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The arguments the four s are available at <a href=">this lk</a>. Note that the last se listed the lk, <em>DeBoer v. Snyr</em> (om Michigan), was actually the first one heard. The stg judg were Jefey S. Sutton (appoted by Print Gee W. Bh), Martha Craig Dghtrey (Clton appotee), and Debra L. Cook (also a GWB appotee). Now that I’ve listened to all three hours, and if oral argument is any gui, I thk the Sixth Circu is likely to reject the claims for same-sex marriage and marriage regnn a spl cisn. Most media acunts (see <em>New York Tim</em> story <a href=">here</a> and the <em>Post</em> acunt <a href=">here</a>) also characterize the Court’s cisn as a toss-up leang toward rejectn of the nstutnal arguments for same-sex marriage, wh Judge Dghtrey a very likely vote to strike down bans on same-sex marriage, Judge Cook a likely vote to uphold the bans, and Judge Sutton stg the middle but mostly cril of the claims. If anythg, I’m a b more nfint that the Sixth Circu will reject the claims than some observers seem to expect.</p></div></div><div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">First, I thk Judge Sutton is most apt to accept the view that the Supreme Court’s 1972 summary refal to hear an appeal  <em>Baker v. Nelson</em>, a se which the Mnota Supreme Court rejected a same-sex marriage claim, is still bdg on lower urts. The ma argument agast that view has been that signifint doctral chang sce 1972 have erod the precential thory of <em>Baker</em>. Sutton suggted that he thought thgs were a b murky, but that lower urts were probably still bound by . If that’s the basis for his opn, uld actually be a que brief cisn simply rejectg the claims as preclud by <em>Baker</em>. It would then avoid all of the difficulti cidg the substantive mers of the same-sex marriage claims, like whether there’s a fundamental right to marry, or whether sexual-orientatn discrimatn should be subject to heightened scty, or whether there’s anim state nstutnal amendments, or whether there’s even a ratnal basis for laws limg marriage to oppose-sex upl. If <em>Baker</em> ntrols–a ncln all of the other feral urts have rejected sce <em>Wdsor–</em>then the Sixth Circu is bound by regardls of the mers. The Supreme Court, of urse, will not be so hibed and any opn along the l by the Sixth Circu would be a parenthetil a footnote the history of the s. If same-sex marriage advot are gog to lose the Sixth Circu, as appears likely, the least harmful loss would be one ground on <i>Baker</i>.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="db dn-ns mr-neg-gutter ml-neg-gutter mb-md hi-for-prt" data-qa="subscribe-promo"><div data-orientatn="horizontal" role="separator" class="wpds-c-dbVHzF wpds-c-dbVHzF-hDkAcj-variant-flt"></div><a class="pt-sm pb-sm flex ems-center bold font-xxxs font-xxs-ns jtify-center" href=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" style="lor:#166dfc;borr:none"><svg class="ntent-box" width="24" height="24" viewBox="0 0 24 24" xmlns=" aria-hidn="te" focable="false" role="img"><tle>Wp</tle><path d="M11.055 8.728l-1.018-1.019-.782.782v6.292l1.782 1.564.018-.019v-7.6zm-4.11.236L5.674 7.71l-.836.855v6.237l1.545 1.327.564-.636V8.964zm2.656 9.074l-2.528-2.182-1.927 2.182-2.619-2.255v-3.564h-.509c-.454 0-.672.273-.745.636H1.09a2.89 2.89 0 0 1-.091-.69c0-.473.2-1.71 1.527-1.71V7.691c0-1.073-.709-1.127-.709-2.054 0-1.037.982-2 2.782-2.637l.164.145c-.6.291-1.09.655-1.09 1.437 0 1.2 1.163.89 1.163 2.782v.727l2.127-2.236 2.237 2.2 2.109-2.2 2.036 2v6.728l-3.745 3.455zm11.108-9.625l-1.073-.982-.964 1.018v6.6c.855.11 1.491.4 2.019.964l.018-.018V8.413zm-2.382.418l-.528.545v10.237l.528.492V8.83zm1.49 9.055c-.308-.382-.69-.709-1.145-.836v3.782l-.036.018-1-.927-2.11 1.945-.036-.018V16.96c-.636.145-1.327.545-1.854 1.2l-.146-.091c.127-1.4.818-2.436 2-2.837v-3.545h-.382c-.527 0-.89.363-.963.763h-.219c-.054-.145-.127-.381-.127-.836 0-.891.6-1.564 1.582-1.564h.11V8.085l-.655-.582-.51.51-.254-.237 2.018-2.073 1.71 1.564V9.05l.527-.564v-2.09h.345v1.727l2.273-2.419L23 7.576v7.91l-3.182 2.4z" fill-le="evenodd"></path></svg><span class="mr-xs ml-xs gray-darkt flex ems-center">Get the full experience.<span class="ml-xs subs-theme blue">Choose your plan</span></span><svg class="ntent-box" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 16 16" xmlns=" style="fill:#166dfc" aria-hidn="te" focable="false" role="img"><tle>ArrowRight</tle><path d="M7.664 1.25l6 6a1 1 0 010 1.414l-6 6L6.25 13.25 10.499 9H2V7h8.585L6.25 2.664 7.664 1.25z" fill-le="nonzero"></path></svg></a><div data-orientatn="horizontal" role="separator" class="wpds-c-dbVHzF wpds-c-dbVHzF-hDkAcj-variant-flt"></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Send, if the mers are reached, Sutton appeared ready to le agast the platiffs (though this is more doubtful). He seemed que sympathetic to the policy arguments for same-sex marriage, but didn’t embrace the argument that the fundamental right to marry clus same-sex upl. He also doubted that there wasn’t at least a ratnal basis for existg marriage laws. He also leaned toward the view (although aga this isn’t certa) that Sixth Circu precent preclud a holdg that anti-gay discrimatn is spect.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">The most tertg exchang occurred on the qutn whether a state’s tert procreatn was ratnally related to limg marriage as the stat have. The stat’ view was that havg a maral stat for oppose-sex upl advanc the tert enuragg procreatn (an <em>cln</em> <em>amg</em>). The opposg view is that excludg same-sex upl do not advance the state’s tert procreatn bee heterosexual upl’ procreatn isn’t affected by whether gay upl n marry (an <em>excln </em><em>amg)</em>. At least one of the state’s attorneys nced that excludg same-sex upl did not further the state’s procreatn tert but sisted this fact should not affect the ratnal-basis analysis. The ncln then pends on how the ratnal-basis qutn is amed: cln v. excln. I thk ’s fair to say that there are ratnal-basis s supportg both ways of amg the qutn.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">A uple of odds and ends om the arguments: Judge Sutton repeatedly prsed same-sex marriage attorneys on whether would be better to pursue the e through legislatur and popular vot. As a matter of strategy, ’s a fair pot that a few of have repeatedly ma over the years. But once ligatn begs–and there’s no central mtee makg strategy choic–’s not the role of judg to renr opns based on their advice about how a movement might bt achieve s goals. (This is distct om the Burkean pot that judg should be humble about social change and about the nfince wh which they make important cisns nstutnal-law s.)</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">A related rponse is the one ma platively by the lawyer for the same-sex upl. Reprentg a man whose hband’s Oh ath certifite did not rerd their marriage, he argued that human digny required regnn now. “It’s the last rerd of a person’s life on this Earth,” he said, and the rerd was wrong about one of the most important stat one n have. “Allow the men to rt peace.” When Sutton said that would be better to allow change to proceed over time as has, the Oh lawyer’s voice gaed an urgency. “I reprent four upl. Their kids serve two parents. 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6th circuit gay marriage case

