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Dpe anti-discrimatn laws many stat that require Christian bakery owners to bake k for same-sex weddgs, 13 LGBT and gay-owned bakeri objected to one man's requt when he asked if they'd make a pro-tradnal marriage ke that would read "gay marriage is wrong." All refed to back the ke and one person even cursed at the Christian man for "hate speech" and said a ke supportg tradnal marriage "went agast their beliefs."

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SUPREME COURT TOSS LG AGAST BAKERS WHO REFED KE FOR GAY UPLE

Rears disagree wh David Brooks’s argument that ligatn is not the bt way to promote gay marriage. * gay couple and bakery *

The Supreme Court on Monday threw out a lg agast two Oregon bakers who refed to bake a weddg ke for a lbian uple, Melissa and Aaron Kle, ced relig beliefs as their reason for not providg servic for a gay weddg.

IN NARROW OPN, SUPREME COURT RUL FOR BAKER IN GAY-RIGHTS CASE

* gay couple and bakery *

WASHINGTON SUPREME COURT RULES AGAINST FLORIST WHO REFUSED SERVICE FOR GAY COUPLE'S WEDDINGOn Monday, the Supreme Court sent the Kle se back down to a lower urt "for further nsiratn light of" their Colorado central disput the se -- which ps LGBT rights agast relig eedom nsiratns -- have yet to be addrsed by the Supreme Court. Kle then said the bakery do not make k for gay weddgs, urt documents 's mother, who was wh her, said Kle quoted the Bible when explag his Kles had to pay a $135, 000 judgment to the uple for discrimatg agast them vlatn of a state public acmodatns statute.

The se began when a same-sex uple Colorado — Charlie Craig and Dave Mulls — filed a plat wh the state civil-rights missn after baker Jack Phillips told them that he did not sign ctom k for gay upl.

US SUPREME COURT BACKS COLORADO BAKER'S GAY WEDDG KE SNUB

Did you hear about the gay bakery Greenwich Village – Sweetie Pi, Cupk and More -- that refed to bake a weddg ke for a straight uple? Can you image? When asked why they refed, the two gay bakers – Adam and Steve – said, “While we have nothg agast straight people – some of our bt iends are heteros – we don’t thk straight people should fall to some ‘protected class.’ In other words, ’s our bakery and we n do whatever we want.” * gay couple and bakery *

Kennedy said is "unexceptnal" that Colorado law "n protect gay persons acquirg products and servic on the same terms and ndns that are offered to other members of the public, " but at the same time, "the law mt be applied a manner that is ntral toward relign. Moreover, the state law at the time afford storekeepers some latu to cle creatg specific msag they nsired offensive, and the Colorado missn had prevly allowed three different bakers to refe to put an anti-gay msage on a ke. " Throughout the opn, Kennedy seemed to be balancg the ledger, tryg not to disturb public acmodatn laws like the one Colorado and reeratg that gay people may "not be treated as outsts.

" While a member of the clergy clearly nnot be forced to nduct a weddg ceremony for a same-sex uple, vlatn of his relig views, Kennedy said, Colorado "n protect gay persons, jt as n protect other class of dividuals. He closed by sayg that "the oute of s like this other circumstanc mt awa further elaboratn the urts, all the ntext of regnizg that the disput mt be rolved wh tolerance, whout undue disrpect to scere relig beliefs, and whout subjectg gay persons to digni when they seek goods and servic an open market.

'THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME': WHY A GAY UPLE TOOK THEIR KE SE TO THE SUPREME URT

They argued that as the Colorado missn had prevly allowed bakers to refe to rate k wh anti-gay signs, the missn's cisn to le agast Phillips was herently nsistent and discrimated agast some relig groups. Image source, RtersImage ptn, Jack Phillips has temporarily stopped makg weddg kThe US Supreme Court has led favour of a baker Colorado who refed to make a weddg ke for a gay Colorado state urt had found that baker Jack Phillips' cisn to turn away David Mulls and Charlie Craig 2012 was unlawful the Supreme Court led on Monday a 7-2 vote that that cisn had vlated Mr Phillips' rights.

The nservative Christian ced his relig beliefs refg rights groups feared a lg agast the uple uld set a precent for treatg gay marriag differently om heterosexual the Supreme Court's verdict stead foc specifilly on Mr Phillips' se.

