What's the appeal of drag queens/kgs, om a gay standpot? - Factual Qutns - Straight Dope Msage Board

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• THE TERACTN OF DRAG QUEENS AND GAY MEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPAC
• I’M 43 – BUT I’M MA TO FEEL LIKE A DOSR BY YOUNGER GAY MEN
• DRAG QUEENS CHANTG ‘WE’RE G FOR YOUR KIDS’ HURT GAY RIGHTS
• WHAT'S THE APPEAL OF DRAG QUEENS/KGS, OM A GAY STANDPOT?
• RECLAIMG THE F-WORD: ‘DRAG RACE’ CAST BREAKS DOWN USG QUEER SLURSHAVING A KIKIIT’S THE MAKEOVER CHALLENGE ON THIS WEEK’S “RUPL’S DRAG RACE ALL STARS,” WH THE QUEENS PUTTG LBIANS DRAG WHILE BATG THE RECLAIMG OF TRIGGERG QUEER SLURS.COLEMAN SPILENTERTAMENT CRICUPDATED JUL. 08, 2023 4:05AM EDT / PUBLISHED JUL. 07, 2023 1:34PM EDT PHOTO ILLTRATN BY ER O’FLYNN/THE DAILY BEAST/PARAMOUNT+THGS ARE G DOWN TO THE WIRE ON RUPL’S DRAG RACE ALL STARS 8, WHICH MEANS THAT THE WORKROOM IS BEG MORE SPAC, AND THE PRODUCERS ARE LOOKG FOR WAYS TO FILL AN ENTIRE HOUR OF TELEVISN. ON DRAG RACE, THAT TYPILLY MEANS A DREAD MAKEOVER CHALLENGE, WHERE THE REMAG ST OF QUEENS WILL HAVE TO DRAG UP A SET OF RANDOM PEOPLE WH A FG SHARED TRA, ROPED OM SOME BAR SOMEWHERE THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY. NOT LERALLY, OF URSE, BUT JUDGG BY HOW HAPHAZARDLY THE GROUPS OF MAKEOVER PARTICIPANTS ARE PICKED, DO FEEL AS THOUGH A PRODUCER STUMBLED TO SOME WATERG HOLE AND ASKED, “WHO WANTS $1,000 AND A EE LUNCH?”THIS SEASON’S MAKEOVER SUBJECTS ARE—DMROLL PLEASE—LBIANS. TO WHICH YOU MIGHT ASK, “…LBIANS?” Y, JT GOOD OLD-FASHNED LBIANS. HELL, THEY’VE DONE ARMY VETS; THEY’VE DRAGGED UP UNRAPPRECIATED SCHOOL TEACHERS; THEY’VE EVEN TOUCHED UP THE ST OF LTLE WOMEN LA. ALL THAT’S LEFT IS LBIANS!EXPLAG THEIR CHOICE, HOST RUPL SAID, “FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF THE GAY LIBERATN MOVEMENT, TO THE AIDS CRISIS, TO TODAY, OUR QUEER SISTERS HAVE ALWAYS SHOWN UP WHEN THE LGBTQ MUNY NEED THEM THE MOST.” THAT’S VERY TE, BUT WAS A STATEMENT THAT LEFT ME SCRATCHG MY HEAD. RU MAK SOUND AS IF THE LBIANS WERE SHOWG UP AT THE MOMENTS QUEER HISTORY JT TO SUPPORT THE GS, BUT THE LS LGBTQ WERE JT AS IMPACTED AT THOSE TIM, TOO. RU DID, HOWEVER, MENTN THAT LBIANS OFTEN REMA THE SILENT HERO SUPPORTG THEIR ENTIRE MUNY, SO THIS WEEK WAS THE SHOW’S TRIBUTE TO THOSE CHAMPNS.MAKEOVER EPISOS ED TO PRENT A MORE FORMIDABLE CHALLENGE. CONTTANTS HAD TO DOLL UP A PARTICIPANT WHO WAS PLETELY UNFAIAR WH THE ART OF DRAG, AND DIDN’T KNOW WHERE TO BEG HELPG THE QUEENS THEY WERE PAIRED WH. NOW, EVERYONE WHO WALKS ONTO THE SET OF DRAG RACE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE GETTG TO, WHICH IS BOTH AN ADVANTAGE TO THE QUEENS, AND A SLIGHT DISADVANTAGE TO THE SHOW. THE MAKEOVERS ARE LS OF A CHALLENGE OF FDG THE RIGHT FORT LEVEL, AND MORE ABOUT PERFECTG A DRAG FAY REMBLANCE WHEN ALL IS SAID, DONE, PADD, AND BEATEN WH A MAKP BSH. THAT SAID, THE MAKEOVERS FUNCTN