A supposed requt for a webse for a same-sex weddg played a mor role a major clash between ee speech and gay rights at the Supreme Court.

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WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT A SEEMGLY FAKE DOCUMENT A GAY RIGHTS CASE

Three feral appeals judg are hearg arguments about gay marriage bans Oh, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennsee * 6th circuit gay marriage case *

In 1981, the San Francis Board of Supervisors passed an ordance that allowed homosexual upl and unmarried heterosexual upl to register for domtic partnership, which also granted hospal visatn rights and other benefs.

ONE COURT, THREE JUDG AND FOUR STAT WH GAY MARRIAGE CAS

Bh that would outlaw same-sex marriag the whole untry, ten typilly nservative tat along wh Oregon enacted state-level bans on gay marriag.

In 2010, Massachetts, the first state to legalize gay marriage, found Sectn 3 of DOMA that fed marriage as a unn between one man and one woman to be unnstutnal, 2013, Uned Stat v. By 2015 (the year Obergefell was cid) thirty-six stat already issued marriage licens to same-sex upl and more than 20 unti around the world had already legalized gay marriage, startg wh the Netherlands 2000.

FIVE KEY ARGUMENTS LOOM GAY MARRIAGE SE

Judge Heyburn held that “homosexual persons nstute a quasi-spect class, ” and clared that Kentucky’s law banng same-sex marriag vlat the Equal Protectn Clse of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Uned Stat Constutn. Shift natn's attus puts gay marriage on path for Supreme Court.

CINCINNATI -- A feral appeals judge hearg arguments about gay marriage bans four stat says " don't look like the sky has fallen" other stat that allow same-sex Martha Craig Dghtrey ma the ment Wednday Ccnati as she and two other judg on the 6th U. Circu Court of Appeals qutned lawyers on both sis durg the biggt urt ssn yet of feral legal battl over gay marriage. Michigan's and Kentucky's s stem om lgs strikg down each state's gay marriage bans.

Oh's se als only wh the state's regnn of out-of-state gay marriag, while Tennsee's is narrowly foced on the rights of three same-sex upl. "About a dozen gay marriage opponents prayed the rosary outsi the urthoe.

APPEALS URT UPHOLDS MICHIGAN'S GAY MARRIAGE BAN

Supreme Court stck down part of the feral Defense of Marriage Act last year, gay marriage advot have won more than 20 victori feral urts. Constutnal law profsors and urt observers say the 6th Circu uld liver the first victory to gay marriage three judg hearg the se are Jefey S.

Bh, and Martha Craig Dghtrey, a pick of Print Bill is nsired the least predictable, shockg Republins 2011 when he beme the cidg vote a 6th Circu lg that upheld Print Barack Obama's landmark health re the 6th Circu cis agast gay marriage, that would create a divi among feral appeals urts and put prsure on the U.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* 6TH CIRCUIT GAY MARRIAGE CASE

Appeals urt upholds Michigan's gay marriage ban .

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