THE COLORADO BAKERY THAT REFED TO SERVE A GAY COUPLE IS ABOUT TO GET A SUPREME COURT RULG

The cisn do not state that florists, photographers, or other servic n now refe to work wh gay lg three years after the Supreme Court ma same-sex marriage the law of the land s landmark Obergefell v Hodg source, Getty ImagImage ptn, David Mulls (left) and Charlie Craig wanted a weddg ke to celebrate their planned marriageWhat did Monday's lg say? Jtice Anthony Kennedy wrote that while Colorado law "n protect gay persons acquirg products and servic... A siar 'gay ke' row is ongog Northern Ireland.

THE BAKER, THE GAY COUPLE AND THE WEDDG CAKE

The Supreme Court Belfast has yet to release an opn on a lower urt lg that found the owners of a bakery discrimated agast a gay activist for refg to bake a ke wh the slogan "Support Gay Marriage" row began May 2014, when gay activist Gareth Lee placed an orr for a ke wh the gay marriage days later, the Christian-owned Ashers bakery ncelled the orr sayg "would ntradict their relig beliefs".

”An earlier cisn the Kern unty superr urt also went Miller’s way, but was later vated by the fifth district urt of appeal, which sent the lawsu back to the cisn as a Colorado baker is challengg a lg he vlated that state’s anti-discrimatn law by refg to make a ke celebratg a genr baker, Jack Phillips, separately won a partial US supreme urt victory after refg on relig grounds to make a gay uple’s weddg ke a ago. Colorado Civil Rights Commissn is, at base, a se volvg a Christian baker and bakery owner who refed to make a weddg ke for a gay uple bee of their sexual orientatn.

Owner and baker Jack Phillips refed, explag that he do not support gay marriage bee go agast his relig fah. • The uple’s attorney, Jam Esseks, told The New Yorker an terview earlier this year that bs owners n believe whatever they want to believe, and say whatever they want to say, cludg, for example, “‘I thk gay people shouldn’t be able to get married. Top urt to hear baker's relig objectn to makg ke for gay uple [Rters]• Jtic to Hear Case on Relig Objectns to Same-Sex Marriage [NYT]• Cake Shop Fac Legal Actn For Refg to Make Anti LGBT Cake [E].

GAY WEDDG KE LG REAFFIRMS THAT BS N’T DISCRIMATE

In a prev se, the seven-member missn had found Phillips vlatn of the state’s nondiscrimatn laws for refg service to a gay uple who orred a weddg ke 2012 (the Supreme Court overturned the missn’s cisn a narrow 2018 lg, fdg that s members displayed “clear and impermissible hostily” to relign) Colorado Civil Rights Commissn cled NBC News’ requt for ment, sayg that n’t ment on pendg the missn dropped Srda’s se, she filed a separate lawsu last June argug that Masterpiece Cakhop vlated both Colorado’s Anti-Discrimatn Act and the Colorado Consumer Protectn Act. Kathryn Stt Osler/The Denver Post, via Getty ImagTo the Edor:Re “How Not to Advance Gay Marriage” (lumn, Dec. A baker, vlatn of Colorado’s anti-discrimatn law, ref to provi to a gay uple a service he provis to everyone else, and acrdg to Mr.

13 GAY BAKERI REFE TO MAKE TRADNAL MARRIAGE CAKE WH THE MSAGE: 'GAY MARRIAGE IS WRONG'

(Bishop) GENE ROBINSONWASHINGTONThe wrer, the retired Epispal bishop of New Hampshire, was the first openly gay Epispal the Edor:I’m glad David Brooks remd that he fervently supports gay marriage. And y, “the ti of opn is quickly swgg favor of gay marriage. Colorado Civil Rights Commissn, the Supreme Court se about a baker who refed to make a weddg ke for a gay uple, rais important qutns about public acmodatn, ee speech and relig David Brooks nigrat the importance of the se, sayg “’s jt a ke” rather somethg of mer, like a hoe or a job — which is not the pot.

Muny should be neighborly and patient the face of digni thrown at by evangelils bee, among other reasons, “the ti of opn is quickly swgg favor of gay marriage. ” But such tis n turn on a dime, as I have wnsed my own I me out 1979-80, the future was lookg bright for the gay muny. Dozens of ci across the untry had enacted ordanc that protected lbian and gay people om discrimatn.

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One by one, ci repealed those anti-discrimatn ordanc, and lbians and gay men certa fields, like teachg, began to lose their jobs. Brooks really thk for a mute that Jack Phillips would have e to dner at the home of a gay uple, and then been drawn like a fly to honey to bake their weddg ke? Brooks’s fantasy were to have e to un, what about all the other gay upl around the untry who would ntue to be nied their ke?