BETTER WHEN THE NTTANTS PERFORMG THEM FEEL SAFER. IN DRAG RACE SEASON 6, THE QUEENS HAD TO MAKEOVER STRAIGHT MEN WHO WERE ON THE SHOW AT THE BEHT OF THEIR SPO AND GIRLIENDS, LEAVG BOTH THE QUEENS AND THE STRAIGHT MEN UNFORTABLE. WH THE LBIANS PRENT, NONE OF THE REMAG QUEENS HAVE TO SPEND THEIR TIME GGG THEIR LEVEL OF SAFETY, WHICH IS A NICE FUNCTN OF THE LATER-SEASON MAKEOVER CHALLENG. YET, THEY STILL ONLY PRENT A FEW KERNELS OF TERTG NVERSATN.THIS WEEK, THAT ME OM THE QUEENS—ALL GAY MEN—CHATTG WH THEIR LBIAN FAY ABOUT THE PLITED SUBJECT OF RECLAIMG CERTA SLURS. ONE OF THE LBIANS, AMANDA, TOLD NTTANT JIMBO THAT SHE REFERS TO HERSELF AS A “SISSY DYKE,” PROMPTG FELLOW NTTANT JSI WILD TO ASK ABOUT THEIR RELATNSHIPS TO THE WORD.“FOR ME, ‘DYKE’ IS A RECLAMATN OF A WORD THAT WAS ED TO HURT , BUT REALLY MEANS BEG POWERFUL YOUR QUEER, WOMAN-LOVG SELF,” ANOTHER ONE OF THE LBIANS BEG MA OVER, ANGIE, SAID.“THERE’S AN ADD POLIL NNOTATN,” AMANDA CHIMED . “‘DYKE’ IS JT AN ENPSULATN OF MY POLICS, JT LIKE ‘QUEER.’” THE THIRD LBIAN THE ROOM, LISA, MENTNED THAT TOOK MUCH LONGER FOR HER TO BEE OKAY WH G THE WORD. “IT WAS A TERM THAT WAS ED AGAST ME WHEN I WAS BULLIED. BUT RECENTLY, ME AND MY MOTORCYCLE IENDS, WE DID THE QUEERS ON GEARS/DYK ON BIK, SO WAS REALLY NICE TO RECLAIM THE WORD WH A BUNCH OF OTHER QUEER WOMEN.” THEN, AMANDA POSED AN TERTG QUTN, WHICH REMAS A HOT-BUTTON ISSUE WH QUEER CIRCL (AND THE DRAG RACE FANDOM SELF): “DO YOU GUYS THK THAT LBIANS N SAY ‘FAG’ AND THAT GAY GUYS N SAY ‘DYKE,’ OR THAT SHOULD ONLY BE KEPT WH THOSE GROUPS TO SAY?” KANDY ME MENTNED THAT HER OWN MOTHER IS A BUTCH LBIAN, WHOM SHE REFERS TO AS A DYKE, BUT ALSO PLETELY UNRSTANDS WHY LBIANS WOULD NOT WANT A GAY MAN TO SAY . THE GAY EXPERIENCE AND THE LBIAN EXPERIENCE—THOUGH TRSILLY LKED BY QUEERNS—ARE HERENTLY DIFFERENT. JIMBO AGREED WH KANDY, ADDG, “I THK ’S ABOUT TENTN, DO TEND TO HURT ME, DO TEND TO BE FUNNY?”THERE’S ONE THG THAT’S FOR SURE: IF YOU’RE READG THIS, AND YOU’RE NOT A PART OF EHER OF THE MUNI, YOU SHOULDN’T BE SAYG ALL! BUT EVEN IF YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY , YOU N STILL LEARN SOMETHG OM . THAT’S THE BETY OF DRAG RACE AMASSG SUCH A LARGE STRAIGHT DIENCE.THE TYP OF NVERSATNS ARE MUCH MORE TERTG THAN THE ON THAT WERE AFFORD TO ON PREV MAKEOVER CHALLENG. WE ED TO HAVE TO WATCH QUEENS BEAT THE FACE OF A STRANGER WHILE ANSWERG THE SAME OLD QUTNS ABOUT THEIR HISTORY WH DRAG AND HOW MUCH THEIR FAI DO OR DO NOT ACCEPT THEM. IT GOT TIRG! LIKE SO MANY ASPECTS OF DRAG RACE OVER THE YEARS, THE MAKEOVER CHALLENGE NEED A MAKEOVER SELF. THE MAKEOVERS MIGHT BE ON THEIR LAST LEGS, BUT THERE IS STILL SOME VALUE LEFT THE DISCSNS THAT THEY GENERATE—EVEN IF RUPL PROBABLY DID JT SP A BIG WHEEL THAT LAND ON “LBIANS.”KEEP OBSSG! SIGN UP FOR THE DAILY BEAST’S OBSSED NEWSLETTER AND FOLLOW ON FACEBOOK, TWTER, INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK. COLEMAN SPIL

