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The origal <em>Top Gun </em>is about a bunch of people who know how to fly very sophistited fighter jets but have not yet termed that they n wipe sweat off their own fac wh even ordary paper towels. <em>Top Gun</em> blew all the hell up the summer of '86 for a variety of reasons: the Reagan-era jgoism, Kenny Loggs’ “Danger Zone,” the absolute nscence of a young Tom Cise. It was a big, sweaty phenomenon. </p><style data-emotn="css 18vfmjb">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} em{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;}</style><p data-no-id="2" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">But <em>Top Gun</em> holds an entirely separate place some of our hearts. A few of walked to that multiplex and found ourselv exced ways our peers may not have been. Some of wnsed a moment that stayed our hearts forever. </p><p data-no-id="3" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">I speak, of urse, of the beach volleyball scene, a one mute and forty send sequence which a shirtls Tom Cise, Val Kilmer, and Rick Rossovich (pl a wisely shirtful Anthony Edwards) face off a high-stak pickup game to the sound of Kenny Loggs’ “Playg Wh The Boys.” My brother, ten years olr, married wh four kids now, took me to see <em>Top Gun</em> the summer of 1986. We left the theater exhilarated. “Man,” he said, “they oughta have a recment table outsi the theater.” “They really should,” I said, knowg down ep we were talkg about very different recment tabl. </p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">If you were a certa kd of teenage boy 1986, the beach volleyball scene <em>Top Gun</em> spoke directly to you. And what said was: “You’re gay now. 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It’s impossible to know how many actors are , asi om the on I’ve mentned, but film historians have placed the number as high as three. </p><p data-no-id="15" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Now, I have heard the volleyball scene <em>Top Gun</em> referred to as “homoerotic.” The volleyball scene is not homoerotic. The volleyball scene is homosexual. The volleyball scene is what circu parti have been tryg to be ever sce. (Or at least that’s what I’m told. I’ve never been to one, as I am a lifelong Anthony Edwards.) To have watched all of this unfold, on the big screen, right the middle of puberty, was simply not fair. I was outmatched. I knew which way my sexualy was gog already, this scene was far om my first klg, but nfirmed the whole suatn a way that was terrifyg and thrillg all at once. Every gay man wh ten years of my age will tell you the same thg. It didn’t rpt ; fact, the volleyball scene is the bt argument <em>agast</em> the whole “groomg” nversatn we’re havg. If other boys my age saw this movie and end up straight, as I unrstand lerally dozens have, then sexual orientatn is unniably an immutable characteristic. </p><p data-no-id="16" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">The volleyball scene didn’t make gay. It did make do phups. </p><p data-no-id="17" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><em>Top Gun: Maverick</em> will be released worldwi on May 27. Give the teenage boy your life the time and space to procs his own way. </p><p data-no-id="18" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><em>Dave Holm appears every prt issue of Esquire. 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MARVEL’S ICEMAN JT ME OUT AS GAY

Iceman out as gay to the world X-Men #14, and shows why he's an Omega level mutant the procs * iceman gay *

He almost cl, but then rensirs, offerg a personal ttimonial about the event and how relat to his own life as a gay the statement, Iceman explas that he ed to be ashamed not jt of his powers, but his sexualy, thanks to scty and bigotry om his peers.

