Roxane Gay: The Audacy - The Wheeler Centre

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• ROXANE GAY RPONDS TO MAMAMIA'S 'CEL AND HUIATG' ARTICLE
• ROXANE GAY LLS OUT ATRALIAN ‘FEMIST’ WEBSE FOR ‘CEL AND HUIATG’ TREATMENT
• ROXANE GAY ON HOW TO WRE ABOUT TRMAIN A NDID TERVIEW, THE NOVELIST, SAYIST, AND PROFSOR TALKS TO MONI LEWSKY ABOUT FDG A WAY TO WRE ABOUT TERRIBLE THGS, DOG DOUBLE DUTY ON THERAPY, AND HANDLG ALL FORMS OF CRICISM.BY MONI LEWSKYFEBARY 18, 2021BY REGALD CUNNGHAM.SAVE THIS STORYSAVESAVE THIS STORYSAVE“WE ARE WALKG WOUNDS, BUT I AM NOT SURE ANY OF KNOW QUE HOW TO TALK ABOUT ,” WR ROXANE GAY HER NEW SAY, “WRG INTO THE WOUND,” PUBLISHED ON SCRIBD. THE PIECE, SPIRED BY AN UNRGRADUATE WORKSHOP GAY TGHT AT YALE ON WRG TRMA, SCRIB GAY’S EXPERIENCE ATTEMPTG TO WRE ABOUT BEG GANG-RAPED AT AGE 12, FIRST FICTNAL STORI WRTEN AS A TEENAGER, “MELODRAMATIC AND OVERWROUGHT AND DARK AND GRAPHIC,” AND THEN, AS AN ADULT, WORK LIKE HER SAY LLECTN BAD FEMIST. “I WROTE AROUND ,” SHE WR OF THAT BOOK’S SCRIPTN OF THE ASSLT. “IN PART, I WAS PROTECTG MYSELF. I ULD ADM THIS THG HAD HAPPENED TO ME, BUT I WAS NOT READY TO SHARE THE TAILS.” FALLY, HUNGER: A MEMOIR OF (MY) BODY, GAY WROTE “DIRECTLY AND OPENLY ABOUT MY SEXUAL ASSLT, HOW CHANGED ME, HOW THAT ASSLT HAS HNTED ME FOR MORE THAN THIRTY YEARS.”IN HER NEW SAY, SHE SCRIB THE BOOK’S RECEPTN—OVERWHELMGLY POSIVE RPONS OM REARS, WHILE TERVIEWS WH SOME MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA RANGED OM MISRMED TO LLO—AND HOW THE EXPERIENCE OF WRG THE BOOK LED TO FURTHER QUTNS OF HOW TO PICT TRMA WRG. THE PIECE IS WELL HEWN BUT EXPANSIVE, EXPLORG THE WAYS WHICH WE REVEAL OURSELV THROUGH WRG—BY CHOICE, AS THE TAILG OF AN ASSLT, OR MORE OBLIQUELY, AS HOW A JOURNALIST SCRIB A PIECE OF WRG ABOUT AN ASSLT, AND THE WRER WHO EXPERIENCED .ROXANE AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A FEW YEARS AND, OF URSE, MY AWARENS OF AND ADMIRATN FOR HER WRG PREDATED THAT. I’M SURE FEW WOULD WONR WHY I WAS TERTED TALKG TO HER ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SAY—WHICH WE DID VIA A ZOOM LL OM OUR RPECTIVE LOS ANGEL HOM—ABOUT THE NUANCE AND TRICY VOLVED WRG ABOUT ONE’S TRMA FOR PUBLIC NSUMPTN.MONI LEWSKY: DID TEACHG THE URSE ON TRMA WRG CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW WE WRE ABOUT TRMA?ROXANE GAY: I DON’T KNOW THAT CHANGED MY THOUGHTS, BUT CERTALY EXPAND THEM AND HELPED ME VELOP A STRONGER UNRSTANDG. I THOUGHT OF THE CLASS AFTER ASKG MYSELF, HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT TRMA? AND HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT WELL? I HAD EDED AN ANTHOLOGY LLED NOT THAT BAD, A PILATN OF WOMEN WRG ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENC WH RAPE CULTURE. MOST OF THE SUBMISSNS WERE JT STRAIGHT TTIMONY. THEY WEREN’T SAYS. AND I WAS THE UNFORTUNATE POSN OF HAVG TO REJECT THE TLY PAFUL STORI THAT CLEARLY TOOK QUE A LOT FOR THE WRERS TO SUBM. IT GOT ME THKG, HOW DO WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TAKE A TRMA—WHETHER ’S THEIRS OR SOMEONE ELSE’S; A CULTURAL TRMA, LLECTIVE TRMA, SO ON—AND WRE ABOUT WAYS THAT N BE MORE THAN JT THARSIS? OVER THE URSE OF THE SEMTER MY STUNTS WERE REALLY ASTONISHG THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY APPROACHED THE TOPIC AND TRIED TO ANSWER THE QUTN I POSED TO THEM AT THE BEGNG OF THE SEMTER WHICH IS, “HOW DO WE WRE TRMA, AND HOW DO WE DO WELL?” IT REALLY HELPED ME TO FURTHER REFE MY THKG.DO “WRG TRMA WELL” FALL UNR THE TEGORY OF WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SAY IS “GOOD” WRG? OR DO WRG TRMA WELL MEAN THAT ’S EFFECTIVE A DIFFERENT WAY?THAT’S A GOOD QUTN, AND I THK A LOT OF THE TIME WHAT WE MEAN BY WRG WELL IS VERY SUBJECTIVE AND THERE N BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRERIA. FOR SOME PEOPLE, WRG ABOUT TRMA WELL MEANS THAT HELPS THEM WORK THROUGH SOMETHG. BUT IS THAT GOG TO BE WRG TRMA WELL FOR AN DIENCE? AND WHICH DIENCE? YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO THK THROUGH THE QUTNS AS YOU’RE WRG TRMA AND CI, WHAT IS YOUR END GOAL? AND WHAT ARE YOU GOG TO NSIR A SUCCS?I’VE WRTEN ABOUT MY TRMA AND WHAT ENDS UP FEELG MEANGFUL TO ME IS WHEN SOMEONE NNECTS WH A WAY THAT HELPS THEM. YOU HAD AN OUTPOURG OF THAT AFTER HUNGER. DID THAT MIGATE SOME OF THE EXPERIENC YOU WERE HAVG WH THE PRS? WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?IT WAS SURPRISG, BEE I DID NOT EXPECT THE BOOK TO RONATE WH AS MANY PEOPLE AS DID, AND WH AS MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT FAT. I JT THOUGHT, GREAT, I’M GOG TO REACH MY FAT BRETHREN, YAY. BUT LIVG A BODY IS HARD, NO MATTER WHAT THAT BODY LOOKS LIKE, AND NO MATTER WHAT THAT BODY’S ABILY IS. AND SO PEOPLE REALLY HAD A LOT TO SAY, AND I REALLY FELT I HAD DONE WELL, BEE SO MANY PEOPLE ME TO ME. BUT ALSO BEE CREATED A SMALL MEASURE OF CHANGE. NOW, ’S BEG TGHT MANY MEDIL SCHOOLS AND IS HELPG DOCTORS RETHK HOW THEY TERACT WH THEIR FAT PATIENTS AND HOW THEY TREAT THEIR FAT PATIENTS AND HOW THEY UNRSTAND THEIR FAT PATIENTS. AND THAT, FOR ME, WAS WHEN I KNEW I HAD DONE OKAY. BEE, THAT’S SUCH A REAL PROBLEM, FAT PHOBIA THE MEDIL PROFSN. AND SO MANY FAT PEOPLE GO UNDIAGNOSED WH ISSU THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SEEK TREATMENT FOR. BEG FAT IS NOT A CRIME. AND SO, IF THE MEDIL TABLISHMENT N CRIMALIZE FATNS A LTLE B, I WILL HAVE NSIRED MY LIFE A LIFE WELL LIVED.MY BT IEND OM LLEGE IS A PEDIATRICIAN, AND SHE READ HUNGER AND TOLD ME THAT PLETELY CHANGED HOW SHE TALKED TO ALL OF HER ADOLCENT PATIENTS AROUND THIS ISSUE.MY NFSN IS THAT HUNGER WAS TOO HARD FOR ME TO READ. I’VE STGGLED WH WEIGHT MY WHOLE LIFE AND WAS ALSO FAT-SHAMED PUBLICLY. IT OPENED UP THOSE TRIGGERS. BUT I DO WONR, DO YOU LIKE OR DISLIKE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT WAS BRAVE TO WRE SOMETHG LIKE THIS?MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYI HAVE TRIED TO E TO A PLACE OF PEACE ABOUT , BEE I DON’T FEEL BRAVE. AND SO FEELS LIKE PEOPLE ARE GIVG ME A REGNN I DON’T SERVE WHEN THEY SAY THAT. I DON’T THK ’S PARTICULARLY BRAVE TO WRE ABOUT YOUR REALY AND TO WRE ABOUT THE WAYS YOU’VE SUFFERED OR THE WAYS THAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED JOY. BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, I DO REGNIZE, GIVEN HOW TERRIFYG I FOUND TO WRE THE BOOK, THAT TOOK SOMETHG TO FALLY H SEND AND GIVE TO MY EDOR—AND I LAYED THAT FOR A YEAR, BEE I WAS SO OVERWHELMED BY THE PROSPECT OF EVEN STARTG THE BOOK. SO YEAH, THE END DID REQUIRE SOME BRAVERY. I TRY TO JT BE AS GRAC AS POSSIBLE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT BEE I DO REGNIZE ’S A PLIMENT AND THAT PEOPLE DON’T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF MY TERR ANGST. BUT I ALSO SOMETIM FD MYSELF QUALIFYG LIKE, “OH, I’M NOT BRAVE.”LIKE JT NOW?EXACTLY. EXACTLY LIKE THAT.YOU WROTE THE SAY, “HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT THE TRMATIC EXPERIENC OF OTHERS WHOUT TRANSGRSG THEIR BOUNDARI OR PRIVACY?"THAT’S A QUTN I THK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS GOG TO HAVE TO GRAPPLE WH, BUT I ALWAYS THK WE HAVE TO ERR ON THE SI OF RPECTG OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR LIV AND NOT PUTTG WORDS OR EXPERIENC TO THEIR MOUTHS THAT THEY HAVE NOT SHARED. I DON’T EVER WANT TO SUPPOSE THAT I KNOW ANYTHG ABOUT SOMEONE WHO’S EXPERIENCED TRMA, IF I HAVEN’T ASKED THEM ABOUT DIRECTLY. WE SEE ALL KDS OF SPECULATN. YOU’RE VERY FAIAR WH THIS. THE MEDIA WILL VENT STORI, WHOLE CLOTH.ACRDG TO THE TABLOIDS, I HAD AN ALIEN CHILD ONCE, YOU KNOW?OH, I DID NOT REALIZE. HOW ARE THEY DOG?WONRFUL. I’M GETTG THE TAX CRED.LUCKY! YEAH. IT’S WILD TO SEE WHAT WRERS N DO. I THK THAT AS LONG AS WE REGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO RPECT OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR LIV, EVEN IF WE’RE WRG ABOUT THEM, WE ARE GOG TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE’RE DOG A REASONABLY GOOD JOB OF WRG ABOUT THE TRMA OF OTHERS. I NEVER WANT TO -OPT SOMEONE’S EXPERIENCE, AND SO WHEN I WRE ABOUT THE TRMA OF OTHERS, I JT TRY TO BE REFUL. I TRY TO E MON SENSE. I THK, WOULD I WANT SOMETHG LIKE THIS WRTEN ABOUT ME? BEE HAVG HAD PEOPLE WRE ABOUT ME AND DO SO WAYS THAT ARE ACCURATE, OR JT WRONG, OR OFFENSIVE—I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS. I WOULD NEVER WANT ANYONE ELSE TO FEEL THAT WAY, AND SO I TRY TO BE REFUL. AND I THK IF EVERYONE WAS A LTLE MORE REFUL AND A LTLE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE CHOIC THAT THEY MAKE, WE ULD SPARE PEOPLE FURTHER TRMA.DO YOU FEEL FORTABLE TALKG PUBLICLY ABOUT THE HEALG MODALI THAT YOU’VE ED OR ARE G?OH YEAH, I’M VERY FORTABLE. I TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRE ABOUT MY SEXUAL ASSLT BEE I WASN’T READY, BEE I DIDN’T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW SOMETHG SO TIMATE AND SOMETHG SO PAFUL. AND THEN I STARTED TO THK, IT’S BEEN SO LONG. LET GO. AND SO, ONE OF THE THGS THAT GOT ME TO A PLACE WHERE I WAS ABLE TO WRE ABOUT AND OPEN MYSELF UP TO EVERYTHG EVABLY THAT WOULD RISE OUT OF WRG ABOUT WAS A THERAPY. AND A LOT OF READG AND SUPPORT GROUPS ONLE, AND THGS LIKE THAT. AND SO, I’M ACTUALLY WAY MORE FORTABLE TALKG ABOUT THE HEALG MODALI THAT I AM G THAN I AM TALKG ABOUT THE TRMA SELF. AND I’M FE TALKG ABOUT THE TRMA SELF. IT’S NOT THAT TERTG. IT HAPPENED, ’S OVER, AND Y, I’M STILL ALG WH THE REPERCSNS OF , BUT ’S NOT THAT TERTG.