THE TERACTN OF DRAG QUEENS AND GAY MEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPAC

Drag queens, otherwise known as “female impersonators, " are most typilly gay cisgenr men (though there are many drag queens of varyg sexual orientatns and genr inti) who perform and enterta on stage nightclubs and bars. Although ’s unclear exactly why, drag kgs are ls mon gay muni, and are also ls visible popular culture and rearch on drag.

I’M 43 – BUT I’M MA TO FEEL LIKE A DOSR BY YOUNGER GAY MEN

That started to change the late 1960s and ’70s durg the sexual revolutn, when drag beme more proment wh gay male muni, and eventually, thanks part to RuPl, a part of popular culture.

Moncrieff & Lienard relay that the gay muni which drag was born serve as a backdrop due to their exclive and protected nature that was once necsary for the survival of the muni. In the study, Moncrieff & Lienard surveyed 133 gay men along wh a ntrol group of heterosexual men and women, about their perceptns of drag queens.

It is thought that this part due to the donng of overtly feme attire and stereotypil behavrs which are seen as ls sirable tras among gay men.

DRAG QUEENS CHANTG ‘WE’RE G FOR YOUR KIDS’ HURT GAY RIGHTS

They also risk beg discrimated agast not only public, but also wh the gay muny. The ma takeaway om the study is the hypothis that drag performers are motivated, spe the many sts, by how signalg, or performg wh the gay muny, promot “upward mobily” and stat wh a small, protected muny. The rearch fdgs scribed here shed some light on potential motivatg factors of those who perform drag, at least through the ey of some the gay muny.

The teractn of drag queens and gay men public and private spac. J Homosex. This study exam the issue of ternal segregatn wh the gay muny, focg on the ways by which the drag queen subculture is distanced om larger mastream gay society.

Through the e of stutnal ethnography, symbolic teractnism, and a naturalist approach to soclogy, the rearchers sought to unrstand the subjective experience of the drag queen, particular how drag queens perceive their teractns wh mastream gay society. Fdgs dite that spatial distance between the drag queens and the mastream gay men is pennt on both the social ntext and the level of profsnalizatn of the drag queen. Although drag queens' perceptns of their stat the gay muny are also pennt on the latter, discsns of relatnship difficulti and the qut for a long-term romantic partner illtrate that discrimatn wh the gay muny is both wispread and plex.

WHAT'S THE APPEAL OF DRAG QUEENS/KGS, OM A GAY STANDPOT?

The associatn between gay men's stereotypic beliefs about drag queens and their endorsement of hypermasculy. Killer Queens: screen reprentatns of the gay psychopath.

