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17 Nov 2024

Lawrence A. Kurk, Are Gay and Lbian Cohabg Coupl Really Different om Heterosexual Married Coupl?, Journal of Marriage and Fay, Vol. 66, No. 4 (Nov., 2004), pp. 880-900

Contents:

WHAT IS THE STATE OF GAY MARRIAGE THE US?
WHAT IT’S LIKE TO TRAVEL AMERI AS A GAY COUPLE LIVG AN RV: EPISO 2 OF TRAVEL + LEISURE’S NEW PODST (VIO)

WHAT IS THE STATE OF GAY MARRIAGE THE US?

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It is important to note that the same-sex soc-sexual behavr observed the study is distct om homosexual behavr bee s motivatn and purpose are social, said Jean-Baptiste Le, who studi primate behavr at the Universy of Lethbridge Canada and was not volved the new rearch.

To be classified as te homosexual behavr, the form, motivatn and functn would all have to be sexual nature, he said. It also requir stat and the feral ernment to rpect gay marriag the stat where is the seven years sce the Obergefell cisn, same-sex marriag have bee more mon, but the chang have differed by has the number of same-sex marriag changed over time?

In the years after Massachetts beme the first state to legally regnize same-sex marriage 2004, gay marriage legalizatn efforts picked up other 2011, there were around 168, 000 married same-sex upl the US. McCray, who had intified as a lbian and seemed ol to his overtur, relented married 1994, unr a tree Prospect Park, wh two gay men officiatg, before a receptn wh a “Super Freak” dance break and a heap of nnoli.

WHAT IT’S LIKE TO TRAVEL AMERI AS A GAY COUPLE LIVG AN RV: EPISO 2 OF TRAVEL + LEISURE’S NEW PODST (VIO)

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Alas, when to namg nventns, whether for straight or gay people, there's no one-size-fs-all solutn. Still, I appreciate the appeal for help cidg what's right.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Qutns about same-sex upl buted on the etiquette scene at least three s ago, when Judh Mart (a.k.a. Miss Manners) answered this qutn: “What should I say when troduced to a homosexual uple?” Her don’t-miss-a beat retort: “How do you do? How do you do?”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">One of the reasons I love this answer is that Mart’s advice gets to the heart of the matter: Suatns change but the prcipl of etiquette do not. The l for addrsg same-sex upl are the same as for oppose-sex on, wh a few twists. Here’s my take on some of the optns:</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Different nam: “Mr. Steven Petrow and Mr. Jam Bean” (formal); “Steven Petrow and Jim Bean” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">For the rerd, my hband's last name is Bean, not Smh. Addrsg your rd to this way would be perfect, as is the facto standard for any married uple, gay or straight, wh different last nam. (Acrdg to a <a href=" tle=">2013 gay weddg survey</a> by the Knot and the Advote, more than 6 10 gay upl keep their own surnam.) Both variatns nvey our mment bee that ltle njunctn, "and," signifi that we are a uple.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">By the way, mted, habatg upl — regardls of sexual orientatn — should be addrsed exactly as if they were married the days. This go double for same-sex upl that live stat that still (for now) ban same-sex marriage. (Oh, and you n relax about who go first. When doubt, let the alphabet be your gui.)</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Hyphenated: “Ms. Malyn Petrow-Cohen and Ms. Julie Petrow-Cohen” (formal); “Maddy and Julie Petrow-Cohen” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">My sister and her wife created a hyphenated name so that they and their two dghters would have one fay inty. Ined, the four of them are known as “The Petrow-Cohens.” Had they cid to be their nam to one new one — the leadg ntenr was “Petroen” — my holiday rd to them would read: “Ms. Malyn and Ms. Julie Petroen.” Anecdotally, I know many younger gay and lbian upl that are creatg a new name and inty together.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">A fsier variatn on the hyphenated optn is to reach out to the French and addrs the envelope to “The Mdam Malyn and Julie Petrow-Cohen” or, for two men, “The Msrs Jam Bean and Steven Petrow.” That beg said, I agree wh Miss Manners, who admted, “The are odd plurals.”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Retro-tradnal: “Mr. and Mr. Matthew Harris” (formal); “Matt and Tony Harris” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">There are a number of gay upl where one groom has taken the surname of his new hband, droppg his fay name altogether, which is on the upswg among younger lbian and gay upl seekg to emulate tradnal norms. It's also the trend among heterosexual upl, wh a 2011 study om the Knot reportg that <a href=" tle="">86 percent of women</a> take their hband's name. One California uple I know is addrsed as "Mr. and Mr. Matthew Harris," which they explaed is not a reflectn of unbridled patriarchy or spoal submissn. Tony Harris was simply never very close to his fay or attached to their name, explaed Matt Harris to me. I n see that for the Matthew Harris, nothg says same-sex married like "Mr. and Mr."</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">(Still, unls you know for a fact that a uple prefers this form of addrs — by g on personal statnery or return addrs labels — I would advise you to go wh “Mr. Matthew Harris and Mr. Tony Harris” stead.)</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Of urse, the given-name-gone-missg suatn is certaly not unique to same-sex upl. I wouldn’t dare addrs my sister--law, Nancy Clarke, as “Mrs. Jay Petrow.” As she’s told me for nearly three s now: My name is Nancy Clarke. Believe me, their Christmas rd will be addrsed to “Ms. Nancy Clarke and Mr. Jay Petrow.”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Here’s my fal piece of advice: Unls you know otherwise, assume same-sex upl are keepg their nam and addrs them as such. If you want to be sure, jt ask. Coupl, if you’re changg your name, let iends and fay know. For stance, when wrg a weddg announcement, clu a le that says somethg like: Bri A is takg Bri B’s name, or whatever moniker you’ve cid upon. Now, to the next prsg qutn: prted or digal holiday rds?</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">E-mail qutns to Civili at <a class="show" href=""></a> (unfortunately not all qutns n be answered). You n reach him on Facebook at <a class="show" href="></a> and on Twter <a href=">@stevenpetrow</a>. 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