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYWHAT IS TERTG IS, FOR ME, IS JT HOW LONG TRMA N LGER AND HOW SOMETIM WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT YOU HAVE THE REMRS. AND THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE STUNNG THGS ABOUT LIVG THROUGH TRMA. TRMA POUNDS. IT JT SURPRIS ME WHERE I FEEL LIKE I’M DOG SOMETHG NORMAL, EVERYTHG IS OL, AND THEN SOMETHG HAPPENS AND ALL OF A SUDN NOTHG IS OKAY, EVERYTHG IS TERRIBLE AND I AM FALLG APART. AND THEN I HAVE TO PULL MYSELF BACK TOGETHER ALL OVER AGA.WE DON’T TALK A LOT ABOUT THE MSS OF REVERY, BEE PEOPLE LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT IS A NTAED AND DISCRETE EXPERIENCE. IT HAPPENS, ’S OVER, YOU HEAL, YOU MOVE ON. YOU HEAL, BUT SOMETIM THE WOUND REOPENS, AND HEALS AGA AND THEN REOPENS AND SR TISSUE VELOPS, AND SO ON. I TRY TO ALSO ACMODATE THAT MY WRG SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CLEAR THAT I’M NOT OFFERG YOU SOME SORT OF MAGIL SOLUTN. THIS IS NOT THERAPY. THIS IS JT A MEMOIR. IT IS AN ACUNTG OF A LIFE…. SO MANY PEOPLE WH TRMA FEEL LIKE THEY’RE FAILG BEE THEY HAVE A BAD DAY OR A BAD WEEK OR A BAD YEAR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU WAKE UP, YOU’RE NOT FAILG. IF YOU BSH YOUR TEETH, YOU’RE NOT FAILG. AND I THK IF WE JT HAVE SLIGHTLY MORE REALISTIC GOALS FOR OURSELV THAN PERFECTN, WE’LL BE OKAY.DURG THE PANMIC, AFTER THGS JT PLETELY WENT AWAY FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, PEOPLE FIGURED OUT THAT VIRTUAL EVENTS ARE VIABLE AND WORK STARTED POURG AGA. AND OF URSE, I WAS WRG ABOUT THE ELECTN, AND I HAD GOTTEN MARRIED, AND MY MOM HAS LUNG NCER. I HAVE A LOT GOG ON. I HAVEN’T HAD A CHANCE TO WORRY ABOUT MY OWN SH BEE THERE’S FIVE OTHER THGS THAT ARE HORRIBLE THAT I’M ALG WH AT THE SAME TIME. BUT ONE OF THE THGS THAT THE ISOLATN DID DO, THOUGH, WAS FORCE ME TO REGNIZE THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO WORK ON SOME THGS THAT I HAVE NOT WORKED ON PERSONALLY. I’VE KICKED UP THERAPY TO TWICE A WEEK NOW, AND THAT HAS BEEN VERY EFUL. I WAS VERY RISTANT, BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT ’S VERY EFUL TO GO TWICE A WEEK.OR A DOUBLE SSN.IT TAK ME A WHILE TO WARM UP AND I FD THAT AROUND MUTE 41 IS WHEN I REALLY WHEN I’M LIKE, “AND SO THEN HE STABBED ME.” AND THEN SHE’S LIKE, “WELL, WE GOT TO GO!” AND SO I HAVE FOUND THAT BEE EVEN THOUGH I’M STILL BY, I’M NOT TRAVELG, WHICH SAV SO MUCH TIME AND SO MUCH ENERGY THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DIRECT THAT ENERGY TO PRODUCTIVE THGS. AND ADDN TO THE CREASED ANXIETY OF IS HUMANY G TO AN END, SO ’S BEEN CHALLENGG. WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU, MONI?MY EXPERIENCE THE BEGNG OF THE PANMIC WAS THAT OLD TRMA MA REALLY CHALLENGG. IN THE FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS OF 1998, I ULDN’T GO OUTSI. SO, BEE OF THAT, UNLS I’M SICK, ’S RARE FOR ME TO NOT LEAVE MY HOE AT LEAST ONCE A DAY. Y, WE ULD GO FOR WALKS…BUT. THERE WAS A REAL CLSTROPHOBIC FEELG ABOUT QUARANTE FOR ME—THAT “HAVE TO STAY SI” MANDATE. AND THEN, TERMS OF POUND TRMA, I HAD JT STARTED DATG SOMEBODY AND LDA TRIPP DIED UNEXPECTEDLY. A LOT OF OLD TRMA KICKED UP.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYIT SURPRIS ME, ALL THE CREVIC THE PSYCHE WHERE TRMA N LURK. MY THERAPIST IS A TRMA PSYCHIATRIST AND SHE TALKS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE JT SAYG, THAT THERE’S SUCH A LONG ECHO OF TRMA. I’VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SOMETIM TRYG TO PREPARE FOR SOMETHG THAT I THK WILL BE TRMATIC, AND THEN ’S LIKE, SURPRISE! TRMA HAS S OWN WAY OF WANTG TO AL WH SOMETHG.AND S OWN AGENDA. I FD THAT WHENEVER I THK I’M PLANNG FOR HOW I’M GOG TO FEEL ABOUT SOMETHG, LIFE SURPRIS ME. THE MOST SURPRISG THG ABOUT HUNGER WAS NOT THE REAR RECEPTN, WAS THE WAY THE PRS ALT WH . I HAD ANTICIPATED AND MY BT IEND AND I HAD ACTUALLY SPENT SOME TIME TRYG TO IMAGE WHAT WERE THE WORST THGS THAT REPORTERS WERE GOG TO ASK ME? WHAT WERE THE WORST HEADL? WE END UP BEG RIGHT, AND THEN WAS WAY WORSE. IF I HAD KNOWN I WOULD’VE NEVER, EVER PUBLISHED THE BOOK. SO I’M GLAD A WAY THAT I DID NOT KNOW…. CULTURALLY, ’S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO LET GO OF THE SGULAR NARRATIV. AGA, THIS IS NOTHG YOU DON’T ALREADY KNOW. IT JT SURPRISED ME, I MT SAY. IT SURPRISED ME.BUT YOU DON’T REGRET PUBLISHG HUNGER, DO YOU?I DON’T REGRET . THE BOOK HAS DONE MORE GOOD THAN NOT.THERE’S A LOT OF TALK THE ANTI-BULLYG WORLD AROUND HOW MEDIA IS NOT VERY WELL TRAED AT TALKG ABOUT SUICI, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LANGUAGE WE E. DO YOU THK THAT THAT WAS A SIAR SE WH THE PEOPLE THE PRS—THAT THEY DIDN’T KNOW BETTER? OR THEY WERE GOG FOR CLICKBA, OR WAS THEIR UNNSC BIAS?I THK WAS ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND NOT EVERY TERVIEWER HAD ALL OF THE SAME MOTIVATNS. LIKE MIA FREEDMAN [FOUNR OF MAMAMIA, AN ATRALIAN WOMEN’S WEBSE, WHO HOSTED GAY ON HER PODST; “FREEDMAN WROTE A SCRIPTN OF THE SHOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST HUIATG THGS I HAVE EVER SEEN PRT ABOUT MYSELF,” GAY WR THE SAY. “I WAS STUNNED. BLDSID.”], SHE WAS JT ABOUT CLICKBA. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOG, AND SHE CLEARLY HAS ISSU AROUND FATNS AS WELL.I WROTE THE BOOK, AND THE KDS OF THGS THAT THE MEDIA WERE OBSSG ABOUT, I PUT THE BOOK. I KNEW THAT WAS GOG TO HAPPEN, BUT I JT DID NOT REALIZE THE ENTHIASM WH WHICH WAS GOG TO HAPPEN. PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCED TO WRE ABOUT MY HIGHT WEIGHT OVER AND OVER. FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS, THERE WAS NOT A PIECE OF PRS THAT DID NOT MENTN . AND I JT THOUGHT, WELL, OF URSE THEY WERE GOG TO DO THAT. AND YOU JT HAVE TO HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH. THERE’S NOTHG I ULD DO ABOUT .BUT WAS ALSO DISAPPOTG. WHEN SOMEONE LIKE TERRY GROSS, WHO I HELD PRR TO THIS REALLY, HIGH TEEM, BEE MY IENDS AND FAY REALLY HELD HER THE HIGHT TEEM—FOR SO MANY WRERS, THAT’S THE HOLY GRAIL. AND I’VE HEARD GOOD TERVIEWS WH HER, SO I WAS ACTUALLY EXCED TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE NVERSATN. AND THEN WHEN DIDN’T HAPPEN—OH, WAS HUGELY DISAPPOTG. [“SHE FIXATED ON MY HIGHT WEIGHT,” GAY WR OF HER EXPERIENCE THE SAY. “SHE WAS EPLY CUR ABOUT MY EATG HABS, ABOUT HOW I ULD SPEND SO MANY YEARS BEG SO FAT.”]MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYTHAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE TOO. I LEFT. I LEFT THE MIDDLE OF THE TERVIEW.I DID NOT HAVE THE CHUTZPAH TO DO SOMETHG LIKE THAT. BUT I WANTED TO. I WANTED TO JT LEAVE BEE I WAS SO HURT AND THEN MAD AT MYSELF FOR BEG HURT. AND THEN MAD AT MYSELF FOR NOT BEG PREPARED, TO NOT EXPECT THAT THIS WAS GOG TO HAPPEN WH SOMEONE LIKE HER. BEE I JT THOUGHT SHE WAS BETTER THAN THAT. AND SHE WASN’T.I HAD DIFFERENT TRMAS, YOUNGER YEARS, ADOLCENCE, AND THEN OBVLY THE ON EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT. I THK THERE WAS A TENNCY AS A YOUNGER PERSON TO TURN THE BLAME BACK ON MYSELF. DO YOU THK THAT’S PART OF THE TRMA OF WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED WH TERRY?I THK WAS A LOT OF THAT. WHY WAS I NOT PREPARED? WHY DID I EXPECT ANY BETTER OM PEOPLE? AND WHY DID I WRE THE BOOK? I TOOK ALL THE BLAME ON MYSELF. WHY ULD I NOT GET MY WEIGHT UNR NTROL, SO THAT I DIDN’T HAVE TO WRE THE BOOK? I ULD GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO: WHY WAS I BORN? IT N BE A REALLY SLIPPERY SLOPE OF SELF-BLAME AND SELF-LOATHG. I TRIED TO PULL MYSELF OUT OF AND REMD MYSELF, LIKE, THIS IS RADIL, BUT MAYBE I’M NOT THE PROBLEM.SOMEBODY TOLD ME THIS QUOTE A UPLE YEARS AGO AND ME TO MD AS I WAS READG YOUR SAY. IT’S OM THE FRENCH WRER ANDRé MALRX. “YOU DID NOT E BACK OM HELL WH EMPTY HANDS.”YOU KNOW, I’VE NEVER HEARD THAT SAYG BEFORE, BUT ’S AN TERTG THG AND ’S TE. YOU’RE NEVER GOG TO EMERGE OM A TRMA UNSTHED, AND AS MUCH AS WE’D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT HEALG IS A SORT OF A NEAT AND PLETE THG, THERE’S ALWAYS GOG TO BE BAGGAGE AND SRS. AND SOMETIM LERALLY CHANG WHO YOU ARE, WHICH N BE CHALLENGG.WHEN I TGHT THE CLASS, HAVG TGHT UNRGRADUAT BEFORE, I KNEW I WAS GOG TO HEAR ABOUT DIFFICULT EXPERIENC THAT THE STUNTS HAD ENDURED. AND SO I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT, BUT I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR HOW POWERFULLY THEY WERE ABLE TO WRE ABOUT THOSE EXPERIENC. AND I JT KEPT LOOKG, EACH WEEK, OUT AT THIS AMAZG GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND THKG, THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE THE STORI TO TELL…. IT WAS REALLY STRIKG TO ME TO REGNIZE THAT TRMA REALLY IS ONE OF THE GREAT EQUALIZERS. WE DON’T TALK ABOUT THAT ENOUGH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND WE HAVE MON GROUND BEE OF LOVE, WE ALL HAVE FAI, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. BUT ALSO, MOST OF HAVE ENDURED TRMA.I THK ’S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO REGNIZE THAT YOU SHOULDN’T BE RANKG OPPRSNS AND YOU SHOULDN’T BE RANKG TRMAS, BEE ’S NOT FAIR. I WASN’T A WAR-TORN REGN DURG A WAR, BUT THAT DON’T MEAN THAT MY TRMA DIDN’T HAVE A PROFOUND IMPACT ON ME. WOMEN TEND TO MIMIZE THEIR EXPERIENC AND THEIR TRMAS BEE WOMEN AL WH SO MANY TERRIBLE THGS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN SEX TRAFFICKED, YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GANG-RAPED BY SOLDIERS—I MEAN, THE LEVEL OF HORROR THAT THOSE POOR WOMEN CLEVELAND WHO WERE KEPT A HOE FOR SEVEN YEARS. I HAVE ENOUGH PERSPECTIVE TO REGNIZE WHAT I WENT THROUGH SUCKED, BUT WASN’T LIKE THAT.