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class><div class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><p><em><span>This is the send post based on rear rpons to my draft </span><a href=" rel>Unbeliever’s Manifto</a><span>, which I requted your thoughts, objectns, cricisms before I release to the public. </span></em></p><p><em><span>The first of the rponse says related to </span><a href=" rel>gay marriage</a><span> and to what extent may have “stroyed” tradnal notns of marriage. In this one, I’ll clarify why I believe the genr movement “ni realy” while the gay rights movement do not, rponse to some rear objectns, and also share some thoughts about how one uld have led to the other. </span></em></p><p><em><span>Unlike the first post, this one relat too much to the arguments the </span><a href=" rel>Manifto</a><span> that I am not yet prepared to release to the public, so will be mostly paywalled. After the release, however, I’ll unlock this as well. </span></em></p><p></p><p>~Sarah </p><div><hr /></div><p></p><p>An creasgly mon ia I enunter among liberals who are alarmed by the genr inty movement is a kd of hdsight regret—a feelg that the “slippery slope” argument wield by those opposed to gay rights a ago has turned out to be more te than they would like. </p><p><span>Slippery slope is not my favore argument generally—all new stanc have further implitns, so nearly </span><em>every claim</em><span> creat a slope of some kd. Not to mentn, as society has ntradictg mments there is no reason that we mt sli down any particular slope forever— n lli wh another, more pellg slope. </span></p><p><span>I thk the argument is often more </span><em>wrong</em><span> than </span><em>bad</em><span>. Slippery slop exist, but is very hard to predict how the logic of a movement will proceed. To do so wh any kd of accuracy, you mt unrstand s unrlyg nature, which is too easy to mistake. </span><br /><br /><span>For example: if someone had argued that gay marriage would evably lead to, say, marriage between animals and humans, I would reply that they are wrong not bee gay marriage do not move down </span><em><strong>some</strong></em><span> slope, but bee do not go down </span><em><strong>that</strong></em><span> one. In other words, the logic isn’t wrong, but the norm that gay marriage did fact “loosen” has been misintified. </span></p><p>In that rpect, I thk that those who intify the genr movement as downhill om the “slippery slope” created by the gay rights movement are misintifyg the fundamental natur of both. </p><p><span>Before we dive , let’s grant some ncsns. </span><br /><br /><span>Movements are plex and multi-dimensnal…there n be many slop created at once, and I don’t ny that the mpaign for gay rights has ntributed to the succs of the genr inty movement some rpects. </span></p><p><span>For example, is unniable that the gay rights movement helped mastream the poisono nflatn of polics wh moraly by labelg all iologil disagreement as “hate” or a “phobia”. It is now monplace to fd any disagreement wh a leftist social project st as evince of some form of bigotry, and this tactic is liberally applied by the genr inty movement to great effect. </span><br /><br /><span>More broadly, queer activism helped forward the radil notn that </span><em>social norms are herently discrimatory, that they privilege some over others. “</em><span>Heteronormativy” for example, privileg heterosexualy by unrstandg as the “normal orientatn”, therefore creatg a “sex hierarchy” which other orientatns are emed “abnormal”. It do not matter that heterosexualy is the most mon sexualy among humans, and that is val for the ntuatn of the human race. The efulns and ratnaly of the norm are not important. What matters is that the norm </span><em>exclus</em><span>, and the value hierarchy of the morn left, nothg n be worse. This too eased the path for genr activists. One might argue, for example, that do not make sense to alter our existg bathroom norms to acmodate what is a very small percentage of the populatn. Perhaps trans people n e dited sgle-e rooms, or simply bear the nvenience of beg “validated” so that femal do not bear a greater risk to their safety. In the morn left, however, this mon-sense norm is an egreg vlatn bee </span><em>exclus</em><span>—mak some people feel as if they are ls equal. Even language that “exclus” is tolerable, no matter how accurate and eful might be for the vast majory of the populatn. “Breastfeedg” might exclu trans men who do not feel that their breasts should be breasts—therefore, the logic go, is better to replace wh the clive term “chtfeedg”. </span></p><p>It is also te that the lavishly-fund and polilly powerful NGO apparat that gays and lbians built up today exists largely to serve the needs of the genr inty movement. Whout this stutnal mcle, is unlikely that they would have progrsed so far lawmakg bodi. </p><p>Fally, the acronym alone is a huge advantage to genrists. Confed but well-meang people who do not want to fd themselv on the “wrong si of history” nflate the two movements and “support” the T whout much further thought.</p><p>Havg nced all that, let’s move on to the ma urse. What is the most relevant distctn between the two movements? </p><p></p><div><hr /></div><p></p></div></div><div class="visibily-check"></div><div data-ttid="paywall" data-ponent-name="Paywall" class="paywall"><h2 class="paywall-tle">Keep readg wh a 7-day ee trial</h2><div class="paywall-ee-trial-subtle"><p translated class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Text-module__ret--dW0zZ paywall-subtle">Subscribe to <div class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Text-module__weight-bold--Ps9DB ontend-pencraft-Text-module__font-style-alic--pVGY_ ontend-pencraft-Text-module__ret--dW0zZ">Hold That Thought by Sarah Hair </div> to keep readg this post and get 7 days of ee accs to the full post archiv.</p></div><div class="paywall-cta"><a href=" native><button tabInx="0" type="button" class="button subscribe-btn">Start trial</button></a></div><div class="paywall-log"><a href=" native>Already a paid subscriber? <b>Sign </b></a></div></div></div></article></div></div></div></div><div class="footer-wrap publitn-footer"><div class="visibily-check"></div><div class="footer themed-background"><div class="ntaer"><div class="footer-blurbs"><div class="footer-pyright-blurb">© 2023 Sarah Hair</div><div class="footer-terms-blurb"><a href=" target="__blank">Privacy</a><span> ∙ </span><a href=" target="__blank">Terms</a><span> ∙ </span><a href=" target="__blank">Collectn notice</a></div></div><div class="footer-buttons"><a native href=" class="footer-substack-cta start-publishg"><svg role="img" width="1000" height="1000" viewBox="0 0 1000 1000" fill="#FF6719" stroke-width="1.8" stroke="none" xmlns="><g><tle>