Brooks, but when you say that you “fervently support gay marriage” but oppose this lawsu, my rponse is: You n’t have your ke and eat , MAGID HARTMINNEAPOLISTo the Edor:Re “A Baker’s First Amendment Rights, ” by Robert P. A versn of this article appears prt on, Sectn SR, Page 8 of the New York edn wh the headle: A Baker’s Rebuff of a Gay Couple. Some people might dismiss the prcipl at stake the Masterpiece Cakhop se by argug that a gay uple n simply purchase their ke elsewhere.

If a pany n refe to sell weddg k to a gay uple on the basis of relig nvictns, n a rtrant also then refe to serve food to a divorcée or an unmarried uple wh a child?

I'M GAY & I BAKE. BUT DO THAT MAKE BAKG "GAY"?

”In McPherson’s re-tellg to Bowman-Cryer and her fiancee, Lrel, that msage morphed somewhat: She said Kle had lled them both “abomatns” bee they were gay. In a 2018 cisn, the urt tossed out a Colorado lg agast a baker who refed to serve a gay uple on relig grounds, fdg the state had shown bias agast his relign while makg s cisn. A gay Texas uple is speakg out after a lol bakery rejected their requt for a weddg ke bee s owners oppose same-sex marriage.

We don't provi k for homosexual marriag, '" she told The Longview News-Journal. "Delorme said she would also refe to prepare a ke for her nephew, who she said is openly gay, and has turned down offers to prepare "alhol-related" and "risqué" nfectns the past.

"If I went to a baker, a homosexual baker, and they didn't want to provi a ke for an event that maybe celebrated marriage between a man and a woman, " she told The Longview News-Journal, "[] would be OK for them to say, 'That's not le wh our valu.

‘GAY KE’ ROW: MAN LOS SEVEN-YEAR BATTLE AGAST BELFAST BAKERY

""I don’t re if you’re pk, purple, polka-dotted, gay or straight, " she said. " Bakeri and other weddg-related venu ntue to be an unlikely battleground for lbian, gay, bisexual and transgenr (LGBT) rights, but 's empowerg to see bs step up to the plate when others disappot. | (Photo: Rters/David McNew)Dpe anti-discrimatn laws many stat that require Christian bakery owners to bake k for same-sex weddgs, 13 LGBT and gay-owned bakeri objected to one man's requt when he asked if they'd make a pro-tradnal marriage ke that would read "gay marriage is wrong.

UK SUPREME URT BACKS BAKERY THAT REFED TO MAKE GAY MARRIAGE KE

Shoebat set off on a vio experiment where he lled 13 bakeri, which are all eher known as gay-owned bakeri or bakeri that strongly support gay marriage, and told them that he was hostg a pro-tradnal marriage celebratn and that he need a ke that says "gay marriage is wrong.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* GAY COUPLE AND BAKERY