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYONE OF THE THGS THAT I DID REALIZE DURG CLASS, AND THAT I ALSO TRIED TO IMPART TO MY STUNTS, IS THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER MIMIZE YOUR TRMA. BUT I ALSO THK PERSPECTIVE IS CREDIBLY IMPORTANT, AND REGNIZG THAT THERE’S NOTHG PRODUCTIVE SAYG, “THAT WAS SO MUCH WORSE,” BUT THERE IS SOMETHG IMPORTANT REGNIZG THAT TRMA N BE POUND AND N LAST BEYOND IMAGG.IS THERE SOMETHG THAT YOU’VE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WH YOUR SAY THAT YOU HAVEN’T BEEN ASKED ABOUT OR THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED THAT DON’T GET HIGHLIGHTED ENOUGH?THE ONE THG THAT I DON’T THK IS HIGHLIGHTED ENOUGH, AND I THK THIS APPLI TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT KDS OF WRG, IS THAT PEOPLE UNRTIMATE THE CRAFT. SO MANY PEOPLE ASSUME THAT WHEN YOU’RE WRG ABOUT TRMA, WHEN YOU’RE WRG ABOUT MARGALIZATN, OPPRSN, WHATEVER, ANYTHG SORT OF NEGATIVE, THAT YOU’RE WRG ONLY OM EMOTN. AND ONE OF THE MA POTS I WAS TRYG TO MAKE, AND I DON’T KNOW THAT I ACTUALLY DID WELL THE SAY, BUT I WILL, WHEN BE A CHAPTER MY NEXT BOOK. PEOPLE UNRTIMATE THAT ’S A CRAFT. THAT WRG IS A JOB AND I’M NOT JT DOG TO EXORCISE MY MONS, I’M DOG TO ELIC A RPONSE OM THE REAR AND TO ACPLISH SOMETHG. AND I DO WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MECHANIL CHOIC THAT YOU MAKE TO WRE ABOUT ANYTHG, BUT TO WRE ABOUT TRMA PARTICULAR.I’M TERTED THAT.YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOUNDARI. AND BOUNDARI ARE THIS GREAT NTAER THAT WILL KEEP OUT THGS YOU DON’T WANT TO CLU, AND KEEP EVERYTHG ELSE. ONCE YOU HAVE BOUNDARI, YOU KNOW THAT YOU’RE NEVER GOG TO BE HARMED, AND YOU’RE NOT GOG TO E HARM, BY WHATEVER YOU’RE DOG BEE YOU RPECT YOURSELF ENOUGH TO HAVE THE BOUNDARI. IT’S IMPORTANT TO REGNIZE THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO DIVULGE EVERYTHG. YOU GET TO TERME HOW EXPLIC OR IMPLIC YOU WANT TO BE. SO MANY PEOPLE THK THAT IF I’M WRG ABOUT TRMA, I HAVE TO BE CREDIBLY EXPLIC AND I HAVE TO GIVE YOU EVERY GORY TAIL. YOU WANT TO THK ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOG TO PUT THE REAR TO YOUR EXPERIENCE, OR WHATEVER EXPERIENCE YOU’RE WRG ABOUT, SO THEY N REALLY UNRSTAND THE IMPACT OF . YOU HAVE TO START TO THK ABOUT THE CHOIC THAT YOU’RE MAKG TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF SCRIPTN AND THE KD OF SETTG AND THE WAY YOU SET UP AND TRODUCE WHATEVER YOU’RE WRG ABOUT TO THE PIECE. I REALLY WANTED TO GET MY STUNTS TO ALSO THK ADDN TO THE ETHIL QUTNS, JT MECHANILLY, HOW ARE YOU GOG TO DO THIS? IT HELPED A LOT OF THE STUNTS, BEE THEY HAD TO REGNIZE THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU GOG TO WRE THIS, YOU’RE GOG TO BE CRIQUED. AND YOU DON’T GET TO E THE TRMA AS A SHIELD OM CRIQUE. JT LIKE I ULDN’T E TRMA AS A SHIELD OM BOOK REVIEWS—NOR WOULD I. AND THAT IS A EFUL AMEWORK, PECIALLY THE REALM OF WRG.MORE GREAT STORI FROM VANY FAIR— COVER STORY: THE CHARMG BILLIE EILISH— KOBE BRYANT’S TRAGIC FLIGHT, ONE YEAR LATER— HOW THE PGA POLISHED OFF DONALD TMP— COULD THE MONARCHY “GO OVER A CLIFF” AFTER QUEEN ELIZABETH DI?— 36 ESSENTIAL ITEMS FOR RECREATG INIC BILLIE EILISH NAIL MOMENTS— INSI 2021’S CELEBRY-GOSSIP RENAISSANCE— WHAT WILL MELANIA TMP’S LEGACY BE?— FROM THE ARCHIVE: THE BRANT BROTHERS’ QUT TO CONQUER MANHATTAN— NOT A SUBSCRIBER? JO VANY FAIR TO RECEIVE FULL ACCS TO AND THE PLETE ONLE ARCHIVE NOW.MONI LEWSKY
• ‘I’LL ALWAYS BE A BAD FEMIST!’: ROXANE GAY ON LOVE, SUCCS – AND UPSETTG PIERS MAN
• ‘WE’RE NOT GIVG UP’: ROXANE GAY TALKS RACE, REPRENTATN AND THE POWER OF BLACK ART'BAD FEMIST' THOR ROXANE GAY SS DOWN WH THE POT’S RACHAEL HOCKG TO DISCS RACE RELATNS ATRALIA, TERSECTNAL FEMISM AND WHY MOVI LIKE BLACK PANTHER MATTER.ROXANE GAY SPEAKS TO NITV ABOUT BLACK LIV MATTER, TEARG DOWN STATU AND A WORLD WH NO POLICE. SOURCE: SUPPLIEDROXANE GAY HAS BEEN TO ATRALIA THREE TIM, BUT HER FIRST ENUNTER WH THE UNTRY’S INDIGENO PEOPLE 2015 ME BEFORE SHE’D EVEN STEPPED OFF THE PLANE.‘ARE THERE ANY BLACK PEOPLE ATRALIA?’ SHE TWEETED.THE REACTN WAS SWIFT: ‘ARE YOU SER?’ ‘JT WOW.’ SOME SIMPLY MENTED, ‘ODD’.THE TERPRETATN OF THE TWEET BY MANY WAS THAT GAY WAS ERASG THE EXPERIENC OF INDIGENO PEOPL A LONISED UNTRY.WELL, NOT SO. SPEAKG TO NITV DURG HER RECENT VIS GAY EXPLAED THAT SHE SIMPLY WANTED A HAIR RELAXER.“I WAS THKG ABOUT HOW I WAS GOG TO NEED TO GET MY HAIR DONE WHILE I WAS SYDNEY AND I WAS WONRG IF THERE WERE ANY BLACK PEOPLE OF AIN SCENT ATRALIA, AND I DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME THAT INDIGENO PEOPLE NSIR THEMSELV BLACK,” SHE SAYS.“I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE INDIGENO MUNY HERE, SO END UP BEG A GOOD THG.”“ATRALIANS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THIS NARRATIVE THAT ATRALIA IS A LAND EE OF RACISM”GAY RETURNED TO THE UNTRY MARCH FOR A DISCSN WH NSERVATIVE THKER AND SELF-TLED ‘FACTUAL FEMIST’ CHRISTA HOFF SOMMERS, AND ED THE TRIP TO LIVER SOME POTED OBSERVATNS ABOUT THE UNTRY’S RACE RELATNS.HER VIS CID WH A STATEMENT RELEASED BY QUEENSLAND SENATOR FRASER ANNG RPONSE TO THE CHRISTCHURCH MASSACRE. ANNG BLAMED MLIM IMMIGRATN FOR A MASSACRE PERPETRATED BY A WHE SUPREMACIST OM THE MID NORTH AST OF ATRALIA. THE SENATOR HAS SCE BEEN CENSURED A BIPARTISAN MOTN AND EXPELLED OM AN EXCLIVE QANTAS LOUNGE. BUT THAT HASN’T STOPPED THE DISGRACED SENATOR OM BEG ABLE TO REGISTER HIS OWN POLIL PARTY.“ATRALIANS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THIS NARRATIVE THAT ATRALIA IS A LAND EE OF RACISM,” GAY SAYS.“I FD THAT TO BE EXPLIBLE GIVEN THE VERY REAL STATISTICS THAT ARE NOT THE ONLY STORY ABOUT THE INDIGENO MUNY, BUT DO SPEAK TO HISTORIL EQUALI THAT ARE VERY MUCH AT PLAY RIGHT NOW.”THIS NIAL WAS ON FULL DISPLAY WHEN GAY APPEARED ON THE ABC’S Q&A PROGRAM LAST MONTH, SHE SAYS.  DURG THE PROGRAM, GAY'S -PANELIST AND LIBERAL PARTY VICE-PRINT TEENA MCQUEEN RPOND TO A QUTN OM WIRADJURI AND MāORI WOMAN LATOYA RULE, WHO SAID SHE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE RISE OF NEO-NAZISM HER HOME TOWN ALAI.MCQUEEN RPOND BY SAYG SHE DIDN’T “SEE THE GROWTH OF WHE SUPREMACISTS” AS A NCERNG ISSUE.“WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVG MUNI WHO ABSOLUTELY ENABLE AND UPLIFT WHE SUPREMACY,” GAY RPOND.“THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY OR THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHG, OR THEY ENGAGE THE NVERSATNS, AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE POT OUT, THEY JT SAY, 'WHAT ARE YOU TALKG ABOUT?'”GAY SAYS TO BRIDGE THAT UNRSTANDG, PEOPLE OF LOUR OFTEN ASSUME THE DUTY OF TG THE WIR MUNY.“THE REALY IS WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RRY WHE PEOPLE'S WATER," SHE SAYS."WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE THIS TIME OF TG THEM TIME AND AGA ABOUT THGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOG ON FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. AND YET HERE WE ARE.""OUR MUNI ARE GALVANISG"DPE THE VERY REAL ADVERSY BLACK MUNI THE UNED STAT AND ATRALIA ARE FACG RIGHT NOW, GAY SAYS SHE IS ENURAGED BY THE POWER OF BLACK ART.A FEW YEARS BACK, GAY ENTERED THE BLACK PANTHER UNIVERSE AS A WRER FOR THE IC BOOK SERI, WORLD OF WAKANDA, ALONG WH YONA HARVEY, THIS MA GAY THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN WRER OF A MARVEL SERI. ALTHOUGH WORLD OF WAKANDA WAS DISNTUED, GAY'S WORK HAS NOT. SHE HAS SCE RECENTLY TEASED A NEW IC BOOK SERI TLED, THE BANKS."I DO THK ’S A RPONSIBILY TO EXPAND THE BLACK IMAGATN AND SHOW BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK CHILDREN WHAT IS POSSIBLE WH ENOUGH IMAGATN AND WH ENOUGH TEMERY,"GAY SAYS. "I AM ALSO ENURAGED BY THE WAYS WHICH OUR MUNI ARE GALVANISG, AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE THE OVERWHELMG THGS THAT WE’RE FACG, WE ARE NOT BEG PLACENT AND WE’RE NOT GIVG UP."YOU N WATCH THE FULL TERVIEW WH ROXANE GAY HERE: SHAREFOLLOW NITVFACEBOOKTWTERSTAGRAMDELVE TO THE LATT INDIGENO NEWS AND FEATUR OM NITV'S AGENDA-SETTG PROGRAM, THE POT. READ MORE ABOUT NITVWATCH NOWHAVE A STORY OR MENT? CONTACT USDELVE TO THE LATT INDIGENO NEWS AND FEATUR OM NITV'S AGENDA-SETTG PROGRAM, THE POT.WATCH NOWFOLLOW NITVFACEBOOKTWTERSTAGRAM4 M READPUBLISHED 6 APRIL 2019 8:29AMUPDATED 6 APRIL 2019 9:23AMBY RACHAEL HOCKGSOURCE: THE POTTAGSENTERTAMENTCOUNTRYABORIGAL AND TORR STRA ISLANR PEOPLATRALIASHARE THIS WH FAY AND IENDSCOPY LKSHAREPOPULAR STORI
• MAMAMIA WEBSE APOLOGIS FOR 'CEL AND HUIATG' TREATMENT OF THOR ROXANE GAY
• BE BIGGER, FIGHT HARR: ROXANE GAY ON A LIFETIME OF 'HUNGER'
• AN INTERVIEW WH DR. ROXANE GAY
• ROXANE GAY: MAMAMIA WEBSE 'HUIAT' FEMIST THOR
• ROXANE GAY
• ROXANE GAY: THE AUDACY
• INSI THE NEAR MELTDOWN OF ROXANE GAY AND CHRISTA HOFF SOMMERS’S ATRALIAN MI-TOUR
• IN HUNGER, ROXANE GAY SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE WILL ABOUT BEG FAT AMERI
• HOW LONG DO TAKE TO FALL LOVE? WRER ROXANE GAY FOUND THE ANSWER
• AN INTERVIEW WH ROXANE GAY