gay rights slippery slope

What is the difference between gay rights and trans rights? Why do matter?

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BEWARE OF THE GAY MARRIAGE SLIPPERY SLOPE

People agast gay marriage sometim e the "slippery slope" argument, that basilly says that if we legalize gay marriage, that will lead to a whole bunch of other thgs such as polygamy, polyandry, polygyny and other "poly" varieti. Gay marriage will lead to polygamy, btialy, murr and God forbid, Cat-dogs! Substute the word "slavery" wh "gay marriage" and is exactly what several proment relig lears and policians are sayg today.

THE SUPREME COURT’S RULG ON REFG GAY BS

Gay men will marry gay men. Straight people will not turn gay. AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTlettersImageLorie Smh, center, said her Christian fah required her to turn away ctomers seekg servic to celebrate same-sex Moneymaker/Getty ImagTo the Edor:Re “Web Digner Ws Right to Turn Away Gay People” (ont page, July 1):Given the Supreme Court’s track rerd throughout the past year — cludg, most notably, the guttg of affirmative actn and feral abortn protectns — I shouldn’t have been surprised when, along iologil l, led favor of a web signer who would refe a same-sex uple seekg her servic.

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The day when signs readg “Gays not served here” bee a realy. There are those wh scerely held relig beliefs who ce scriptural referenc that support segregatn of the rac, as do those who jtify their anti-gay bias this manner. It would be sweet jtice if the Thomas were nied service when they try to orr an anniversary other words, this is a slippery BudzskiEvanston, the Edor:Re “Christians and Drag Queens Both Defend the First Amendment, ” by David French (lumn, July 1):I agree that eedom of speech clus both lettg someone give hateful speech (if not cg vlence) and also not forcg someone to speak agast their said, how is a web signer who creat a weddg page for a gay uple seen as beg forced to speak agast her nscience?

