Homosexualy and Islam: How do you say gay Arabic?

Contents:

• LEBANE ARABIC: GAY/HOMOSEXUAL
• HOW DO YOU SAY GAY ARABIC?
• GAY ARABIC
• HOW TO SAY GAY ARABIC
• DEFINITIONS FOR GAY WOMANGAY WOM·AN
• TRANSLATN OF GAY – ENGLISH–ARABIC DICTNARY
• ARABIC WORDS FOR 'GAY' NEED TO BE BETTER THAN 'PERVERT' OR 'DEVIANT'
• GAY MEANG IN ARABIC
• GAY MEANG ARABIC
• GAY WOMAN

LEBANE ARABIC: GAY/HOMOSEXUAL

And whats the word for homosexual? I believe 's "شاذ" for both gay and homosexual most dialects cludg Lebane and Levante. Also, "queer" isn't limed to "gay" or "homosexual.

I thk I didn't see "gay" equivalent Arabic, but there's one for "homosexual" "شاذ" or "مثلي الجنس", but "gay" I thk 's a word which is born wtern Christian culture, I never see somethg like Arabic, but to be more accurate we need one knows Lebane to tell the so accurate word that dialect. The notative and nnotative equivalent of "gay" both MSA and Lebane Arabic is مثلي.

The word "gay" do not have s origs Christiany, as far as I know.

HOW DO YOU SAY GAY ARABIC?

I don't know my iend but I don't believe that "gay" = "homosexual" 100%, I thk there's a ference, maybe we n ask English fom, maybe one of 'em is jt a dialect and the other is of standard English, also there's "gay" as an adjective and as a noun, maybe there's a relatn, I feel that there's a ference. I never said "gay" and "homosexual" were equivalent every way; they have the same notatn but differ nnotatn and age.

GAY ARABIC

I don't want to make a lguistic risk and say that "gay" is like an exprsn the Arabic lerature "الجواري الغلاميّة أو الغلاميّات", for that I felt that there's a ference between "gay" and "homosexual", acrdg to that Arabic exprsn you n ll a woman as "gay" but if you said that the woman is a homosexual, means a ferent meang, means lbianism, but "gay woman" acrdg to the Arabic exprsn is another meang. شاذ, on the other hand (and as Elroy poted out) is more like perverse, perverted, viant, abnormal is an unsirable way, and so on, and I've never heard people e to refer to themselv (they jt ed the English "gay"). This meang is que evint om the fact that شاذ is ed not only for homosexualy but also other rejected sexual clatns (for example, the Arabic Wikipedia page for paraphilias is tled شذوذ جنسي).

That said, 's hard to ppot jt how rogatory the term شاذ is bee 's hard to separate s meang om the near universal rejectn of homosexualy wound to the fabric of society.

HOW TO SAY GAY ARABIC

I've heard people e the term otherwise tellectual nversatns and didn't get the imprsn that they were tendg as a slur or an ditn of their own view on homosexualy - they were jt g the word they'd heard thoands of tim before, the accepted label for this particular group. Ahmadcrow, I didn't unrstand what you wrote your last post regardg the difference between llg a woman gay and llg her homosexual. Ahmadcrow, I didn't unrstand what you wrote your last post regard the difference between llg a woman gay and llg her homosexual.

I was makg a mentn that maybe there's a ference acrdg to an Arabic exprsn the Arabic lerature but there's no proof that the Arabic exprsn is really the equivalent for "gay" and if there's a proof we'll see that "gay" n be for male or female wh a ferent meang than "homosexual". "Fag" is word wily regnized as a slur and profany that will offend all kds of people, homosexual or otherwise, when ed public. To a gay person, شاذ may be as offensive as "fag" (or even more so, given the notative meang), but most other people don't see as profany at all.

It's jt that unrstandg the nuanc of this term is necsary for unrstandg why, for example, was possible for Ma to propose as an equivalent of "gay" whout even mentng that uld be offensive even though a term's offensivens is evintly pretty important when to suggtg translatns to foreigner.