ROXANE GAY RPONDS TO MAMAMIA'S 'CEL AND HUIATG' ARTICLE

Roxane Gay, the thor of several crilly acclaimed books cludg Bad Femist, Difficult Women and the jt-released Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body, endured what she’s appropriately scribed as “cel and huiatg” treatment at the hands of Atralia’s self-scribed “largt pennt women’s webse. ”Anyone who follows the femist thor on Twter knows that Gay has been makg the terview rounds ahead of Hunger’s but, a book that tails Gay’s experience “learng how to feed your hunger while takg re of yourself.

”In an attempt to troduce the podst terview wh Gay, Mamamia appears to have disclosed a list of the thor’s personal requts, breachg nfintialy. A scriptn featured on the se’s No Filter podst on Monday (and ptured screenshots sce was leted) disclosed a lany of preparatns the webse unrwent orr to terview Gay. ”Mamamia has sce apologized, releasg a statement that reads part:In no way did Mamamia ever tend to make Roxane Gay feel disrpected and we apologise unequivolly that that was the untend nsequence, cludg to her publishg team who anised the vis and ma the requts good fah.

ROXANE GAY LLS OUT ATRALIAN ‘FEMIST’ WEBSE FOR ‘CEL AND HUIATG’ TREATMENT

Somehow “a dozen exchang” to arrange an terview wh Atralian webse Mamamia led to a breach of nfince, a poorly-thought-out troductn, and a “cel and huiatg” experience for thor Roxane Monday, the self-proclaimed femist webse helmed by journalist Mia Freedman published a podst terview wh Gay, who was promotg her new book Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body. Gay’s latt novel expands upon ias she’s discsed terviews and on Twter before: the anxiety and huiatn that wh existg a world that ems you take up too much room, and won’t acmodate your experience.

However, spe the beg topics that Gay shar her memoir and even mak an example of durg her Mamamia terview, Freedman, who terviewed Gay for the podst, fixated entirely on this pot her terview tros both the podst and a post onle. ”Fans and Gay have sce reacted to the puzzlg posts, sharg thoughts on Freedman’s ignorance on relayg Gay’s experience to the world a lens that is all but empathetic. " Get why Mia Freedman found @rgay requts tertg, but they're private for a reason Akar Surbakti (@AkarSurbakti) June 13, 2017The thg that piss me off is that MamaMia/Mia Freedman sells their ntent as femist when is anythg but that— Lren Ingram (@lrengram) June 13, 2017No Filter is apt name for the podst.

She said she never her life asked if she would f an elevator or requted any of the other ridiculo elaborate tails allegedly mand by Gay’s reprentatn: “How many steps were there om the curb to the door of the buildg?