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class><div class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><p><em><span>This is the send post based on rear rpons to my draft </span><a href=" rel>Unbeliever’s Manifto</a><span>, which I requted your thoughts, objectns, cricisms before I release to the public. </span></em></p><p><em><span>The first of the rponse says related to </span><a href=" rel>gay marriage</a><span> and to what extent may have “stroyed” tradnal notns of marriage. In this one, I’ll clarify why I believe the genr movement “ni realy” while the gay rights movement do not, rponse to some rear objectns, and also share some thoughts about how one uld have led to the other. </span></em></p><p><em><span>Unlike the first post, this one relat too much to the arguments the </span><a href=" rel>Manifto</a><span> that I am not yet prepared to release to the public, so will be mostly paywalled. After the release, however, I’ll unlock this as well. </span></em></p><p></p><p>~Sarah </p><div><hr /></div><p></p><p>An creasgly mon ia I enunter among liberals who are alarmed by the genr inty movement is a kd of hdsight regret—a feelg that the “slippery slope” argument wield by those opposed to gay rights a ago has turned out to be more te than they would like. </p><p><span>Slippery slope is not my favore argument generally—all new stanc have further implitns, so nearly </span><em>every claim</em><span> creat a slope of some kd. Not to mentn, as society has ntradictg mments there is no reason that we mt sli down any particular slope forever— n lli wh another, more pellg slope. </span></p><p><span>I thk the argument is often more </span><em>wrong</em><span> than </span><em>bad</em><span>. Slippery slop exist, but is very hard to predict how the logic of a movement will proceed. To do so wh any kd of accuracy, you mt unrstand s unrlyg nature, which is too easy to mistake. </span><br /><br /><span>For example: if someone had argued that gay marriage would evably lead to, say, marriage between animals and humans, I would reply that they are wrong not bee gay marriage do not move down </span><em><strong>some</strong></em><span> slope, but bee do not go down </span><em><strong>that</strong></em><span> one. In other words, the logic isn’t wrong, but the norm that gay marriage did fact “loosen” has been misintified. </span></p><p>In that rpect, I thk that those who intify the genr movement as downhill om the “slippery slope” created by the gay rights movement are misintifyg the fundamental natur of both. </p><p><span>Before we dive , let’s grant some ncsns. </span><br /><br /><span>Movements are plex and multi-dimensnal…there n be many slop created at once, and I don’t ny that the mpaign for gay rights has ntributed to the succs of the genr inty movement some rpects. </span></p><p><span>For example, is unniable that the gay rights movement helped mastream the poisono nflatn of polics wh moraly by labelg all iologil disagreement as “hate” or a “phobia”. It is now monplace to fd any disagreement wh a leftist social project st as evince of some form of bigotry, and this tactic is liberally applied by the genr inty movement to great effect. </span><br /><br /><span>More broadly, queer activism helped forward the radil notn that </span><em>social norms are herently discrimatory, that they privilege some over others. “</em><span>Heteronormativy” for example, privileg heterosexualy by unrstandg as the “normal orientatn”, therefore creatg a “sex hierarchy” which other orientatns are emed “abnormal”. It do not matter that heterosexualy is the most mon sexualy among humans, and that is val for the ntuatn of the human race. The efulns and ratnaly of the norm are not important. What matters is that the norm </span><em>exclus</em><span>, and the value hierarchy of the morn left, nothg n be worse. This too eased the path for genr activists. One might argue, for example, that do not make sense to alter our existg bathroom norms to acmodate what is a very small percentage of the populatn. Perhaps trans people n e dited sgle-e rooms, or simply bear the nvenience of beg “validated” so that femal do not bear a greater risk to their safety. In the morn left, however, this mon-sense norm is an egreg vlatn bee </span><em>exclus</em><span>—mak some people feel as if they are ls equal. Even language that “exclus” is tolerable, no matter how accurate and eful might be for the vast majory of the populatn. “Breastfeedg” might exclu trans men who do not feel that their breasts should be breasts—therefore, the logic go, is better to replace wh the clive term “chtfeedg”. </span></p><p>It is also te that the lavishly-fund and polilly powerful NGO apparat that gays and lbians built up today exists largely to serve the needs of the genr inty movement. Whout this stutnal mcle, is unlikely that they would have progrsed so far lawmakg bodi. </p><p>Fally, the acronym alone is a huge advantage to genrists. 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