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IN FACT, THE DITED WIKIPEDIA PAGE ONLY LISTS 99 SUPERHERO, OM ANY PUBLISHER... THAT'S PARISON TO MARVEL COMICS' PURPORTED 5,000+ CHARACTERS THE PUBLISHER TOUTED WHEN THEY WERE BOUGHT BY DISNEY BACK {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND WHEN YOU GET TO NAME BRAND, EASILY REGNIZABLE (READ: MOVIE) CHARACTERS? THE LIST PRETTY MUCH DROPS TO ZERO, UNLS YOU'RE A REALLY BIG NORTHSTAR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT'S WHY FANS REACTED SHOCK TO LEAKED PAG OM TOMORROW'S (APRIL 22) "ALL-NEW X-MEN #40," WHICH REVEAL THAT FOUNDG MEMBER OF THE X-MEN, ICEMAN, IS GAY. WE WON'T LK THE PAG HERE, BUT SUFFICE TO SAY BASED ON THE DIALOGUE -- WHERE JEAN GREY LETS ICEMAN KNOWS HE'S OVER-PENSATG WH SEXUALIZED REMARKS ABOUT FEMALE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM TO VER UP HIS HOMOSEXUALY -- 'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT ICEMAN IS 100%, FELY OUT OF THE CLOSET.MARVEL COMICSALL-NEW {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}COMPLITG MATTERS A WAY ONLY IC BOOKS N IS THAT THIS IS A VERSN OF ICEMAN OM BACK WHEN THE ICS FIRST LNCHED (MARVEL HAS A SLIDG TIMELE, SO WHILE TECHNILLY HE'S OM THE 1960S, ONLY A FEW YEARS HAVE PASSED IC BOOK TIME), WHO TRAVELED FORWARD TO "NOW" AND HAS MET HIS CURRENT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IN THE ISSUE, THE CHARACTERS EVEN WONR WHY, IF ICEMAN IS GAY, THAT HIS OLR SELF IS NOT. OR IS HE? AND HOW DID THIS STORY EVEN E ABOUT THE FIRST PLACE?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"WELL, BRIAN WROTE TO A SCRIPT," AXEL ALONSO, EDOR--CHIEF OF MARVEL COMICS TOLD MTV NEWS OVER THE PHONE. "HE'S BEEN TEASG AT FOR A WHILE, HE SENT ON TO HIS EDOR, WHO TURN SENT TO ME, AND WE STARTED A DISCSN."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AFTER BENDIS WAS "HONTLY PERSUASIVE" ON THE ISSUE, ALONSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE SNOW-POWERED X-MAN, PASSED UP THE CHA AND THE CISN WAS MA. "THAT'S THE WHOLE BORG PROCS. HE HAD A GOOD STORY TO TELL, AND WE THK 'S WORTH TELLG," ALONSO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IN RECENT YEARS, MARVEL HAS HAD A TREMENDO MMENT TO DIVERSY, AT LEAST WHEN TO THE CHARACTERS ON S PAG AND ANCHORG S TL. WHERE TRADNALLY ICS HAVE BEEN LED BY WHE MEN, RECENT YEARS THE PUBLISHER HAS ADD MULTIPLE FEMALE LEADS, REPLACED CAPTA AMERI WH HIS AIN-AMERIN SIKICK THE FALN, AND EVEN CREATED TWO CREDIBLY POPULAR MULTICULTURAL LEADS WH MIL MORAL ("ULTIMATE SPIR-MAN") AND KAMALA KHAN ("MS. MARVEL").{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}STILL, THE CISN TO HAVE ICEMAN E OUT OF THE CLOSET WASN'T, "EDORIAL EDICT," ME OM BENDIS' STORY... AND PARTICULAR THE SCENE THE BOOK THE WRER TURNED WAS WHAT SEALED THE AL.MARVEL COMICSALL-NEW {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"IT WAS OUR SUBSEQUENT NVERSATNS ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STORY WOULD BE THAT REALLY SOLD ME," ALONSO NTUED. "THIS IS A CHARACTER WH S OF HISTORY, AND ONE WHO WE'VE SEEN FALTER ON THE ROMANTIC STAGE -- MORE THAN ONCE. SO THE SEEDS WERE ALWAYS THERE."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IN FACT, THE PLAN WASN'T TO CREATE A FLURRY OF PRS OR BIG HEADL (AS HAS HAPPENED TODAY), BUT TO JT LET THE STORY SPEAK FOR SELF. INSTEAD, THE PAG LEAKED, AND NOW MARVEL IS ALG WH THE REACTN... THOUGH ACRDG TO ALONSO, THE REACTN HAS BEEN "OVERWHELMGLY POSIVE."