ROXANE GAY ON HOW TO WRE ABOUT TRMAIN A NDID TERVIEW, THE NOVELIST, SAYIST, AND PROFSOR TALKS TO MONI LEWSKY ABOUT FDG A WAY TO WRE ABOUT TERRIBLE THGS, DOG DOUBLE DUTY ON THERAPY, AND HANDLG ALL FORMS OF CRICISM.BY MONI LEWSKYFEBARY 18, 2021BY REGALD CUNNGHAM.SAVE THIS STORYSAVESAVE THIS STORYSAVE“WE ARE WALKG WOUNDS, BUT I AM NOT SURE ANY OF KNOW QUE HOW TO TALK ABOUT ,” WR ROXANE GAY HER NEW SAY, “WRG INTO THE WOUND,” PUBLISHED ON SCRIBD. THE PIECE, SPIRED BY AN UNRGRADUATE WORKSHOP GAY TGHT AT YALE ON WRG TRMA, SCRIB GAY’S EXPERIENCE ATTEMPTG TO WRE ABOUT BEG GANG-RAPED AT AGE 12, FIRST FICTNAL STORI WRTEN AS A TEENAGER, “MELODRAMATIC AND OVERWROUGHT AND DARK AND GRAPHIC,” AND THEN, AS AN ADULT, WORK LIKE HER SAY LLECTN BAD FEMIST. “I WROTE AROUND ,” SHE WR OF THAT BOOK’S SCRIPTN OF THE ASSLT. “IN PART, I WAS PROTECTG MYSELF. I ULD ADM THIS THG HAD HAPPENED TO ME, BUT I WAS NOT READY TO SHARE THE TAILS.” FALLY, HUNGER: A MEMOIR OF (MY) BODY, GAY WROTE “DIRECTLY AND OPENLY ABOUT MY SEXUAL ASSLT, HOW CHANGED ME, HOW THAT ASSLT HAS HNTED ME FOR MORE THAN THIRTY YEARS.”IN HER NEW SAY, SHE SCRIB THE BOOK’S RECEPTN—OVERWHELMGLY POSIVE RPONS OM REARS, WHILE TERVIEWS WH SOME MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA RANGED OM MISRMED TO LLO—AND HOW THE EXPERIENCE OF WRG THE BOOK LED TO FURTHER QUTNS OF HOW TO PICT TRMA WRG. THE PIECE IS WELL HEWN BUT EXPANSIVE, EXPLORG THE WAYS WHICH WE REVEAL OURSELV THROUGH WRG—BY CHOICE, AS THE TAILG OF AN ASSLT, OR MORE OBLIQUELY, AS HOW A JOURNALIST SCRIB A PIECE OF WRG ABOUT AN ASSLT, AND THE WRER WHO EXPERIENCED .ROXANE AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A FEW YEARS AND, OF URSE, MY AWARENS OF AND ADMIRATN FOR HER WRG PREDATED THAT. I’M SURE FEW WOULD WONR WHY I WAS TERTED TALKG TO HER ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SAY—WHICH WE DID VIA A ZOOM LL OM OUR RPECTIVE LOS ANGEL HOM—ABOUT THE NUANCE AND TRICY VOLVED WRG ABOUT ONE’S TRMA FOR PUBLIC NSUMPTN.MONI LEWSKY: DID TEACHG THE URSE ON TRMA WRG CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW WE WRE ABOUT TRMA?ROXANE GAY: I DON’T KNOW THAT CHANGED MY THOUGHTS, BUT CERTALY EXPAND THEM AND HELPED ME VELOP A STRONGER UNRSTANDG. I THOUGHT OF THE CLASS AFTER ASKG MYSELF, HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT TRMA? AND HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT WELL? I HAD EDED AN ANTHOLOGY LLED NOT THAT BAD, A PILATN OF WOMEN WRG ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENC WH RAPE CULTURE. MOST OF THE SUBMISSNS WERE JT STRAIGHT TTIMONY. THEY WEREN’T SAYS. AND I WAS THE UNFORTUNATE POSN OF HAVG TO REJECT THE TLY PAFUL STORI THAT CLEARLY TOOK QUE A LOT FOR THE WRERS TO SUBM. IT GOT ME THKG, HOW DO WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TAKE A TRMA—WHETHER ’S THEIRS OR SOMEONE ELSE’S; A CULTURAL TRMA, LLECTIVE TRMA, SO ON—AND WRE ABOUT WAYS THAT N BE MORE THAN JT THARSIS? OVER THE URSE OF THE SEMTER MY STUNTS WERE REALLY ASTONISHG THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY APPROACHED THE TOPIC AND TRIED TO ANSWER THE QUTN I POSED TO THEM AT THE BEGNG OF THE SEMTER WHICH IS, “HOW DO WE WRE TRMA, AND HOW DO WE DO WELL?” IT REALLY HELPED ME TO FURTHER REFE MY THKG.DO “WRG TRMA WELL” FALL UNR THE TEGORY OF WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SAY IS “GOOD” WRG? OR DO WRG TRMA WELL MEAN THAT ’S EFFECTIVE A DIFFERENT WAY?THAT’S A GOOD QUTN, AND I THK A LOT OF THE TIME WHAT WE MEAN BY WRG WELL IS VERY SUBJECTIVE AND THERE N BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRERIA. FOR SOME PEOPLE, WRG ABOUT TRMA WELL MEANS THAT HELPS THEM WORK THROUGH SOMETHG. BUT IS THAT GOG TO BE WRG TRMA WELL FOR AN DIENCE? AND WHICH DIENCE? YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO THK THROUGH THE QUTNS AS YOU’RE WRG TRMA AND CI, WHAT IS YOUR END GOAL? AND WHAT ARE YOU GOG TO NSIR A SUCCS?I’VE WRTEN ABOUT MY TRMA AND WHAT ENDS UP FEELG MEANGFUL TO ME IS WHEN SOMEONE NNECTS WH A WAY THAT HELPS THEM. YOU HAD AN OUTPOURG OF THAT AFTER HUNGER. DID THAT MIGATE SOME OF THE EXPERIENC YOU WERE HAVG WH THE PRS? WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?IT WAS SURPRISG, BEE I DID NOT EXPECT THE BOOK TO RONATE WH AS MANY PEOPLE AS DID, AND WH AS MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT FAT. I JT THOUGHT, GREAT, I’M GOG TO REACH MY FAT BRETHREN, YAY. BUT LIVG A BODY IS HARD, NO MATTER WHAT THAT BODY LOOKS LIKE, AND NO MATTER WHAT THAT BODY’S ABILY IS. AND SO PEOPLE REALLY HAD A LOT TO SAY, AND I REALLY FELT I HAD DONE WELL, BEE SO MANY PEOPLE ME TO ME. BUT ALSO BEE CREATED A SMALL MEASURE OF CHANGE. NOW, ’S BEG TGHT MANY MEDIL SCHOOLS AND IS HELPG DOCTORS RETHK HOW THEY TERACT WH THEIR FAT PATIENTS AND HOW THEY TREAT THEIR FAT PATIENTS AND HOW THEY UNRSTAND THEIR FAT PATIENTS. AND THAT, FOR ME, WAS WHEN I KNEW I HAD DONE OKAY. BEE, THAT’S SUCH A REAL PROBLEM, FAT PHOBIA THE MEDIL PROFSN. AND SO MANY FAT PEOPLE GO UNDIAGNOSED WH ISSU THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SEEK TREATMENT FOR. BEG FAT IS NOT A CRIME. AND SO, IF THE MEDIL TABLISHMENT N CRIMALIZE FATNS A LTLE B, I WILL HAVE NSIRED MY LIFE A LIFE WELL LIVED.MY BT IEND OM LLEGE IS A PEDIATRICIAN, AND SHE READ HUNGER AND TOLD ME THAT PLETELY CHANGED HOW SHE TALKED TO ALL OF HER ADOLCENT PATIENTS AROUND THIS ISSUE.MY NFSN IS THAT HUNGER WAS TOO HARD FOR ME TO READ. I’VE STGGLED WH WEIGHT MY WHOLE LIFE AND WAS ALSO FAT-SHAMED PUBLICLY. IT OPENED UP THOSE TRIGGERS. BUT I DO WONR, DO YOU LIKE OR DISLIKE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT WAS BRAVE TO WRE SOMETHG LIKE THIS?MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYI HAVE TRIED TO E TO A PLACE OF PEACE ABOUT , BEE I DON’T FEEL BRAVE. AND SO FEELS LIKE PEOPLE ARE GIVG ME A REGNN I DON’T SERVE WHEN THEY SAY THAT. I DON’T THK ’S PARTICULARLY BRAVE TO WRE ABOUT YOUR REALY AND TO WRE ABOUT THE WAYS YOU’VE SUFFERED OR THE WAYS THAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED JOY. BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, I DO REGNIZE, GIVEN HOW TERRIFYG I FOUND TO WRE THE BOOK, THAT TOOK SOMETHG TO FALLY H SEND AND GIVE TO MY EDOR—AND I LAYED THAT FOR A YEAR, BEE I WAS SO OVERWHELMED BY THE PROSPECT OF EVEN STARTG THE BOOK. SO YEAH, THE END DID REQUIRE SOME BRAVERY. I TRY TO JT BE AS GRAC AS POSSIBLE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT BEE I DO REGNIZE ’S A PLIMENT AND THAT PEOPLE DON’T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF MY TERR ANGST. BUT I ALSO SOMETIM FD MYSELF QUALIFYG LIKE, “OH, I’M NOT BRAVE.”LIKE JT NOW?EXACTLY. EXACTLY LIKE THAT.YOU WROTE THE SAY, “HOW DO WE WRE ABOUT THE TRMATIC EXPERIENC OF OTHERS WHOUT TRANSGRSG THEIR BOUNDARI OR PRIVACY?"THAT’S A QUTN I THK THAT WE ARE ALWAYS GOG TO HAVE TO GRAPPLE WH, BUT I ALWAYS THK WE HAVE TO ERR ON THE SI OF RPECTG OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR LIV AND NOT PUTTG WORDS OR EXPERIENC TO THEIR MOUTHS THAT THEY HAVE NOT SHARED. I DON’T EVER WANT TO SUPPOSE THAT I KNOW ANYTHG ABOUT SOMEONE WHO’S EXPERIENCED TRMA, IF I HAVEN’T ASKED THEM ABOUT DIRECTLY. WE SEE ALL KDS OF SPECULATN. YOU’RE VERY FAIAR WH THIS. THE MEDIA WILL VENT STORI, WHOLE CLOTH.ACRDG TO THE TABLOIDS, I HAD AN ALIEN CHILD ONCE, YOU KNOW?OH, I DID NOT REALIZE. HOW ARE THEY DOG?WONRFUL. I’M GETTG THE TAX CRED.LUCKY! YEAH. IT’S WILD TO SEE WHAT WRERS N DO. I THK THAT AS LONG AS WE REGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO RPECT OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR LIV, EVEN IF WE’RE WRG ABOUT THEM, WE ARE GOG TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE’RE DOG A REASONABLY GOOD JOB OF WRG ABOUT THE TRMA OF OTHERS. I NEVER WANT TO -OPT SOMEONE’S EXPERIENCE, AND SO WHEN I WRE ABOUT THE TRMA OF OTHERS, I JT TRY TO BE REFUL. I TRY TO E MON SENSE. I THK, WOULD I WANT SOMETHG LIKE THIS WRTEN ABOUT ME? BEE HAVG HAD PEOPLE WRE ABOUT ME AND DO SO WAYS THAT ARE ACCURATE, OR JT WRONG, OR OFFENSIVE—I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS. I WOULD NEVER WANT ANYONE ELSE TO FEEL THAT WAY, AND SO I TRY TO BE REFUL. AND I THK IF EVERYONE WAS A LTLE MORE REFUL AND A LTLE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE CHOIC THAT THEY MAKE, WE ULD SPARE PEOPLE FURTHER TRMA.DO YOU FEEL FORTABLE TALKG PUBLICLY ABOUT THE HEALG MODALI THAT YOU’VE ED OR ARE G?OH YEAH, I’M VERY FORTABLE. I TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRE ABOUT MY SEXUAL ASSLT BEE I WASN’T READY, BEE I DIDN’T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW SOMETHG SO TIMATE AND SOMETHG SO PAFUL. AND THEN I STARTED TO THK, IT’S BEEN SO LONG. LET GO. AND SO, ONE OF THE THGS THAT GOT ME TO A PLACE WHERE I WAS ABLE TO WRE ABOUT AND OPEN MYSELF UP TO EVERYTHG EVABLY THAT WOULD RISE OUT OF WRG ABOUT WAS A THERAPY. AND A LOT OF READG AND SUPPORT GROUPS ONLE, AND THGS LIKE THAT. AND SO, I’M ACTUALLY WAY MORE FORTABLE TALKG ABOUT THE HEALG MODALI THAT I AM G THAN I AM TALKG ABOUT THE TRMA SELF. AND I’M FE TALKG ABOUT THE TRMA SELF. IT’S NOT THAT TERTG. IT HAPPENED, ’S OVER, AND Y, I’M STILL ALG WH THE REPERCSNS OF , BUT ’S NOT THAT TERTG.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYWHAT IS TERTG IS, FOR ME, IS JT HOW LONG TRMA N LGER AND HOW SOMETIM WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT YOU HAVE THE REMRS. AND THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE STUNNG THGS ABOUT LIVG THROUGH TRMA. TRMA POUNDS. IT JT SURPRIS ME WHERE I FEEL LIKE I’M DOG SOMETHG NORMAL, EVERYTHG IS OL, AND THEN SOMETHG HAPPENS AND ALL OF A SUDN NOTHG IS OKAY, EVERYTHG IS TERRIBLE AND I AM FALLG APART. AND THEN I HAVE TO PULL MYSELF BACK TOGETHER ALL OVER AGA.WE DON’T TALK A LOT ABOUT THE MSS OF REVERY, BEE PEOPLE LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT IS A NTAED AND DISCRETE EXPERIENCE. IT HAPPENS, ’S OVER, YOU HEAL, YOU MOVE ON. YOU HEAL, BUT SOMETIM THE WOUND REOPENS, AND HEALS AGA AND THEN REOPENS AND SR TISSUE VELOPS, AND SO ON. I TRY TO ALSO ACMODATE THAT MY WRG SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CLEAR THAT I’M NOT OFFERG YOU SOME SORT OF MAGIL SOLUTN. THIS IS NOT THERAPY. THIS IS JT A MEMOIR. IT IS AN ACUNTG OF A LIFE…. SO MANY PEOPLE WH TRMA FEEL LIKE THEY’RE FAILG BEE THEY HAVE A BAD DAY OR A BAD WEEK OR A BAD YEAR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU WAKE UP, YOU’RE NOT FAILG. IF YOU BSH YOUR TEETH, YOU’RE NOT FAILG. AND I THK IF WE JT HAVE SLIGHTLY MORE REALISTIC GOALS FOR OURSELV THAN PERFECTN, WE’LL BE OKAY.DURG THE PANMIC, AFTER THGS JT PLETELY WENT AWAY FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, PEOPLE FIGURED OUT THAT VIRTUAL EVENTS ARE VIABLE AND WORK STARTED POURG AGA. AND OF URSE, I WAS WRG ABOUT THE ELECTN, AND I HAD GOTTEN MARRIED, AND MY MOM HAS LUNG NCER. I HAVE A LOT GOG ON. I HAVEN’T HAD A CHANCE TO WORRY ABOUT MY OWN SH BEE THERE’S FIVE OTHER THGS THAT ARE HORRIBLE THAT I’M ALG WH AT THE SAME TIME. BUT ONE OF THE THGS THAT THE ISOLATN DID DO, THOUGH, WAS FORCE ME TO REGNIZE THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO WORK ON SOME THGS THAT I HAVE NOT WORKED ON PERSONALLY. I’VE KICKED UP THERAPY TO TWICE A WEEK NOW, AND THAT HAS BEEN VERY EFUL. I WAS VERY RISTANT, BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT ’S VERY EFUL TO GO TWICE A WEEK.OR A DOUBLE SSN.IT TAK ME A WHILE TO WARM UP AND I FD THAT AROUND MUTE 41 IS WHEN I REALLY WHEN I’M LIKE, “AND SO THEN HE STABBED ME.” AND THEN SHE’S LIKE, “WELL, WE GOT TO GO!” AND SO I HAVE FOUND THAT BEE EVEN THOUGH I’M STILL BY, I’M NOT TRAVELG, WHICH SAV SO MUCH TIME AND SO MUCH ENERGY THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DIRECT THAT ENERGY TO PRODUCTIVE THGS. AND ADDN TO THE CREASED ANXIETY OF IS HUMANY G TO AN END, SO ’S BEEN CHALLENGG. WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU, MONI?MY EXPERIENCE THE BEGNG OF THE PANMIC WAS THAT OLD TRMA MA REALLY CHALLENGG. IN THE FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS OF 1998, I ULDN’T GO OUTSI. SO, BEE OF THAT, UNLS I’M SICK, ’S RARE FOR ME TO NOT LEAVE MY HOE AT LEAST ONCE A DAY. Y, WE ULD GO FOR WALKS…BUT. THERE WAS A REAL CLSTROPHOBIC FEELG ABOUT QUARANTE FOR ME—THAT “HAVE TO STAY SI” MANDATE. AND THEN, TERMS OF POUND TRMA, I HAD JT STARTED DATG SOMEBODY AND LDA TRIPP DIED UNEXPECTEDLY. A LOT OF OLD TRMA KICKED UP.