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I thk eher you have to know the s, or if ’s regnized, then ’s censored and supprsed by mastream culture. Wh Robert Mapplethorpe, for example, Jse Helms and the Christian Right durg the Culture Wars even exaggerated the sexual explicns of his photographs orr to attack them. So work has historilly had to be so end that only a select circle of queers will get , or until recently, would be attacked.</p><p><strong>You say “until recently,” and do seem as if historil queer artists are beg newly redisvered by mms and other stutns. Do you thk there’s more of an tert today queer and trans artists and art history?</strong></p><p>What appears mm exhibns and llectns is only a actn of the story, but I do thk you’re right. There’s a lot more attentn paid to the histori. For example, I wrote about the Metropolan Mm of Art’s restallatn of their 20<sup>th</sup> century Art sectn for <em>ArtFom.</em> Not only did they mix Amerin art and European art, which they ed to separate sce Amerin art was seen as ls important, but there’s now also queer history and queer cultural productn reprented wh a sectn on Pl Cadm, Jared French, and Gee Platt Lyn. While they wouldn’t have intified themselv as queer — or even publilly gay or homosexual at the time — bee there was no way to do so the 1930s, they certaly ma homoerotic art.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I do thk there’s a sire for queer and trans voic now. But even wh an creased tert, ’s still not pletely accepted. People are still bullied and killed. There are many plac the world where queerns is unspeakable. I never want to thk homophobia or transphobia have been overe, jt like racism and sexism haven’t been overe. The art world is not reprentative of the natn or the world. There are, though, possibili for queer artists that simply didn’t exist the last century.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Helen Ntor Tony and Alan are Rearg Tony's Son Jon 1 977. Gelat silver prt H 9.375 W 9.5 . 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class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Do you thk this reevaluatn of queer art history is fluencg today’s ntemporary artists? How?</strong></p><p>That was one of the reasons we published <em>Art & Queer Culture</em>. We want other people to see the richns of this culture the hop that this history will be able. In our culture generally, we’re barraged by the now. It’s hard to be historil when you n’t even keep up wh the prent moment. What I want as a queer art historian is to retrieve this cultural history to try to put dialogue wh the ntemporary moment. Not so people n thk, “Oh, that’s over,” but to see as a rource. The historil moment n be an alternative for how thgs are anized now, and maybe eful for imagg other kds of possibili.</p><p>I don’t thk there are as many — or at least as many as I’d like — artists lookg toward the queer history of the early 20<sup>th</sup> century. That beg said, there are some ntemporary artists drawg on history. There’s <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Andrea Geyer</a>, a lbian artist who has done projects about queer women the art world who have been wrten out of the history of art, some of whom worked at MoMA. Another example of someone very mted to queer and trans history is <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Chris E Vargas</a> wh the <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mm of Transgenr Hirstory & Art (MOTHA)</a>. He created an alternative mm of trans history and art bee there is none. It’s not necsarily what we thk of artists dog (makg objects), but stead, ’s a kd of historil retrieval that’s both rearch and creative.</p><p><strong>One of my favore aspects of MOTHA is that Vargas clus imaged or fictnal historil objects and narrativ bee wh queer and trans histori, you have to tangle wh signifint absenc the rerds.</strong></p><p>I like the ia that sometim queer history is vented history. Even some of the stori that are told about Stonewall fall to this tegory. It seems that everyone has their own versn of what happened. If you want to believe a fact-based history, ’s a distortn, but on the other hand, ’s also not, bee the stori that are told bee part of history too. The stori are what make post-Stonewall culture. I love that about queer culture. It’s not all based factual claims, but the power of the imagatn to create thgs that weren’t there the moment.</p><p><em>This terview has been nnsed and eded for length and clary.</em></p><p><em><strong>Get the bt of what's queer.</strong></em> <a href=">Sign up for our weekly newsletter here.</a></p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="h34fbs"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid 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rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="This Art Exhibn Transforms Lbian Archiv Into a Powerful O to Queer History" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX gPBNpL bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Culture</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM dVrbhU summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk--unrle-disable" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-2" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href="/story/shame-is-the-first-betrayer" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ kBFaWv summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">This Art Exhibn Transforms Lbian Archiv Into a Powerful O to Queer History</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY dHMSJg summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH ecFEgL byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span 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SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg bDvSkO summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Lou Sullivan's Diari Show the Transformative Power of Queer History" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl clSLtF summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX gPBNpL bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Culture</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM dVrbhU summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk--unrle-disable" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-3" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href="/story/terview-we-lghed--pleasure-lou-sullivan" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ kBFaWv summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf gxaOcP" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Lou Sullivan's Diari Show the Transformative Power of Queer History</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi hYsZi summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY dHMSJg summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH ecFEgL byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ 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