RECLAIMG THE F-WORD: ‘DRAG RACE’ CAST BREAKS DOWN USG QUEER SLURSHAVING A KIKIIT’S THE MAKEOVER CHALLENGE ON THIS WEEK’S “RUPL’S DRAG RACE ALL STARS,” WH THE QUEENS PUTTG LBIANS DRAG WHILE BATG THE RECLAIMG OF TRIGGERG QUEER SLURS.COLEMAN SPILENTERTAMENT CRICUPDATED JUL. 08, 2023 4:05AM EDT / PUBLISHED JUL. 07, 2023 1:34PM EDT PHOTO ILLTRATN BY ER O’FLYNN/THE DAILY BEAST/PARAMOUNT+THGS ARE G DOWN TO THE WIRE ON RUPL’S DRAG RACE ALL STARS 8, WHICH MEANS THAT THE WORKROOM IS BEG MORE SPAC, AND THE PRODUCERS ARE LOOKG FOR WAYS TO FILL AN ENTIRE HOUR OF TELEVISN. ON DRAG RACE, THAT TYPILLY MEANS A DREAD MAKEOVER CHALLENGE, WHERE THE REMAG ST OF QUEENS WILL HAVE TO DRAG UP A SET OF RANDOM PEOPLE WH A FG SHARED TRA, ROPED OM SOME BAR SOMEWHERE THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY. NOT LERALLY, OF URSE, BUT JUDGG BY HOW HAPHAZARDLY THE GROUPS OF MAKEOVER PARTICIPANTS ARE PICKED, DO FEEL AS THOUGH A PRODUCER STUMBLED TO SOME WATERG HOLE AND ASKED, “WHO WANTS $1,000 AND A EE LUNCH?”THIS SEASON’S MAKEOVER SUBJECTS ARE—DMROLL PLEASE—LBIANS. TO WHICH YOU MIGHT ASK, “…LBIANS?” Y, JT GOOD OLD-FASHNED LBIANS. HELL, THEY’VE DONE ARMY VETS; THEY’VE DRAGGED UP UNRAPPRECIATED SCHOOL TEACHERS; THEY’VE EVEN TOUCHED UP THE ST OF LTLE WOMEN LA. ALL THAT’S LEFT IS LBIANS!EXPLAG THEIR CHOICE, HOST RUPL SAID, “FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF THE GAY LIBERATN MOVEMENT, TO THE AIDS CRISIS, TO TODAY, OUR QUEER SISTERS HAVE ALWAYS SHOWN UP WHEN THE LGBTQ MUNY NEED THEM THE MOST.” THAT’S VERY TE, BUT WAS A STATEMENT THAT LEFT ME SCRATCHG MY HEAD. RU MAK SOUND AS IF THE LBIANS WERE SHOWG UP AT THE MOMENTS QUEER HISTORY JT TO SUPPORT THE GS, BUT THE LS LGBTQ WERE JT AS IMPACTED AT THOSE TIM, TOO. RU DID, HOWEVER, MENTN THAT LBIANS OFTEN REMA THE SILENT HERO SUPPORTG THEIR ENTIRE MUNY, SO THIS WEEK WAS THE SHOW’S TRIBUTE TO THOSE CHAMPNS.MAKEOVER EPISOS ED TO PRENT A MORE FORMIDABLE CHALLENGE. CONTTANTS HAD TO DOLL UP A PARTICIPANT WHO WAS PLETELY UNFAIAR WH THE ART OF DRAG, AND DIDN’T KNOW WHERE TO BEG HELPG THE QUEENS THEY WERE PAIRED WH. NOW, EVERYONE WHO WALKS ONTO THE SET OF DRAG RACE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE GETTG TO, WHICH IS BOTH AN ADVANTAGE TO THE QUEENS, AND A SLIGHT DISADVANTAGE TO THE SHOW. THE MAKEOVERS ARE LS OF A CHALLENGE OF FDG THE RIGHT FORT LEVEL, AND MORE ABOUT PERFECTG A DRAG FAY REMBLANCE WHEN ALL IS SAID, DONE, PADD, AND BEATEN WH A MAKP BSH. THAT SAID, THE MAKEOVERS FUNCTN BETTER WHEN THE NTTANTS PERFORMG THEM FEEL SAFER. IN DRAG RACE SEASON 6, THE QUEENS HAD TO MAKEOVER STRAIGHT MEN WHO WERE ON THE SHOW AT THE BEHT OF THEIR SPO AND GIRLIENDS, LEAVG BOTH THE QUEENS AND THE STRAIGHT MEN UNFORTABLE. WH THE LBIANS PRENT, NONE OF THE REMAG QUEENS HAVE TO SPEND THEIR TIME GGG THEIR LEVEL OF SAFETY, WHICH IS A NICE FUNCTN OF THE LATER-SEASON MAKEOVER CHALLENG. YET, THEY STILL ONLY PRENT A FEW KERNELS OF TERTG NVERSATN.THIS WEEK, THAT ME OM THE QUEENS—ALL GAY MEN—CHATTG WH THEIR LBIAN FAY ABOUT THE PLITED SUBJECT OF RECLAIMG CERTA SLURS. ONE OF THE LBIANS, AMANDA, TOLD NTTANT JIMBO THAT SHE REFERS TO HERSELF AS A “SISSY DYKE,” PROMPTG FELLOW NTTANT JSI WILD TO ASK ABOUT THEIR RELATNSHIPS TO THE WORD.