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYIT SURPRIS ME, ALL THE CREVIC THE PSYCHE WHERE TRMA N LURK. MY THERAPIST IS A TRMA PSYCHIATRIST AND SHE TALKS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE JT SAYG, THAT THERE’S SUCH A LONG ECHO OF TRMA. I’VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SOMETIM TRYG TO PREPARE FOR SOMETHG THAT I THK WILL BE TRMATIC, AND THEN ’S LIKE, SURPRISE! TRMA HAS S OWN WAY OF WANTG TO AL WH SOMETHG.AND S OWN AGENDA. I FD THAT WHENEVER I THK I’M PLANNG FOR HOW I’M GOG TO FEEL ABOUT SOMETHG, LIFE SURPRIS ME. THE MOST SURPRISG THG ABOUT HUNGER WAS NOT THE REAR RECEPTN, WAS THE WAY THE PRS ALT WH . I HAD ANTICIPATED AND MY BT IEND AND I HAD ACTUALLY SPENT SOME TIME TRYG TO IMAGE WHAT WERE THE WORST THGS THAT REPORTERS WERE GOG TO ASK ME? WHAT WERE THE WORST HEADL? WE END UP BEG RIGHT, AND THEN WAS WAY WORSE. IF I HAD KNOWN I WOULD’VE NEVER, EVER PUBLISHED THE BOOK. SO I’M GLAD A WAY THAT I DID NOT KNOW…. CULTURALLY, ’S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO LET GO OF THE SGULAR NARRATIV. AGA, THIS IS NOTHG YOU DON’T ALREADY KNOW. IT JT SURPRISED ME, I MT SAY. IT SURPRISED ME.BUT YOU DON’T REGRET PUBLISHG HUNGER, DO YOU?I DON’T REGRET . THE BOOK HAS DONE MORE GOOD THAN NOT.THERE’S A LOT OF TALK THE ANTI-BULLYG WORLD AROUND HOW MEDIA IS NOT VERY WELL TRAED AT TALKG ABOUT SUICI, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LANGUAGE WE E. DO YOU THK THAT THAT WAS A SIAR SE WH THE PEOPLE THE PRS—THAT THEY DIDN’T KNOW BETTER? OR THEY WERE GOG FOR CLICKBA, OR WAS THEIR UNNSC BIAS?I THK WAS ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND NOT EVERY TERVIEWER HAD ALL OF THE SAME MOTIVATNS. LIKE MIA FREEDMAN [FOUNR OF MAMAMIA, AN ATRALIAN WOMEN’S WEBSE, WHO HOSTED GAY ON HER PODST; “FREEDMAN WROTE A SCRIPTN OF THE SHOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST HUIATG THGS I HAVE EVER SEEN PRT ABOUT MYSELF,” GAY WR THE SAY. “I WAS STUNNED. BLDSID.”], SHE WAS JT ABOUT CLICKBA. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOG, AND SHE CLEARLY HAS ISSU AROUND FATNS AS WELL.I WROTE THE BOOK, AND THE KDS OF THGS THAT THE MEDIA WERE OBSSG ABOUT, I PUT THE BOOK. I KNEW THAT WAS GOG TO HAPPEN, BUT I JT DID NOT REALIZE THE ENTHIASM WH WHICH WAS GOG TO HAPPEN. PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCED TO WRE ABOUT MY HIGHT WEIGHT OVER AND OVER. FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS, THERE WAS NOT A PIECE OF PRS THAT DID NOT MENTN . AND I JT THOUGHT, WELL, OF URSE THEY WERE GOG TO DO THAT. AND YOU JT HAVE TO HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH. THERE’S NOTHG I ULD DO ABOUT .BUT WAS ALSO DISAPPOTG. WHEN SOMEONE LIKE TERRY GROSS, WHO I HELD PRR TO THIS REALLY, HIGH TEEM, BEE MY IENDS AND FAY REALLY HELD HER THE HIGHT TEEM—FOR SO MANY WRERS, THAT’S THE HOLY GRAIL. AND I’VE HEARD GOOD TERVIEWS WH HER, SO I WAS ACTUALLY EXCED TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE NVERSATN. AND THEN WHEN DIDN’T HAPPEN—OH, WAS HUGELY DISAPPOTG. [“SHE FIXATED ON MY HIGHT WEIGHT,” GAY WR OF HER EXPERIENCE THE SAY. “SHE WAS EPLY CUR ABOUT MY EATG HABS, ABOUT HOW I ULD SPEND SO MANY YEARS BEG SO FAT.”]MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYTHAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE TOO. I LEFT. I LEFT THE MIDDLE OF THE TERVIEW.I DID NOT HAVE THE CHUTZPAH TO DO SOMETHG LIKE THAT. BUT I WANTED TO. I WANTED TO JT LEAVE BEE I WAS SO HURT AND THEN MAD AT MYSELF FOR BEG HURT. AND THEN MAD AT MYSELF FOR NOT BEG PREPARED, TO NOT EXPECT THAT THIS WAS GOG TO HAPPEN WH SOMEONE LIKE HER. BEE I JT THOUGHT SHE WAS BETTER THAN THAT. AND SHE WASN’T.I HAD DIFFERENT TRMAS, YOUNGER YEARS, ADOLCENCE, AND THEN OBVLY THE ON EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT. I THK THERE WAS A TENNCY AS A YOUNGER PERSON TO TURN THE BLAME BACK ON MYSELF. DO YOU THK THAT’S PART OF THE TRMA OF WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED WH TERRY?I THK WAS A LOT OF THAT. WHY WAS I NOT PREPARED? WHY DID I EXPECT ANY BETTER OM PEOPLE? AND WHY DID I WRE THE BOOK? I TOOK ALL THE BLAME ON MYSELF. WHY ULD I NOT GET MY WEIGHT UNR NTROL, SO THAT I DIDN’T HAVE TO WRE THE BOOK? I ULD GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO: WHY WAS I BORN? IT N BE A REALLY SLIPPERY SLOPE OF SELF-BLAME AND SELF-LOATHG. I TRIED TO PULL MYSELF OUT OF AND REMD MYSELF, LIKE, THIS IS RADIL, BUT MAYBE I’M NOT THE PROBLEM.SOMEBODY TOLD ME THIS QUOTE A UPLE YEARS AGO AND ME TO MD AS I WAS READG YOUR SAY. IT’S OM THE FRENCH WRER ANDRé MALRX. “YOU DID NOT E BACK OM HELL WH EMPTY HANDS.”YOU KNOW, I’VE NEVER HEARD THAT SAYG BEFORE, BUT ’S AN TERTG THG AND ’S TE. YOU’RE NEVER GOG TO EMERGE OM A TRMA UNSTHED, AND AS MUCH AS WE’D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT HEALG IS A SORT OF A NEAT AND PLETE THG, THERE’S ALWAYS GOG TO BE BAGGAGE AND SRS. AND SOMETIM LERALLY CHANG WHO YOU ARE, WHICH N BE CHALLENGG.WHEN I TGHT THE CLASS, HAVG TGHT UNRGRADUAT BEFORE, I KNEW I WAS GOG TO HEAR ABOUT DIFFICULT EXPERIENC THAT THE STUNTS HAD ENDURED. AND SO I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT, BUT I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR HOW POWERFULLY THEY WERE ABLE TO WRE ABOUT THOSE EXPERIENC. AND I JT KEPT LOOKG, EACH WEEK, OUT AT THIS AMAZG GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND THKG, THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE THE STORI TO TELL…. IT WAS REALLY STRIKG TO ME TO REGNIZE THAT TRMA REALLY IS ONE OF THE GREAT EQUALIZERS. WE DON’T TALK ABOUT THAT ENOUGH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND WE HAVE MON GROUND BEE OF LOVE, WE ALL HAVE FAI, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. BUT ALSO, MOST OF HAVE ENDURED TRMA.I THK ’S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO REGNIZE THAT YOU SHOULDN’T BE RANKG OPPRSNS AND YOU SHOULDN’T BE RANKG TRMAS, BEE ’S NOT FAIR. I WASN’T A WAR-TORN REGN DURG A WAR, BUT THAT DON’T MEAN THAT MY TRMA DIDN’T HAVE A PROFOUND IMPACT ON ME. WOMEN TEND TO MIMIZE THEIR EXPERIENC AND THEIR TRMAS BEE WOMEN AL WH SO MANY TERRIBLE THGS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN SEX TRAFFICKED, YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GANG-RAPED BY SOLDIERS—I MEAN, THE LEVEL OF HORROR THAT THOSE POOR WOMEN CLEVELAND WHO WERE KEPT A HOE FOR SEVEN YEARS. I HAVE ENOUGH PERSPECTIVE TO REGNIZE WHAT I WENT THROUGH SUCKED, BUT WASN’T LIKE THAT.MOST POPULARVANY FAIR’S “IT’S RAG TEENS” COVER AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?BY SAVANNAH WALSHTHE CAST OF OPPENHEIMER AND THE REAL PEOPLE THEY PLAYBY HILLARY BISSOUND OF FREEDOM: THE WILD TE STORY BEHD 2023’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILMBY EVE BATEYONE OF THE THGS THAT I DID REALIZE DURG CLASS, AND THAT I ALSO TRIED TO IMPART TO MY STUNTS, IS THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER MIMIZE YOUR TRMA. BUT I ALSO THK PERSPECTIVE IS CREDIBLY IMPORTANT, AND REGNIZG THAT THERE’S NOTHG PRODUCTIVE SAYG, “THAT WAS SO MUCH WORSE,” BUT THERE IS SOMETHG IMPORTANT REGNIZG THAT TRMA N BE POUND AND N LAST BEYOND IMAGG.IS THERE SOMETHG THAT YOU’VE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WH YOUR SAY THAT YOU HAVEN’T BEEN ASKED ABOUT OR THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED THAT DON’T GET HIGHLIGHTED ENOUGH?THE ONE THG THAT I DON’T THK IS HIGHLIGHTED ENOUGH, AND I THK THIS APPLI TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT KDS OF WRG, IS THAT PEOPLE UNRTIMATE THE CRAFT. SO MANY PEOPLE ASSUME THAT WHEN YOU’RE WRG ABOUT TRMA, WHEN YOU’RE WRG ABOUT MARGALIZATN, OPPRSN, WHATEVER, ANYTHG SORT OF NEGATIVE, THAT YOU’RE WRG ONLY OM EMOTN. AND ONE OF THE MA POTS I WAS TRYG TO MAKE, AND I DON’T KNOW THAT I ACTUALLY DID WELL THE SAY, BUT I WILL, WHEN BE A CHAPTER MY NEXT BOOK. PEOPLE UNRTIMATE THAT ’S A CRAFT. THAT WRG IS A JOB AND I’M NOT JT DOG TO EXORCISE MY MONS, I’M DOG TO ELIC A RPONSE OM THE REAR AND TO ACPLISH SOMETHG. AND I DO WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MECHANIL CHOIC THAT YOU MAKE TO WRE ABOUT ANYTHG, BUT TO WRE ABOUT TRMA PARTICULAR.I’M TERTED THAT.YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOUNDARI. AND BOUNDARI ARE THIS GREAT NTAER THAT WILL KEEP OUT THGS YOU DON’T WANT TO CLU, AND KEEP EVERYTHG ELSE. ONCE YOU HAVE BOUNDARI, YOU KNOW THAT YOU’RE NEVER GOG TO BE HARMED, AND YOU’RE NOT GOG TO E HARM, BY WHATEVER YOU’RE DOG BEE YOU RPECT YOURSELF ENOUGH TO HAVE THE BOUNDARI. IT’S IMPORTANT TO REGNIZE THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO DIVULGE EVERYTHG. YOU GET TO TERME HOW EXPLIC OR IMPLIC YOU WANT TO BE. SO MANY PEOPLE THK THAT IF I’M WRG ABOUT TRMA, I HAVE TO BE CREDIBLY EXPLIC AND I HAVE TO GIVE YOU EVERY GORY TAIL. YOU WANT TO THK ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOG TO PUT THE REAR TO YOUR EXPERIENCE, OR WHATEVER EXPERIENCE YOU’RE WRG ABOUT, SO THEY N REALLY UNRSTAND THE IMPACT OF . YOU HAVE TO START TO THK ABOUT THE CHOIC THAT YOU’RE MAKG TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF SCRIPTN AND THE KD OF SETTG AND THE WAY YOU SET UP AND TRODUCE WHATEVER YOU’RE WRG ABOUT TO THE PIECE. I REALLY WANTED TO GET MY STUNTS TO ALSO THK ADDN TO THE ETHIL QUTNS, JT MECHANILLY, HOW ARE YOU GOG TO DO THIS? IT HELPED A LOT OF THE STUNTS, BEE THEY HAD TO REGNIZE THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU GOG TO WRE THIS, YOU’RE GOG TO BE CRIQUED. AND YOU DON’T GET TO E THE TRMA AS A SHIELD OM CRIQUE. JT LIKE I ULDN’T E TRMA AS A SHIELD OM BOOK REVIEWS—NOR WOULD I. AND THAT IS A EFUL AMEWORK, PECIALLY THE REALM OF WRG.MORE GREAT STORI FROM VANY FAIR— COVER STORY: THE CHARMG BILLIE EILISH— KOBE BRYANT’S TRAGIC FLIGHT, ONE YEAR LATER— HOW THE PGA POLISHED OFF DONALD TMP— COULD THE MONARCHY “GO OVER A CLIFF” AFTER QUEEN ELIZABETH DI?— 36 ESSENTIAL ITEMS FOR RECREATG INIC BILLIE EILISH NAIL MOMENTS— INSI 2021’S CELEBRY-GOSSIP RENAISSANCE— WHAT WILL MELANIA TMP’S LEGACY BE?— FROM THE ARCHIVE: THE BRANT BROTHERS’ QUT TO CONQUER MANHATTAN— NOT A SUBSCRIBER? JO VANY FAIR TO RECEIVE FULL ACCS TO AND THE PLETE ONLE ARCHIVE NOW.MONI LEWSKY