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NATURALLY, WH OUTG A PROMENT CHARACTER LIKE ICEMAN, THERE WAS NCERN. "EDORS ARE PAID TO HAVE THEIR SPIR-SENSE TGLE," ALONSO SAID, LGHG. "BUT WHAT YOU DO IS YOU THK THGS THROUGH. [BUT] X-MEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ULTIMATE PLAYGROUND TO SEE GROWG PAS, AND WHAT MEANS TO BE DIFFERENT. THIS IS ONE MORE SHADG OF THOSE STORI."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ALONSO ALSO NOTED THAT AS THE STORY NTU "UNNNY X-MEN #600," THE STORY BENDIS IS TELLG IS, "VERY SENSIVE, VERY MOVG, I THK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOG TO RPOND TO THIS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SPEAKG OF SENSIVY, OTHER THAN THE LACK OF HOMOSEXUAL CHARACTERS ON THE PAGE, THE TREATMENT OF THE FEW LGBT CHARACTERS ICS HAVE HASN'T BEEN THE MOST SENSIVE. OFTEN WHEN A CHARACTER OUT, THAT BE THEIR FG CHARACTERISTIC, STATG, "I'M GAY," OR MENTG ON A MEMBER OF THE SAME SEX'S ATTRACTIVENS EVERY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FOR ICEMAN'S NEW-FOUND SEXUALY, THIS ARCHAIC PRACTICE WILL GO THE WAY OF THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"WE LOOK AT THIS AS BEG ONE SHADG OF WHO HE IS," ALONSO SAID. "I THK, PERSONALLY THAT IS GOG TO EPEN THE CHARACTER, AND HUMANIZE HIM EVEN FURTHER, AND MAKE FOR FASCATG STORI. BY THAT I AM NOT SAYG YOU ARE NOT GOG TO REGNIZE BOBBY DRAKE ANYMORE. IF YOU WERE A FAN OF BOBBY DRAKE BEFORE, IF YOU RED ABOUT HIM, I THK THIS WILL DRAW YOU CLOSER TO THE CHARACTER, NOT PH YOU AWAY OM HIM."MARVEL COMICSALL-NEW {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ALONSO ADD TO THIS THAT, SPE THE CHARACTER'S EQUENT APPEARANCE ONSCREEN THE "X-MEN" MOVI, THIS IS SOMETHG THAT IS PURELY A IC BOOK CISN, AND DIDN'T NEED TO BE N BY FOX OR MARVEL STUDS -- OR ICEMAN ACTOR SHAWN ASHMORE, WHO ALONSO JOKED HE DIDN'T HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"OUR CISNS MA PUBLISHG ARE MA PUBLISHG," ALONSO ADD. "WE'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THE LATU. WE HAVE A FEMALE THOR, AND AT THE SAME TIME, 'AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON' IS G OUT. WE'RE PAID TO NOVATE, CREATE AND LET OUR STORI TAKE TO NEW PLAC... AND THE MOVIE STUDS N FOLLOW AS THEY CHOOSE."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT TIME TRAVEL. AS MENTNED, PLITG MATTERS IS THAT THE YOUNG ICEMAN IS OFFICIALLY GAY, WHILE THE OLR, NOW ICEMAN IS NOT. AT LEAST NOT OFFICIALLY. {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"WE WOULD BE FOOLISH NOT TO AL WH THAT," ALONSO SAID. "THAT WAS THE SEND PART OF MY NVERSATN WH BRIAN. TIME TRAVEL GAVE A PLATFORM TO DISVER THE JOURNEYS OF THE YOUNG CHARACTERS. THE OBV QUTN IS THAT ONCE THE YOUNG BOBBY DRAKE HAS ACCEPTED AND EMBRACED WHO HE IS, WHAT ARE THE RAMIFITNS FOR HIS ADULT UNTERPART? IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT WILL BE ALT WH."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND SE YOU WERE WONRG, WH MARVEL'S GIANT EVENT "SECRET WARS" G UP, WHERE THE ENTIRE MARVEL UNIVERSE IS SENTIALLY STROYED AND TURNED TO ONE MASH-UP PLA LLED BATTLEWORLD, NO, ICEMAN ISN'T GOG BACK THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"THIS IS WHO THE CHARACTER IS NOW," ALONSO SAID {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}"ALL-NEW X-MEN #40" IS ON SALE WEDNDAY, APRIL 22 OM MARVEL COMICS. "UNNNY X-MEN #600" HS STOR ON MAY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}[NOTE: THE PAG HERE WERE PROVID BY MARVEL COMICS, AND ARE NOT THE LEAKED VERSNS.]{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