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class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="284" height="178" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" fetchprry="high" /></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Did you hear about the gay bakery Greenwich Village – </span><em>Sweetie Pi, Cupk and More</em><span> -- that refed to bake a weddg ke for a straight uple? Can you image?</span></p><p>When asked why they refed, the two gay bakers – Adam and Steve – said, “While we have nothg agast straight people – some of our bt iends are heteros – we don’t thk straight people should fall to some ‘protected class.’ In other words, ’s our bakery and we n do whatever we want.”</p><p>Cy officials didn’t see that way. They fed Adam and Steve over $100,000 bee acrdg to lol law, a bs open to the public mt serve the public and n’t refe service based on sexual orientatn.</p><p>So whose si are you on? Do the gay bakers have a right to refe to bake a weddg ke for a heterosexual uple? It is their bs, after all. Or was the ernment right fg them?</p><p>In se you hadn’t heard about the Greenwich Village se, ’s bee I ma up. But I spect you knew that. And I unrstand that the Oregon se, which is the news – where Christian bakers were fed $135,000 for refg to bake a weddg ke for a gay uple – isn’t exactly the same.</p><p>In the Oregon se, the bakers claimed was agast their relig beliefs to bake the ke. To do so would vlate their fundamental valu.</p><p>The state didn’t see that way, lg that, “Unr Oregon law, bs nnot discrimate or refe service based on sexual orientatn, jt as they nnot turn ctomers away bee of race, sex, disabily, age or relign.”</p><p>(Before you ask, Should a Jewish baker be forced to ter a Nazi weddg, let's be clear:  Nazis are not a protected class.  In many stat -- Oregon beg one -- gays are. So no on the Nazi weddg.)</p><p><span>Melissa Kle, the owner along wh her hband of the bakery that was penalized, </span><em>Sweet Cak</em><span>, Portland, said this on her Facebook page: “We are here to obey God not man, and we will not nform to this world. If we were to lose everythg would be totally worth for our Lord who gave his one and only son, J, for ! God will w this fight!”</span></p><p>Fair enough. If they’re willg to lose their bs by not bakg a weddg ke for a gay uple, maybe that’s how God wants , though I have a tough time believg that God gave even a send of his prec time to the qutn of whether Christian bakers should make a weddg ke for a uple of gays.</p><p>Still, I’d prefer that stead of ntug to wage relig war over this, we ll a tce.</p><p><span>What if we had a law said that bakers have </span><em>no</em><span> obligatn to actually liver the ke to the se of the weddg; that a florist do </span><em>not</em><span> have to attend the weddg to make sure the flowers are arranged properly; that a photographer do </span><em>not</em><span> have to take pictur at the actual weddg ceremony? What if the law said, sence, that bs owners, if their relign forbids , don’t have to set foot si a venue where a gay weddg tak place.</span></p><p><span>But, unr this promise, the same law would say that the baker </span><em>do</em><span> have to simply bake the ke for the gay uple, and the florist </span><em>do</em><span> simply have to sell them flowers, and the photographer </span><em>do</em><span> simply have to take pictur </span><em>at his stud</em><span> – bee bs that are open to the general public mt serve the general public or pay a fe.</span></p><p>There was a ment posted on by someone lled “Solandri” that asked for give on both sis. “This [Oregon] se should never have gotten this far. It should have been rolved privately wh the pany bakg the ke but not ratg , and the lbian uple ratg themselv or hirg someone else to rate . Coexistence only works if all parti try to figure out a way to exist wh mimal disptn to each other, stead of immediately tryg to flict the maximum possible harm upon each other jt bee they disagree."</p><p>I unrstand that some people of fah don’t want any part of gay weddgs – even if that part is a small one, such as only bakg the ke (and not beg required to so much as show up the same zip as the weddg). But I worry about the slippery slope.</p><p>If bakers n refe to bake a weddg ke for a gay uple bee dog so would vlate their relig beliefs, why n’t they refe to serve openly gay people – perd?</p><p>Why n’t the florist refe to sell flowers to gay people – who simply want flowers?</p><p>Why n’t the bs owners of fah say that homosexualy, their view, is a s and they n’t do bs wh sful people?</p><p>In the lg agast the Christian bakers, Oregon Labor Commissner Brad Avakian said that, “This se is not about a weddg ke or a marriage. It is about a bs’s refal to serve someone bee of their sexual orientatn. Unr Oregon law, that is illegal.”</p><p>He’s right.</p><p>Still, I don’t want to see those Christian bakers Portland lose their bs over this. But let’s not fet that they did make a cisn to operate a civil society. They did open their shop on Ma Street. It’s one thg to say on Facebook, “We are here to obey God not man, and we will not nform to this world,” but if you really believe that, don’t open a bakery on a cy street. Open your church.</p><p>Perm me a brief tour: In San Francis the liberal tablishment wel all immigrants, legal or otherwise. The mayor and cy uncil have clared San Francis a “Sanctuary Cy” and like the 300 or so other sanctuary ci the Uned Stat, they don’t always -operate wh feral immigratn officers on matters volvg illegal aliens. In the wake of the tragic murr of that young woman San Francis, by an illegal immigrant who had been ported five tim and had many felony nvictns, the cy’s policy has left many cent people fur -- though liberals, general, still like the ia of sanctuary ci.</p><p>But should the cy of San Francis be the judge and jury on what laws will embrace and which on won't.</p><p>And should the Christian bakers Portland, Oregon be the arber of what laws they will follow and which one's they won't.</p><p>The sanctimony of te believers is unrstandable.  But at tim is also exhstg.</p></div></div><div class="visibily-check"></div><div class="post-footer"><div class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flexGrow--mx4xz ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Box-module__display-flex--ZqeZt ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-jtify-space-between--NvIcg ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-align-center--rSd6h ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-gap-16--TpblU 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