DEFINITIONS FOR GAY WOMANGAY WOM·AN

While شاذ is, or has tradnally been, ed as a "flt" term of sorts to mean "gay" or "homosexual, " I don't thk we n good nscience ll ntral any ntext, even when ed by people who are not beg patently offensive. And that negative unrcurrent is reflective of the homophobia that is so eply entrenched the Arab world.

In other words, شاذ arose as a flt term Arabic bee of negative attus towards homosexualy, and this is somethg that we nnot uple om the term, no matter how often 's ed and by whom.

Part of what is preventg مثلي om beg lguistilly unmarked is that homophobia unfortunately ntu to be wispread and eply entrenched Arab society. I thk the clost equivalent to شاذ might actually be "homosexual, " which, although notatively ntral, has unpleasant nnotatns bee sounds clil and th otherg. It is equently ed by people who have religly based homophobia, who often say thgs like "Homosexualy is a s.

TRANSLATN OF GAY – ENGLISH–ARABIC DICTNARY

" (The plural "gays" is another form that is otherg and th not palatable to LGBT+ people even though seems nocent on the surface. ) But شاذ and "homosexual" are not perfect equivalents, bee شاذ is notatively offensive (and th nnotatively negative), whereas "homosexual" is notatively ntral but nnotatively not-so-great, although not as offensive as شاذ.

"gay" and مثلي le up pretty well both notatively and nnotatively, but the difference is that "gay" is firmly tablished and totally unmarked, whereas مثلي has a long way to go before the same n be said of . To sum up, "fag/faggot" and مَنْيَك le up pretty perfectly; "gay" and مثلي le up very well although not perfectly due to the markedns differenc scribed above; "sodome" and لوطي le up to some extent but differ signifintly age; and "homosexual" and شاذ don't really "le up" but have some overlap and are any se probably closer to each other than eher is to any other word the other language. "zevzek" has no relevance wh "gay" Turkish.

A brief lguistic history of Middle Eastern homosexualy.

ARABIC WORDS FOR 'GAY' NEED TO BE BETTER THAN 'PERVERT' OR 'DEVIANT'

Gay-pri protters Lebanon 2010. The Arabic subtl for the film The Bt Exotic Marigold Hotel translate the word gay to the Arabic equivalent of pervert, acrdg to an article by Steve Clemons the Atlantic. A pair of Arabic speakers told Clemons that Arabic don’t have a rpectful word for gay, except for the recently ed word mhli.

When did the Arabic-speakg world regnize the existence of homosexualy? In Michel Fouult’s 1976 book The History of Sexualy, the French philosopher claimed that although homosexual acts are prehistoric, Europeans and Amerins didn’t regnize homosexualy as a tra until the 19th century.

Several lguists backed Fouult’s claim, argug that many Wtern languag had words for homosexual acts, but not for homosexualy, until very recently. Classil Arabic texts have several words for homosexuals and homosexualy datg back to the nth century. Luti is ually translated as sodome and is wily nsired rogatory, but some gay Arabic wrers have recently -opted the term the way gay anglophon reclaimed the word queer the 1980s.

GAY MEANG IN ARABIC

(Like the translators of The Bt Exotic Marigold Hotel, Google ed an accintal stir 2006 when a er noticed that s software translated gay to luti. It typilly refers to receptive gay male sex, but acrdg to gay-studi scholar Stephen O. The eighth- and nth-century wrers Abu Nuwas and Al-Jahiz ed the word latah for homosexuals, and the latter wrer even referred to ghulat al-latah, or ultra-homosexuals.

GAY MEANG ARABIC

Abu Nuwas also provid one of the more betiful medieval Arabic referenc to homosexualy, askg “Would I choose seas over land?

GAY WOMAN

Many of the words referrg to homosexualy the Islamic world eventually fad to dise, replaced by vague and rogatory terms.

In Arabic, sadj, meang peculiar, is now a mon label for a homosexual person. Shudhudh jsi, which means sexual perversn, beme shorthand for homosexualy.