One of the most powerful mutants the Marvel universe has e out as a gay man. * iceman gay *

The Iceman story pag are drawn by Kris a prev issue, also drawn by Anka, a time-travelg young versn of Jean Grey read the md of young Iceman, llg him out for hidg that he’s “full gay. He talked about how he put that part of himself away for his entire life, and when he nsired lettg out, he would unsuccsfully try thgs to see if he was actually straight, which only nfirmed that he is gay.

FOR LGBT FANS OF X-MEN, ICEMAN COMG OUT AS GAY HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMG

Wh the return of his solo seri, the wrer Sa Grace says, Iceman will be “tryg to figure out how he n be a shg bean to the gay muny.” * iceman gay *

This edorial move mak one of Marvel's most inic and high-profile hero a gay man — a ttament to the pany's ongog missn to clu more diversy and make sure s ic books reflect the real world.

KNOWLEDGE WAS: THE POSSIBLE HTS OVER THE YEARS THAT ICEMAN IS GAY

Marvel Comics' 'All New X-Men' will reveal - and retn - Iceman (Bobby Drake) as a gay character. How will fans react? * iceman gay *

Wh younger Iceman beg gay, olr Iceman datg women, and Jean Grey llg "a unique suatn, " there was a qutn of whether the X-Men would ultimately get to the nature-vers-nurture bate — a story that uld get really msy.

"The fact that Ben has e out as homosexual is jt a small facet of who he is and what he is gog to brg to Cyclops’ select team of X-Men, " Marvel spokman Joe Taraborrelli told the Huffgton Post 2013. "I do fd fascatg that really wh the last 10 years and relatively recent tim, there's been a gay character clud most mastream edi and shows, which is great, " ic book wrer Mark Millar told me while talkg about his ic book Juper's Circle. The list pretty much drops to zero, unls you're a really big Northstar 's why fans reacted shock to leaked pag om tomorrow's (April 22) "All-New X-Men #40, " which reveal that foundg member of the X-Men, Iceman, is gay.

MARVEL COMICS OUTS X-MEN'S ICEMAN AS GAY

Marvel announced that an origal 'X-Men' character, Iceman, will reveal to his fellow X peers that he is gay an upg issue of 'All-New X-Men.' * iceman gay *

We won't lk the pag here, but suffice to say based on the dialogue -- where Jean Grey lets Iceman knows he's over-pensatg wh sexualized remarks about female members of the team to ver up his homosexualy -- 's pretty clear that Iceman is 100%, fely out of the closet. Complitg matters a way only ic books n is that this is a versn of Iceman om back when the ics first lnched (Marvel has a slidg timele, so while technilly he's om the 1960s, only a few years have passed ic book time), who traveled forward to "now" and has met his current the issue, the characters even wonr why, if Iceman is gay, that his olr self is not. Often when a character out, that be their fg characteristic, statg, "I'm gay, " or mentg on a member of the same sex's attractivens every Iceman's new-found sexualy, this archaic practice will go the way of the dodo.

I image that all the recent hubbub about Iceman g out as gay this week’s #40 issue of All New X-Men (and by hubbub I mean “Oh, Facebook Trendg updated self aga”) is tertg to ic book fans who grew up readg X-Men ics. However, some stanc rears may believe that this is a new velopment for Iceman, and that Brian Bendis is jt pullg the “gay” ticket out of the Box O’ Unique Character Tras whout any rpect for the character’s prev history.

THE ICEMAN ETH OUT: MARVEL FANS PROCS X-MEN'S GAY STORYLE

OK this is my first poll and I am try to see how many people want to vote on 616 iceman beg straight or gay ? * iceman gay *

And while Bobby’s homosexualy is only prent this story via implitn, that implitn may have been strong enough to fluence Bryan Sger when he nstcted this notable scene om X-Men 2:. Bryan Sger has spoken publicly that he feels that the experience of beg gay and g out is analogo to how mutants mt feel the X-Men universe when they “e out, ” and that the above scene is spired by that.

