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• MOL SUT: I WAS FORCED OUT AFTER WNSG BAD BEHAVRGETTING UGLYTHE AGENCY CED “A PATTERN OF POOR JUDGEMENTS” FIRG HIM, BUT HE CLAIMS HE WAS THE SUBJECT OF RETALIATN.EY SHUGERMANSENR REPORTERLACHLAN CARTWRIGHTEDOR AT LARGEUPDATED DEC. 11, 2021 6:53PM EST / PUBLISHED DEC. 10, 2021 10:53PM EST PHOTO ILLTRATN BY THOMAS LEVSON/THE DAILY BEAST/GETTYA FORMER HEAD OF THE MEN’S DIVISN AT AN TEEMED MOLG AGENCY CLAIMS HE WAS PHED OUT OF THE PANY TO VER UP THE PRINT’S ALLEGED MISNDUCT.IN A LAWSU FILED NEW YORK STATE SUPREME URT, JOHN HENDRICH—A FORMER EXECUTIVE VICE PRINT AT THE SOCIETY MOL MANAGEMENT—ALLEG HE WNSED PRINT CHRIS GAY “APPROPRIATE[LY] TOUCHG” A JUNR EMPLOYEE, OLGA TAVAR. WHEN TAVAR LATER ISSUED A LEGAL THREAT AGAST THE SOCIETY, HENDRICH CLAIMS, THE PANY FIRED HIM FOR FAILG TO REPORT THE CINT. ACRDG TO THE SU, GAY FACED NO REPERCSNS. THE SOCIETY, THROUGH UNSEL, TELLS THE DAILY BEAST THAT AN PENNT VTIGATN OF TAVAR’ CLAIMS FOUND NO EVINCE OF HARASSMENT OR WRONGDOG BY GAY.HENDRICH AND TAVAR BOTH WORKED FOR THE MEN’S DIVISN AT THE SOCIETY, A SUBSET OF THE LARGER ELE WORLD GROUP—A MOLG AND TALENT AGENCY WH 11 OFFIC AROUND THE WORLD AND MORE THAN 5,000 MOLS AND OTHER PERSONALI. (BIGGER NAM REPPED BY EWG CLU HELENA CHRISTENSEN AND CHRISTA AGUILERA.) ACRDG TO THE SU, HENDRICH JOED THE SOCIETY 2019 TO BUILD OUT THE MEN’S DIVISN, AND TAVAR JOED SHORTLY AFTER TO HELP SUT TALENT. GAY, AS PRINT OF THE SOCIETY AND -CEO OF ELE, WORKED CLOSELY WH BOTH OF THEM, ACRDG TO THE SU.HENDRICH CLAIMS HE WNSED TWO CINTS VOLVG TAVAR AND GAY, THE FIRST OF WHICH OCCURRED SHORTLY AFTER HE AND TAVAR WERE HIRED. ACRDG TO THE SU, GAY OVERHEARD A NVERSATN BETWEEN TAVAR AND ANOTHER EMPLOYEE ABOUT A VISA ISSUE AND “ASSUMED WAS SOMETHG OTHER THAN WHAT WAS.” THE SU CLAIMS GAY THEN RAISED HIS VOICE AT TAVAR AND “BERATED HER AN UNWARRANTED AND AGGRSIVE MANNER,” TO THE POT THAT SHE WAS VISIBLY SHAKEN AND BEGAN TO CRY. THE SEND CINT OCCURRED AUGT 2019. ACRDG TO THE SU. HENDRICH, TAVAR, AND ANOTHER MEN’S DIVISN EMPLOYEE WERE HAVG A MEETG THE THE NEW YORK OFFICE WHEN GAY WALKED AND STARTED ASKG HENDRICH ABOUT SUTG OPTNS LOS ANGEL. THEN HE DIRECTED HIS QUTNG TOWARD TAVAR. ACRDG TO THE SU, HE PLACED HIS HANDS ON THE BACK OF TAVAR’S CHAIR AND ROCKED BACK AND FORTH, THEN PATTED HER ON THE SHOULRS THREE TIM—HARD ENOUGH THAT TAVAR LOOKED SURPRISED AND SAID “OUCH.”AS THE SOCIETY POTS OUT S OWN LEGAL FILGS, HENDRICH’S VERSN OF EVENTS AND THE LAWSU’S DIVERGE SLIGHTLY HERE. ACRDG TO THE SU, TAVAR BEME VISIBLY UPSET AS A RULT OF THE ENUNTER, AND HENDRICH ENURAGED HER TO REPORT . IN