“FOR ME, ‘DYKE’ IS A RECLAMATN OF A WORD THAT WAS ED TO HURT , BUT REALLY MEANS BEG POWERFUL YOUR QUEER, WOMAN-LOVG SELF,” ANOTHER ONE OF THE LBIANS BEG MA OVER, ANGIE, SAID.“THERE’S AN ADD POLIL NNOTATN,” AMANDA CHIMED . “‘DYKE’ IS JT AN ENPSULATN OF MY POLICS, JT LIKE ‘QUEER.’” THE THIRD LBIAN THE ROOM, LISA, MENTNED THAT TOOK MUCH LONGER FOR HER TO BEE OKAY WH G THE WORD. “IT WAS A TERM THAT WAS ED AGAST ME WHEN I WAS BULLIED. BUT RECENTLY, ME AND MY MOTORCYCLE IENDS, WE DID THE QUEERS ON GEARS/DYK ON BIK, SO WAS REALLY NICE TO RECLAIM THE WORD WH A BUNCH OF OTHER QUEER WOMEN.” THEN, AMANDA POSED AN TERTG QUTN, WHICH REMAS A HOT-BUTTON ISSUE WH QUEER CIRCL (AND THE DRAG RACE FANDOM SELF): “DO YOU GUYS THK THAT LBIANS N SAY ‘FAG’ AND THAT GAY GUYS N SAY ‘DYKE,’ OR THAT SHOULD ONLY BE KEPT WH THOSE GROUPS TO SAY?” KANDY ME MENTNED THAT HER OWN MOTHER IS A BUTCH LBIAN, WHOM SHE REFERS TO AS A DYKE, BUT ALSO PLETELY UNRSTANDS WHY LBIANS WOULD NOT WANT A GAY MAN TO SAY . THE GAY EXPERIENCE AND THE LBIAN EXPERIENCE—THOUGH TRSILLY LKED BY QUEERNS—ARE HERENTLY DIFFERENT. JIMBO AGREED WH KANDY, ADDG, “I THK ’S ABOUT TENTN, DO TEND TO HURT ME, DO TEND TO BE FUNNY?”THERE’S ONE THG THAT’S FOR SURE: IF YOU’RE READG THIS, AND YOU’RE NOT A PART OF EHER OF THE MUNI, YOU SHOULDN’T BE SAYG ALL! BUT EVEN IF YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY , YOU N STILL LEARN SOMETHG OM . THAT’S THE BETY OF DRAG RACE AMASSG SUCH A LARGE STRAIGHT DIENCE.THE TYP OF NVERSATNS ARE MUCH MORE TERTG THAN THE ON THAT WERE AFFORD TO ON PREV MAKEOVER CHALLENG. WE ED TO HAVE TO WATCH QUEENS BEAT THE FACE OF A STRANGER WHILE ANSWERG THE SAME OLD QUTNS ABOUT THEIR HISTORY WH DRAG AND HOW MUCH THEIR FAI DO OR DO NOT ACCEPT THEM. IT GOT TIRG! LIKE SO MANY ASPECTS OF DRAG RACE OVER THE YEARS, THE MAKEOVER CHALLENGE NEED A MAKEOVER SELF. THE MAKEOVERS MIGHT BE ON THEIR LAST LEGS, BUT THERE IS STILL SOME VALUE LEFT THE DISCSNS THAT THEY GENERATE—EVEN IF RUPL PROBABLY DID JT SP A BIG WHEEL THAT LAND ON “LBIANS.”KEEP OBSSG! SIGN UP FOR THE DAILY BEAST’S OBSSED NEWSLETTER AND FOLLOW ON FACEBOOK, TWTER, INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK. COLEMAN SPIL

Suici and suici attempts the lbian and gay muny. Why Do Some Gay Men Intify as "Straight-Actg" and How Is It Related to Well-Beg?

A person who is trans n be gay or straight. So, let's sum this sucker up: Not all trans people are drag queens, but some drag queens are trans 's not okay to e the words "tranny" or "she-male" to talk about another person's appearance unls you're a seasoned drag performer and gay person willg to stand up and make an argument about "takg back" the you are a cis-genred person, don't make assumptns and don't e language if even a part of you has ncerns that you're g whout the full ntext.

In recent years, such blunt, outrageo rhetoric om the gay left has bee pretty faiar. Two years ago, the San Francis Gay Men’s Chos released a YouTube vio which 81 of s members sang a song wh the rea: “We’ll nvert your children / Happens b by b.