She repeats the ia that sce Gay wr about this and her publishg team asked for certa acmodatns, “the terviewer rpectfully raised them wh Roxane as an example of what she wr her book. ”When asked about her acmodatns durg the terview, Gay said the experienc are strsful as she wonrs if such acmodatns will be ma to seatg and space.

“It’s jt a nstant seri of qutns that you are askg yourself every sgle day before you go to any space, and ’s exhstg bee people don’t thk, they jt assume that everyone fs the world like they do, ” Gay said.

Perhaps next time Mamamia wants to have their rears and listeners “empathize” wh someone of a different experience, such as Gay, they should stick to the terview subject’s words and explanatns, stead of lorg a rtoonish, horrific pictn. “We are walkg wounds, but I am not sure any of know que how to talk about , ” wr Roxane Gay her new say, “Wrg Into the Wound, ” published on Scribd. The piece, spired by an unrgraduate workshop Gay tght at Yale on wrg trma, scrib Gay’s experience attemptg to wre about beg gang-raped at age 12, first fictnal stori wrten as a teenager, “melodramatic and overwrought and dark and graphic, ” and then, as an adult, work like her say llectn Bad Femist.

‘I’LL ALWAYS BE A BAD FEMIST!’: ROXANE GAY ON LOVE, SUCCS – AND UPSETTG PIERS MAN

” Fally, Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body, Gay wrote “directly and openly about my sexual asslt, how changed me, how that asslt has hnted me for more than thirty years. Like Mia Freedman [founr of Mamamia, an Atralian women’s webse, who hosted Gay on her podst; “Freedman wrote a scriptn of the show that was one of the most huiatg thgs I have ever seen prt about myself, ” Gay wr the say.

Th was Roxane Gay propelled to the lerary stratosphere and – as such fairytal tend to go – sted to be forever after probed about the current state of, ne years on, do the wrer, edor, profsor, podster, cultural cric, and Gloria Steem Endowed Chair Media, Culture and Femist Studi at Rutgers Universy, New Jersey, still nsir herself a bad femist? ”Last year Gay argued that ncel culture “is the bogeyman that people have e up wh to expla away bad behavur” and she prefers to thk terms of nsequence culture.

More recently she took her podst – The Roxane Gay Agenda, which she talks, mostly to Black women, about issu cludg race, femism, pop culture and polics – off Spotify over s “unfettered accs” to the “misrmatn” spread by Joe isn’t nsirg leavg Twter, notg that sce Elon Mk’s takeover the platform hasn’t “gotten measurably worse for me bee ’s always been terrible.

‘WE’RE NOT GIVG UP’: ROXANE GAY TALKS RACE, REPRENTATN AND THE POWER OF BLACK ART'BAD FEMIST' THOR ROXANE GAY SS DOWN WH THE POT’S RACHAEL HOCKG TO DISCS RACE RELATNS ATRALIA, TERSECTNAL FEMISM AND WHY MOVI LIKE BLACK PANTHER MATTER.ROXANE GAY SPEAKS TO NITV ABOUT BLACK LIV MATTER, TEARG DOWN STATU AND A WORLD WH NO POLICE. SOURCE: SUPPLIEDROXANE GAY HAS BEEN TO ATRALIA THREE TIM, BUT HER FIRST ENUNTER WH THE UNTRY’S INDIGENO PEOPLE 2015 ME BEFORE SHE’D EVEN STEPPED OFF THE PLANE.‘ARE THERE ANY BLACK PEOPLE ATRALIA?’ SHE TWEETED.THE REACTN WAS SWIFT: ‘ARE YOU SER?’ ‘JT WOW.’ SOME SIMPLY MENTED, ‘ODD’.THE TERPRETATN OF THE TWEET BY MANY WAS THAT GAY WAS ERASG THE EXPERIENC OF INDIGENO PEOPL A LONISED UNTRY.WELL, NOT SO. SPEAKG TO NITV DURG HER RECENT VIS GAY EXPLAED THAT SHE SIMPLY WANTED A HAIR RELAXER.“I WAS THKG ABOUT HOW I WAS GOG TO NEED TO GET MY HAIR DONE WHILE I WAS SYDNEY AND I WAS WONRG IF THERE WERE ANY BLACK PEOPLE OF AIN SCENT ATRALIA, AND I DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME THAT INDIGENO PEOPLE NSIR THEMSELV BLACK,” SHE SAYS.“I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE INDIGENO MUNY HERE, SO END UP BEG A GOOD THG.”“ATRALIANS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THIS NARRATIVE THAT ATRALIA IS A LAND EE OF RACISM”GAY RETURNED TO THE UNTRY MARCH FOR A DISCSN WH NSERVATIVE THKER AND SELF-TLED ‘FACTUAL FEMIST’ CHRISTA HOFF SOMMERS, AND ED THE TRIP TO LIVER SOME POTED OBSERVATNS ABOUT THE UNTRY’S RACE RELATNS.HER VIS CID WH A STATEMENT RELEASED BY QUEENSLAND SENATOR FRASER ANNG RPONSE TO THE CHRISTCHURCH MASSACRE. ANNG BLAMED MLIM IMMIGRATN FOR A MASSACRE PERPETRATED BY A WHE SUPREMACIST OM THE MID NORTH AST OF ATRALIA. THE SENATOR HAS SCE BEEN CENSURED A BIPARTISAN MOTN AND EXPELLED OM AN EXCLIVE QANTAS LOUNGE. BUT THAT HASN’T STOPPED THE DISGRACED SENATOR OM BEG ABLE TO REGISTER HIS OWN POLIL PARTY.“ATRALIANS ARE VERY ATTACHED TO THIS NARRATIVE THAT ATRALIA IS A LAND EE OF RACISM,” GAY SAYS.“I FD THAT TO BE EXPLIBLE GIVEN THE VERY REAL STATISTICS THAT ARE NOT THE ONLY STORY ABOUT THE INDIGENO MUNY, BUT DO SPEAK TO HISTORIL EQUALI THAT ARE VERY MUCH AT PLAY RIGHT NOW.”THIS NIAL WAS ON FULL DISPLAY WHEN GAY APPEARED ON THE ABC’S Q&A PROGRAM LAST MONTH, SHE SAYS.  DURG THE PROGRAM, GAY'S -PANELIST AND LIBERAL PARTY VICE-PRINT TEENA MCQUEEN RPOND TO A QUTN OM WIRADJURI AND MāORI WOMAN LATOYA RULE, WHO SAID SHE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE RISE OF NEO-NAZISM HER HOME TOWN ALAI.MCQUEEN RPOND BY SAYG SHE DIDN’T “SEE THE GROWTH OF WHE SUPREMACISTS” AS A NCERNG ISSUE.“WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVG MUNI WHO ABSOLUTELY ENABLE AND UPLIFT WHE SUPREMACY,” GAY RPOND.“THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY OR THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHG, OR THEY ENGAGE THE NVERSATNS, AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE POT OUT, THEY JT SAY, 'WHAT ARE YOU TALKG ABOUT?'”GAY SAYS TO BRIDGE THAT UNRSTANDG, PEOPLE OF LOUR OFTEN ASSUME THE DUTY OF TG THE WIR MUNY.“THE REALY IS WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RRY WHE PEOPLE'S WATER," SHE SAYS."WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE THIS TIME OF TG THEM TIME AND AGA ABOUT THGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOG ON FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. AND YET HERE WE ARE.""OUR MUNI ARE GALVANISG"DPE THE VERY REAL ADVERSY BLACK MUNI THE UNED STAT AND ATRALIA ARE FACG RIGHT NOW, GAY SAYS SHE IS ENURAGED BY THE POWER OF BLACK ART.A FEW YEARS BACK, GAY ENTERED THE BLACK PANTHER UNIVERSE AS A WRER FOR THE IC BOOK SERI, WORLD OF WAKANDA, ALONG WH YONA HARVEY, THIS MA GAY THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN WRER OF A MARVEL SERI. ALTHOUGH WORLD OF WAKANDA WAS DISNTUED, GAY'S WORK HAS NOT. SHE HAS SCE RECENTLY TEASED A NEW IC BOOK SERI TLED, THE BANKS."I DO THK ’S A RPONSIBILY TO EXPAND THE BLACK IMAGATN AND SHOW BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK CHILDREN WHAT IS POSSIBLE WH ENOUGH IMAGATN AND WH ENOUGH TEMERY,"GAY SAYS. "I AM ALSO ENURAGED BY THE WAYS WHICH OUR MUNI ARE GALVANISG, AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE THE OVERWHELMG THGS THAT WE’RE FACG, WE ARE NOT BEG PLACENT AND WE’RE NOT GIVG UP."YOU N WATCH THE FULL TERVIEW WH ROXANE GAY HERE: SHAREFOLLOW NITVFACEBOOKTWTERSTAGRAMDELVE TO THE LATT INDIGENO NEWS AND FEATUR OM NITV'S AGENDA-SETTG PROGRAM, THE POT. READ MORE ABOUT NITVWATCH NOWHAVE A STORY OR MENT? CONTACT USDELVE TO THE LATT INDIGENO NEWS AND FEATUR OM NITV'S AGENDA-SETTG PROGRAM, THE POT.WATCH NOWFOLLOW NITVFACEBOOKTWTERSTAGRAM4 M READPUBLISHED 6 APRIL 2019 8:29AMUPDATED 6 APRIL 2019 9:23AMBY RACHAEL HOCKGSOURCE: THE POTTAGSENTERTAMENTCOUNTRYABORIGAL AND TORR STRA ISLANR PEOPLATRALIASHARE THIS WH FAY AND IENDSCOPY LKSHAREPOPULAR STORI

” The week after we speak Gay is one of nearly 1, 000 New York Tim ntributors to sign an open letter nmng the newspaper’s verage of trans, non-bary, and genr non-nformg people.