AN AFFIDAV FILED THAT SAME MONTH, HOWEVER, HENDRICH STAT THAT TAVAR “DID NOT CRY, SEEK MEDIL ATTENTN, OR OTHERWISE LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS JURED,” AND ADDS THAT HE DID NOT THK THE TERACTN WAS “REMARKABLE ANY WAY.” AS A RULT, HE SAYS, DID NOT DISCS WH EHER TAVAR OR GAY.REGARDLS OF WHAT HAPPENED THE DIRECT AFTERMATH OF THE CINT, BOTH THE LAWSU AND HENDRICH’S AFFIDAV CLAIM HENDRICH DID NOT ADDRS THE ISSUE AGA UNTIL THAT FALL, WHEN TAVAR SENT HIM AN EMAIL ABOUT . ACRDG TO THE AFFIDAV, TAVAR EMAILED HENDRICH ABOUT HER RELLECTN OF THE CINT ON SEPT. 3, AND HE RPOND: “Y I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL HAPPENED AND I WAS THERE TO WNS .”TAVAR THEN ISSUED A LEGAL THREAT TO THE SOCIETY, CG THIS AND “OTHER ALLEGATNS,” ACRDG TO HENDRICH’S SU. (TAVAR CLED TO MENT TO THE DAILY BEAST.) AS PART OF S VTIGATN TO TAVAR’ PLATS, THE PANY QUTNED HENDRICH. ACRDG TO FILGS BY BOTH HENDRICH AND THE SOCIETY, THE VICE PRINT NFIRMED TO VTIGATORS THAT HE HAD WNSED THE CINT AND RECEIVED TAVAR’ EMAIL ABOUT , BUT HADN’T REPORTED TO THE PANY. HE WAS FIRED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.ACRDG TO THE SOCIETY, HENDRICH WAS FIRED FOR NEGLECTG TO RM THE PANY ABOUT TAVAR’ POTENTIAL CLAIMS AGAST THEM. IN A FEB. 10, 2021, LETTER, CLUD AS AN EXHIB THE FILLGS, THE PANY’S GENERAL UNSEL CLAIMS HENDRICH’S FAILURE TO RM THEM OF TAVAR’ “JUR NDUCT” WAS “A BREACH OF YOUR OBLIGATNS AND DUTI UNR THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, AN ACT OF GROSS RELSNS OR MISNDUCT THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR DUTI, AND A BREACH OF YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTI OWED TO THE SOCIETY.”“THIS UPLED WH A PATTERN OF POOR JUDGEMENTS, HAS EXPOSED THE PANY TO A SERI OF PLATS,” THE LETTER STAT.“AFTER AN EXTERNAL VTIGATN, JOHN ‘TAYLOR’ HENDRICH WAS DISMISSED FOR WILLFULLY SUPPRSG A PLAT AND VLATG HIS OBLIGATN TO REPORT A HARASSMENT CLAIM BY ONE OF HIS DIRECT REPORTS, BREACHG PANY PROTOL AND LAYG AN IMMEDIATE VTIGATN,” A SPOKPERSON FOR THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT EMAILED THE DAILY BEAST AFTER THIS STORY HAD BEEN PUBLISHED.“AFTER THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT BEME AWARE OF THE ALLEGED CINT, A THOROUGH VTIGATN WAS NDUCTED BY OUTSI UNSEL, WHICH FOUND NO EVINCE OF HARASSMENT BY CHRISTOPHER GAY. THE VTIGATN CLUS A SWORN AFFIDAV OM MR. HENDRICH, WHICH DIRECTLY NTRADICTS THE CLAIMS CED HIS LAWSU. THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT STANDS BY THE CISN TO FIRE MR. HENDRICH,” THE SPOKPERSON SAID.HENDRICH’S LAWSU, HOWEVER, CLAIMS HE IS BEG RETALIATED AGAST FOR NFIRMG THAT HE HAD WNSED GAY’S BEHAVR; THAT HE IS BEG “SPEGOATED” BY THE PANY AS PART OF A “MISGUID ATTEMPT TO SHIELD GAY OM LIABILY.” IT ALSO CLAIMS THAT GAY FIRED HENDRICH OVER A ZOOM LL SHORTLY AFTER THE VTIGATN TO TAVAR’ CLAIMS END, AND THAT THE PRINT “BELTLED” HIM, TELLG HIM MULTIPLE TIM THAT HE WAS “NOT A LEAR.”