MOROCCO: TWO HAMAM EXPERIENCES MOROCCAN STYLE ~ VAGAYBOND

Contents:

• VERY VERY GAY IENDLY HAMAM - DAVUTPASA ISKELE HAMAMI
• WHAT’S IT LIKE TO BE GAY … MOROC?
• VAGAYBOND
• FIZ AğA GAY HAMAMı Mı? – CIHANGIR GAY HAMAMLARı
• LBIAN MLIM IRANIANS SAHAR MOSLEH & MARYAM IRANFAR HAVE MARRIAGE BLSED BY GAY IMAM IN SWEN
• OMAR SHARIF JR. : GAY ET ANT, QUI T LE PET-FILS DU LéGENDAIRE ACTR ?
• IS OMAR SHARIF GAY?
• THE BT GAY IENDLY HAMMAM ISTANBUL - ISTANBUL FOM
• GAY IENDLY HAMAM - DAVUTPASA ISKELE HAMAMI
• CAGALOGLU HAMAMISTANBULMENUHOTELSON TODAYBARS & CAFéSDANCE CLUBSSNASMASSAGECY GUITOURSGAY MAPCAGALOGLU HAMAM

VERY VERY GAY IENDLY HAMAM - DAVUTPASA ISKELE HAMAMI

I tried about 6 hamams but this place is so better and higher is more gay iendly but I remend of experience: January 2018Ask n2018 about Davutpasa Iskele Hamami7 Thank n2018 This review is the subjective opn of a Tripadvisor member and not of Tripadvisor LLC.

Read our transparency report to learn for your ments about hamam but need to clarify that this hamam is not a gay we have many kd of ctomers om Turkey and om all over the world and we are tryg for bt to servic. Owner and management changed here and we are not happy about that our hamam known as a gay hamam...

WHAT’S IT LIKE TO BE GAY … MOROC?

N you please check/ed your ment about hamam aga(pecially "gay" ntent)Thanks and Bt RegardskprimaszDubai, Uned Arab EmiratReviewed Augt 29, 2017 via mobile Vised today, 10 m walk om metro statn Yenkapi. N you please check/ed your ment about hamam aga(pecially "gay" ntent)Thanks and Bt RegardsReviewed April 18, 2017 via mobile Very good place to be, crew staff very iendly, massage and foam massage very profnal mosr if are a man and want to see what is a real haman go there. If you are lookg a place to meet other gay upl for y wh oriental touch, you are at the wrong fom….

In addn, there are no laws agast homosexualy Turkey, which do not fe self as an Islamic untry, even though gay people lack some protectns afford to heteros. Even if the majory of the populatn is om the islam belief, Turkey is a secular state and there are no laws agast homosexual relatns or beg a homosexual dividual….

There are no laws or regulatns not to allow gay upl to the hamams… It is pure discrimatn unr the laws… But, hamams are not the right place to meet other gay upl…. For those who heard about the se of Ray Cole—a Brish tourist arrted last year Marrakech, Moroc, on spicn of mtg “homosexual acts” and sentenced to four months’ hard time a Morocn jail prr to his early release— is perhaps difficult to image that Moroc was somethg of a gay paradise for whe men of standg the aftermath of World War II. Somethg of the gay scene moved to Marrakech, but suffice to say, is far removed om Tangier’s heyday and very much nfed to the margs.

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Gay life tak place the pths of certa hammams (Turkish baths) and the back rows of cemas, if people happen to know the right spots; needls to say, cisg plays an important role.

There are no gay bars, but a mix of gay and straight patrons n be found clubs that ter primarily to Wterners.

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Seen this light, the se of Ray Cole n be said to be another part of the story of the wherg away of gay life Moroc, or at the very least, the end of turng of a bld eye to . But what is more signifint about Cole’s se is that monstrat the te realy for gay men Moroc, namely, that while the laws on homosexualy are enforced nsistently, there is evintly a double standard employed their applitn.

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The lerature available to potential gay travelers to Moroc—of which there is a great al sce, spe of laws and social norms there, Moroc remas a prime statn for package holiday-goers om Bra, France, and Germany—is very clear settg out what is and isn’t acceptable. Gay upl should rea om public displays of affectn and would be advised to seek out hotels and riads (a tradnal hoe wh an terr urtyard) known to be gay-iendly.

OMAR SHARIF JR. : GAY ET ANT, QUI T LE PET-FILS DU LéGENDAIRE ACTR ?

The scen of Cole’s fay greetg him at Bra’s Gatwick Airport ntrast starkly wh how gay men are treated Morocn society: looked down upon, rejected by their fai, dismissed wh the Maghrebi Arabic slur zamel. “More than [Cole’s] own se, what happened to him shows how vulnerable gay Morocns are, ”Abllah Taïa, a Morocn wrer and filmmaker who now liv exile, wrote The Guardian, “They are at the mercy of anyone. ” To the qutn of what is like to be gay Moroc, then, the answer very much means one thg to a Wtern visor and que another to Morocn natnals, who are nsired by their society and their state to be of lser value.

Why is “easier to be gay than straight” a society where everyone, homosexual and otherwise, liv the closetYasser, a 26-year-old artist, was takg me on an impromptu tour of his hometown of Jeddah, Sdi Arabia, on a swelterg September afternoon. Yasser is homosexual, or so we would scribe him the Wt, and the barbershop we vised ters to gay men. He wasn’t worried about the gay-themed nature of his tour—he didn’t want to be ught alone wh a woman.