Ok, let me start this off by sayg none of this is me beg homophobic, you n choose to ll me that but judgg by the fact that some of my clost iends are part of the lgbtq muny go agast that.

‘X-MEN’ SUPERHERO ICEMAN COM OUT AS GAY NEW ISSUE

Marvel Comics' former 'Iceman' wrer Sa Grace penned an say scribg his algs wh Marvel and the obstacl he faced wrg a gay character. * iceman gay *

Now origally the were jt relatnships that me to an end like most real world relatnships, but him specifilly not beg bi means the relatnships were jt a gay guy so ep the closet he actively seeked out relatnships wh women who weren’t even terted him sometim, that’s jt prsg.

Although the news leaked earlier this week, All New X-Men #40, which hs store shelv today, ’s revealed by wrer Brian Michael Bendis that Iceman is gay, or at least the sixteen-year-old versn of Iceman that’s strand our time is gay. When young Bobby asks Jean how his olr self n be straight if he’s gay and they’re the same person, he seems to figure out pretty quickly for himself, as the followg panels show:.

Unls, of urse, you happen to be a gay rear, which se the bate about Bobby Drake’s sexualy has been gog on for years, at least sce the early days of the ter, and probably even before that. The reason is that Bobby Drake’s behavr regards to his romantic relatnships wh female characters jt feel like the awkward attempts at heterosexualy that so many gay men make when they’re ep nial.

‘X-MEN’ CHARACTER ICEMAN OUTED AS GAY

One of Marvel’s X-Men, Iceman, has fally accepted that he is gay a ic book seri that is breakg new ground for the genre. * iceman gay *

Bobby ends up wh the perfect beard for a closeted gay du: a betiful woman by his si, but one wh whom he don’t have to worry about ever havg physil timacy bee she nnot be touched.

While ’s great (and empowerg) to have gay characters who are out om the moment they appear on the ics page, like Hulklg or Batwoman, the tth is that there are lns of gay people who live years nial before admtg to anyone, and they n be hero too. Havg Marvel nfirm that Iceman is gay isn’t jt a chance for gay rears to scream that we were right all along — this is a fictnal character after all; we’re only right bee Marvel or, more to the pot, Brian Bendis, fally cid we were. So plans were ma for the hero — who tly stepped to the spotlight 2015, when he was revealed to be gay — to return, wh the announcement, ftgly, g durg Pri, who was first troduced by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby issue No.

One of the tertg aspects of young Iceman g out the most recent issue of All-New X-Men (and om the sound of Brian Michael Bendis' discsns of the topic, sure sounds like adult Iceman will be tchg up wh him, as well) is the notn that Iceman beg gay is somethg supported past ics.

SHOULD ICEMAN BE STRAIGHT OR GAY ?

Hontly, I don't thk the Cloud era is all that important to the overall "Hts that Bobby is gay" storyle, but people will always brg Cloud up, so I figure I might as well addrs . I believe her, but she said at the time that she was wrg him as as straight, but aga, she was VERY open to the possibily of him beg gay back then, so really isn't a big difference, I don't thk]. Today's issue of All New X-Men (#40) ntas the pivotal moment where Iceman/Bobby Drake (as a younger versn of himself) is rmed by Jean Grey that his thoughts reveal his homosexualy.

'X-MEN' IN ICEMAN COM OUT AS GAY

The scene plays out wh Bobby wonrg why his olr self (the one prent day X-Men ics) dated women for so long; he ponrs bi-sexualy before beg told, unequivolly, that he is fact gay. This is not the first time a character major ic books has been outed as gay: Alpha Flight's Northstar me out 1992, had a gay weddg when he joed the X-Men the 2000s, and even had a csh on Iceman at one pot ( was never acted upon...