’”Gay is jugglg an overwhelmg number of projects: her podst and publishg imprt, film and TV scriptwrg (she was the first Black woman to wre for Marvel, penng the Black Panther: World of Wakanda ic seri), a book of wrg advice lled How to Be Heard, a llectn of TV cricism, a pilatn of opn piec for the New York Tim and the Guardian US, and “a few novels” – cludg a young adult novel and – y, the mours are te – a romance wh Channg Tatum. ”Roxane Gay will appear at the Women of the World ftival, Royal Ftival Hall, London, on 12 March and is on tour the UK at the Usher Hall, Edburgh (9 March), Royal Liverpool Philharmonic (11 March), the Fom Alumni Audorium at the Universy of Exeter (14 March) and The Fom, Bath (15 March and will be livtreamed on Fane Onle.

MAMAMIA WEBSE APOLOGIS FOR 'CEL AND HUIATG' TREATMENT OF THOR ROXANE GAY

Roxane Gay has been to Atralia three tim, but her first enunter wh the untry’s Indigeno people 2015 me before she’d even stepped off the plane. ”“Atralians are very attached to this narrative that Atralia is a land ee of racism”Gay returned to the untry March for a discsn wh nservative thker and self-tled ‘factual femist’ Christa Hoff Sommers, and ed the trip to liver some poted observatns about the untry’s race vis cid wh a statement released by Queensland Senator Fraser Anng rponse to the Christchurch massacre. Durg the program, Gay's -panelist and Liberal Party vice-print Teena McQueen rpond to a qutn om Wiradjuri and Māori woman Latoya Rule, who said she was worried about the rise of neo-nazism her home town Alai.

""Our muni are galvanisg"Dpe the very real adversy black muni the Uned Stat and Atralia are facg right now, Gay says she is enuraged by the power of Black art. A few years back, Gay entered the Black Panther universe as a wrer for the ic book seri, World of Wakanda, Along wh Yona Harvey, this ma Gay the first black woman wrer of a Marvel seri. "I do thk ’s a rponsibily to expand the black imagatn and show black people and black children what is possible wh enough imagatn and wh enough temery, "Gay says.

BE BIGGER, FIGHT HARR: ROXANE GAY ON A LIFETIME OF 'HUNGER'

The Atralian webse Mamamia has apologised to the US thor Roxane Gay after publishg a podst terview wh text that asked whether she would “f to the office lift”, the award-wng thor of Bad Femist, said she was “appalled by Mamamia” after the terview she gave to the se’s -founr and creative director, Mia Freedman, while promotg her new book Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body. Mamamia said later was “eply apologetic that this stance we’ve missed the mark ntributg to this discsn” Monday a scriptn posted to Mamamia’s No Filter podst disclosed an extensive list of preparatns the webse claimed to have ma to acmodate Gay durg an terview May. ”In a now-leted article which was published on Monday, a ched versn of which is still available, Freedman said the requts had been sent to her by Gay’s publisher, tailed “more than a dozen exchang”.

AN INTERVIEW WH DR. ROXANE GAY

In no way did Mamamia ever tend to make Roxane Gay feel disrpected and we apologise unequivolly that that was the untend nsequence, cludg to her publishg team who anised the vis and ma the requts good fah. The apology said that the “many requts” ma by Gay’s publisher “were asked good fah by her publishg team to make Roxane feel as fortable as possible and we willgly answered all qutns and plied wh all requts.

” In an terview wh Vice, she scribed terviews for Hunger as “more awkward than any terviews I’ve done before” her terview wh Freedman, Gay said she equently enuntered sensive qutns.

ROXANE GAY: MAMAMIA WEBSE 'HUIAT' FEMIST THOR

”Gay replied that was “very strsful” but that people sometim “go to the other extreme and assume that you’re pable of basic thgs, and basic movement, and that you need to be ddled”. Gay is a prolific thor, edor, social mentator, and tor, whose crilly acclaimed works clu the New York Tim bt-sellg llectn of says Bad Femist, which Time Magaze lls, “a manual on how to be a human.

Gay holds a PhD Rhetoric and Technil Communitn om Michigan Technologil Universy and, this short terview, offered the Technil Communitn rears ias about the importance of technil munitn; our role implementg diversy, equy, and cln (DEI) iativ; and her hop for the future of our field. Image source, EmpicsImage ptn, Roxane Gay (L) was terviewed for a podst at Mia Freedman's publitnIt was meant to be an terview to promote a Mia Freedman's podst chat wh femist thor Roxane Gay has been overshadowed by the words ed to trail Freedman wrote about wonrg whether Ms Gay would "f to the office lift" and searchg for a chair "sturdy enough to hold her weight" Gay lled the words "cel and huiatg". Ms Freedman apologised, sayg she was "beyond mortified" Gay's book Hunger reunts her life as a "woman of size", as she puts - she is 6ft 3 (1.

ROXANE GAY

"Image source, @urtney_roImage ptn, A screengrab of the origal podst scriptn was shared on TwterBut rponse, Ms Gay tweeted that she was "appalled", that the words were "cel and huiatg", the suatn was "disgtg and shameful". "I am beyond mortified, horrified and ashamed that I uld have, any way ntributed to Roxane Gay feelg anythg other than fierce, brilliant and betiful. MoreRoxane Gay’s wrg appears “Bt Amerin Mystery Stori 2014, ” “Bt Amerin Short Stori 2012, ” “Bt Sex Wrg 2012, ” A Public Space, McSweeney’s, T Hoe, Oxford Amerin, Amerin Short Fictn, Virgia Quarterly Review and many others.

And how this film als wh fatns is egreg: exploative and at tim Roxane GayCops Don’t Belong at PriMorn Pri celebratns began wh a rebelln agast the police. Wrer, speaker and cultural in Roxane Gay returns to Atralia for an entertag and enlighteng nversatn about her extraordary body of work, her ditn to upliftg emergg voic, and to offer her famoly sharp tak on femism, race and polics. Followg cril acclaim for her btsellg works, cludg Bad Femist, Difficult Women and Hunger, Gay is turng the spotlight on powerful new lerary talent through her newsletter, The Audacy and the acpanyg Audac Book Club.

ROXANE GAY: THE AUDACY

Her work promotg emergg talent don’t stop there – last year she lnched her own publishg imprt, Roxane Gay Books, which seeks to publish and support works of fictn, poetry and nonfictn om unrreprented perspectiv. ” Two of his favore femists were Roxane Gay and Christa Hoff Sommers, and he wonred if might be worthwhile to get the two onstage together Atralia. In June of last year, Dh says, he sent Gay an email layg out his visn and cg the famo Buckley-Vidal bate, self the subject of a documentary, as his spiratn.

This event beme the subject of ntroversy a full six months ahead of s schled dat, when, a September 2018 terview wh the Sydney Morng Herald, Gay lled Sommers a “whe supremacist, ” a claim for which there don’t appear to be any evince (Sommers is Jewish and says she is a registered Democrat, for what ’s worth).

” Gay had been asked about her cisn to share a stage wh a “whe supremacist, ” given that she had pulled a New Yorker article rponse to that magaze havg ved Steve Bannon to a New Yorker Ftival (after the outcry, he was disved) and had also pulled a book she’d been ntracted to wre for Simon & Schter after the publisher ked Milo Yiannopoulos to a (sce nceled) al. In rponse, Gay told the Morng Herald that she’d never heard of Sommers before but that after she’d mentned the mi-tour on Twter, the Southern Poverty Law Center, an anti-hate group, sent her rmatn about Sommers that she found “disturbg.

INSI THE NEAR MELTDOWN OF ROXANE GAY AND CHRISTA HOFF SOMMERS’S ATRALIAN MI-TOUR

Each of Gay’s pots was followed by loud applse, while Sommers was met wh snickerg and lghter even as she was speakg … I found really difficult to ncentrate on what was beg said at tim bee the crowd was so disptive, and seemed like I was one of few who actually wanted to hear the exchang full.

When Sommers cricized the monly repeated statistic that “one five” women are sexually asslted on llege mp, for example, Gay noted that clud sexual harassment, not jt asslt — meang they agreed that the figure is an overtimate when to asslt. Both also seemed to agree that certa gray-area s of sexual misbehavr, like that of Aziz Ansari, were not a good directn for the #MeToo movement (on Twter, Gay had bemoaned the lumpg of the bad-date story wh more ser cints like those surroundg Matt Ler and Louis C. Dh says that pric were higher than ual bee of Gay’s large fee and that AU$247 reprented the hight tier of ticket, which clud the bt seats, food, and drk, pl a meet-and-greet.

IN HUNGER, ROXANE GAY SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE WILL ABOUT BEG FAT AMERI

Dh did ask Gay and Sommers to expla what tersectnaly meant to them a fairly 101-level way, but the sillier-soundg qutn he was acced of askg — What is femism?

HOW LONG DO TAKE TO FALL LOVE? WRER ROXANE GAY FOUND THE ANSWER

In a tweetstorm (archived here), the first tweet of which got 2, 700 retweets, Omayma Mohamed wrote that Gay said “ would be rich for a wterner to assume that they knew what was bt for other cultur & that we didn’t need to tervene their affairs. ” There’s some tth to the ia that Gay downplayed the differenc between the women’s-rights fights the Wt and plac like Indonia (“We are alg wh the very same issu the Wtern world when is not end by Sharia law, ” Gay said). It’s clear Gay’s gripe was not wh the ia of Amerin femists helpg foreign femists w their own fights but rather wh dog so an “terventnist” way (though the term is never fed this part of the nversatn).

AN INTERVIEW WH ROXANE GAY

So this was another area where, if you dug down a b, there wasn’t a great al of nflict between the two — not that stopped Gay’s crics om spreadg exaggerated acunts of her rponse on social media. In rponse, Gay hedged a ltle but never fully retracted the accatn, referrg to Sommers as “whe-supremacist adjacent” for havg appeared onstage wh Yiannopoulos, among other appearanc — an apparent reference to a 2015 cint which Sommers accepted an terview on a Swedish podst that turned out to have a history of Holot nialism. ) Dh was beg asked not to prs Gay on the rather damng claim about Sommers that she had ma whout evince, as well as not to brg up the topic of women’s treatment untri wh strict terpretatns of Islamic law, which was salient to the differenc opn between Gay and Sommers (not to mentn a source of schism the femist movement self).

Later that day, Gay’s management team unilaterally settled on a solutn: Dh wouldn’t host the send nversatn Melbourne, at that pot jt a day away. Instead, they suggted Rachael Hockg, a journalist of digeno anctry at Atralia’s NITV who had jt terviewed Gay a few days earlier — fact, Gay’s team had already reached out to her.

Moreover, while Hockg told Dh she would do , she was hont wh him about havg never heard of Sommers until Gay’s team had reached out, makg her ( Dh’s view) a ls than ial choice. All day on the 30th and 31st, as Dh helped his small team pack up meras, props, and other gear for the flight to Melbourne, emails om Gay’s team kept pgg his box.