”This legal and public nmnatn notwhstandg, the kgdom leav nsirable space for homosexual behavr. As long as gays and lbians mata a public ont of obeisance to Wahhabist norms, they are left to do what they want private. “You n be cised anywhere Sdi Arabia, any time of the day, ” said Radwan, a 42-year-old gay Sdi Amerin who grew up var Wtern ci and now liv Jeddah.

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But what seems more startlg, at least om a Wtern perspective, is that some of the men havg sex wh other men don’t nsir themselv gay. But as a more Wternized notn of gayns—a notn that strs orientatn over acts—tak hold the untry, will this lite balance survive? There’s an overwhelmg number of people who turn to lbianism, ” Yasm said, addg that the number of men the kgdom who turn to gay sex is even greater.

Francis, a 34-year-old bety queen om the Philipp ( 2003 he won a gay bety pageant held a private hoe Jeddah by a group of Filipos), reported that he’s had sex wh Sdi men whose wiv were pregnant or menstatg; when those circumstanc changed, most of the men stopped llg. ” John Bradley, the thor of Sdi Arabia Exposed: Insi a Kgdom Crisis (2005), says that most male Wtern expatriat here, gay or not, have been proposned by Sdi men drivg by “at any time of the day or night, que openly and ually very, very persistently.

Jason, a South Ain tor who has lived Jeddah sce 2002, not that although South Ai allows gay marriage, “’s as though there are more gays here.

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JED-TO-HEART: I lie my work JED-TO-HEART: wh my fay JED-TO-HEART: but I’m gay JED-TO-HEART: I n’t say I’m gay jedbut: is that hard?

“I’m worried the mutawwa' might e, ” Anajedtop said, and shed off to tch the eveng The History of Sexualy, a multivolume work published the 1970s and ’80s, Michel Fouult proposed his famo this that Wtern amic, medil, and polil disurse of the 18th and 19th centuri had produced the ia of the homosexual as a viant type: In Wtern society, homosexualy changed om beg a behavr (what you do) to an inty (who you are). “‘Sexualy’ is distguished not between ‘homosexual’ and ‘heterosexual’ but between takg pleasure and submtg to someone (beg ed for pleasure), ” the soclogist Stephen O. The Sdis jt look at this as, ‘He don’t like football, ’” Dave, a gay Amerin teacher who first moved to Sdi Arabia 1978, told me.

However much this may seem like sophistry, is keepg wh a long-standg Mlim tradn of acmodatg homosexual impuls, if not homosexual inty. A magaze edor Jeddah told me that many boys Mec, where he grew up, have sexual relatns wh men, but they don’t see themselv as gay.

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Abubaker Bagar, a human-rights activist based Jeddah, explaed that homosexualy n be viewed as a phase. ” This view of sexual behavr, batn wh the strict segregatn of the sex, serv to foster homosexual acts, shiftg the stigma onto bottoms and allowg olr men to exce their younger behavr—their time as bottoms—as mere youthful Islamic Homosexuali, the anthropologist Will Rose shows that this “stat-differentiated pattern”— whereby ’s OK to be a top but not a bottom—has s roots Gre-Roman culture, and he emphasiz that the top-bottom power dynamic is monly exprsed relatns between olr men and younger boys.

’”Yet a paradox exists at the heart of Sdi nceptns of gay sex and sexual inty: Dpe their seemgly flexible view of sexualy, most of the Sdis I terviewed, cludg those men who intify themselv as gay, nsir sodomy a grave s. His sense of propriety is wily shared: Few gay parti occur the untry durg the holy month. ” Zahar, a 41-year-old Sdi who has traveled wily throughout the world, urged me not to wre about Islam and homosexualy; to do so, he said, is to cut off bate, bee “’s always the relign that holds people back.

Rowson, a profsor at New York Universy who is workg on a book about homosexualy medieval Islamic society. For many centuri, Rowson says, the vers were wily thought to perta to za, but sce the early 20th century, they have been largely assumed to proscribe homosexual behavr.

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He and most other scholars the field believe that at about that time, Middle Eastern attus toward homosexualy fundamentally shifted.

At the turn of the century, Islamic society began to exprs revulsn at the ncept of homosexualy, even if was nfed only to ltful thoughts, and this distaste beme more pronounced wh the flux of Wtern media. ”Even Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab—the 18th- century relig scholar who found Wahhabism—seems to draw a distctn between homosexual sir and homosexual acts, acrdg to Natana DeLong-Bas, the thor of Wahhabi Islam: From Revival and Reform to Global Jihad (2004). The clost Abd al-Wahhab me to touchg upon the topic of homosexualy was a scriptn of an effemate man who is terted other men at a weddg banquet.

)The gay men I terviewed Jeddah and Riyadh lghed when I asked them if they worried about beg executed. Although they do fear the mutawwa' to some gree, they believe the Hoe of Sd isn’t terted a wispread hunt of homosexuals. “If they wanted to arrt all the gay people Sdi Arabia, ” Misfir, my chat-room gui, told me—repeatg what he says was a police officer’s ment—“they’d have to put a fence around the whole untry.