ICEMAN IS GAY(NOT TROLLG)

If anythg, there uld be cynil qutn as to the choice of makg a character like Iceman to the gay reveal; 's not exactly as high-stak as makg, say, Wolvere, Cyclops, Mago or Prof. One of the origal X-Men is fally out of the closet – Iceman, turns out, was never to Zelda the wars , you know, that cisn to reveal that the Marvel Comics character is gay has ed nsternatn among fans – some of whom object to the suggtn that the character’s olr self, as picted elsewhere the current Utopians storyle, is somehow not gay.

”Kurt Biek, who has wrten stori about nearly everyone the Marvel universe and is somethg of an ad hoc superhero historian, said that there had been more than one se of characters, for whatever reason, never really havg a heterosexual relatnship and beg favor of the gay fan All-New X-Men #40, Marvel Girl nonts Iceman about his sexualy after readg his md.

WHY IS EVERYONE UPSTET ABOUT THE GAY ICEMAN?

Those motifs will be explored on a more real-world level when an origal X-Men character – Iceman, the igid alter ego of teenager Bobby Drake – will reveal to his peers that he is gay an upg issue of All-New X-Men. In the time-twistg issue of All-New X-Men, Jean Grey – the crew’s telepath – travels back time and reads the md of a young Iceman, revealg that he was gay when he was a teenager. “Maybe he uldn’t handle beg a mutant and gay a society that had issu wh both, and one is easier to ‘put away’ than the other, ” the olr Iceman says of his younger self before ultimately admtg that he is “full gay.

The “X-Men” seri of ics have long been progrsive terms of diversy, wh a black female character, Storm, appearg the 1970s, and the first gay mastream ic book character, Northstar (who later married the pag). Kid_Omega_Prime marked this as the bt answerBobby has always been a straight male, them changg him to gay for ntroversy's sake was pretty stupid and a slap the face to all of his, all five of them.

(but of urse that's the only reason Marvel do anythg the days) If Stan Lee wanted this for Iceman he would have picted him as gay the ics he wrote, stead of havg thought bubbl of him earntly sirg Jean Grey along wh the other origal X-Men. @acer51: If wrers stuck to what Stan Lee wanted for his characters, then Marvel would have died a long time have speculated/joked about Bobby beg a closet homosexual sce the early 90s. Lock them up and throw away the key, and then throw away the place where you threw the key, to some other place, like down a hole, and then throw that hole away too, and make sure that hole isn't some weird metaphor, bee you know what those muti are like, pecially the gay on, they will try to do anythg!

TODAY IMPERFECT REPRENTATN: ONE OF THE ORIGAL X-MEN JT CAME OUT AS GAY

No I don't want to add gay characters on my list bee I'm not gay so if marvel or dc mak a character gay or bi then I would half to remove that hero om my you were rernated as those characters, you wouldn't remember havg a preference for women your past life. No I don't want to add gay characters on my list bee I'm not gay so if marvel or dc mak a character gay or bi then I would half to remove that hero om my 's why even make the threads? @otanmgs: Sounds like a bad Sopa Opera or a CW has always been a straight male, them changg him to gay for ntroversy's sake was pretty stupid and a slap the face to all of his fans.

If a character is straight or gay, they would be straight or gay ALL the reali where they are blogilly the same 's a realy where Wolvere is gay and is a relatnship wh Hercul7 years ago.

I ULD ACCEPT HIM BEG BI, BUT NOT JT GAY

“It not only explaed Bobby, but epened his story and gave him an add dimensn, ” he April, X-Men rears learned that the younger Iceman was gay thanks, no small part, to the mental pryg by Jean Grey, a telepathic teammate. ” Sce then, many more gay, lbian and bisexual champns have been this turn of events, Iceman may be the most high-profile gay hero, though that n be like batg who is stronger, Thor or Superman?

DC Comics has a seri starrg Midnighter, a gay hero whose adventur clu an active sex life, and Harley Qun, a bisexual supervilla who has had relatnships wh the Joker and Poison those DC characters were troduced the 1990s.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* ICEMAN GAY

The Iceman eth out: Marvel fans procs X-Men's gay storyle | Marvel | The Guardian .

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