“THE SOCIETY’S POSN THAT PLATIFF WAS TERMATED FOR FAILG TO REPORT MS. TAVAR’ PLAT IS IMPLSIBLE, AND IS AN OBV PRETEXT FOR HIS TERMATN BASED UPON THE FACT THAT HE WNSED AN CINT OF ALLEGED HARASSMENT BY MR. GAY TOWARD MS. TAVAR, HE NFERRED WH MS. TAVAR ABOUT , AND THEN HE OFFERED RMATN REGARDG SAID CINT DURG THE VTIGATN,” THE SU STAT. ELE WORLD GROUP HAS E UNR FIRE LATELY A WOMEN’S RIGHTS GROUP URGG TO NONT ELE MOL MANAGEMENT’S SORDID HISTORY OF ALLEGED SEX TRAFFICKG AND ABE. THE FOUNR OF ELE MOLS, JOHN CASABLANS, HAS BEEN ACCED OF SEXUALLY EXPLOG GIRLS AS YOUNG AS 14 YEARS OLD, AND ADMTED TO MARRYG A 16-YEAR-OLD WHEN HE WAS 41. FORMER ELE EXECUTIVE GERALD MARIE IS CURRENTLY UNR VTIGATN BY FRENCH THORI FOR ALLEGATNS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND RAPE. (MARIE HAS NIED ANY WRONGDOG.)ELE WORLD GROUP CLAIMS THE ALLEGED ABE OCCURRED UNR DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT, AND THAT THE PANY NOW HAS A “ZERO TOLERANCE” POLICY FOR SEXUAL MISNDUCT AND “LEAVE[S] NO ROOM FOR ANY FORM OF ABE, HARASSMENT, DISCRIMATN AND/OR GENR BIAS.” BUT EARLIER THIS YEAR, SUPERMOL CARRE OTIS AND THE NON-PROF MOL ALLIANCE PENNED AN OPEN LETTER TO ELE WORLD GROUP -CEO JULIA HAART, ACCG HER OF PRENTG HERSELF AS AN ADVOTE FOR WOMEN WHILE PROFG OFF OF ELE’S CHECKERED PAST. AN ELE SPOKPERSON RPOND BY SAYG THAT THE PANY WAS “SHOCKED AND SADNED TO SEE MOL ALLIANCE ATTACK THE ONLY FEMALE LEAR THIS DTRY.” EY SHUGERMAN
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MOL SUT: I WAS FORCED OUT AFTER WNSG BAD BEHAVRGETTING UGLYTHE AGENCY CED “A PATTERN OF POOR JUDGEMENTS” FIRG HIM, BUT HE CLAIMS HE WAS THE SUBJECT OF RETALIATN.EY SHUGERMANSENR REPORTERLACHLAN CARTWRIGHTEDOR AT LARGEUPDATED DEC. 11, 2021 6:53PM EST / PUBLISHED DEC. 10, 2021 10:53PM EST PHOTO ILLTRATN BY THOMAS LEVSON/THE DAILY BEAST/GETTYA FORMER HEAD OF THE MEN’S DIVISN AT AN TEEMED MOLG AGENCY CLAIMS HE WAS PHED OUT OF THE PANY TO VER UP THE PRINT’S ALLEGED MISNDUCT.IN A LAWSU FILED NEW YORK STATE SUPREME URT, JOHN HENDRICH—A FORMER EXECUTIVE VICE PRINT AT THE SOCIETY MOL MANAGEMENT—ALLEG HE WNSED PRINT CHRIS GAY “APPROPRIATE[LY] TOUCHG” A JUNR EMPLOYEE, OLGA TAVAR. WHEN TAVAR LATER ISSUED A LEGAL THREAT AGAST THE SOCIETY, HENDRICH CLAIMS, THE PANY FIRED HIM FOR FAILG TO REPORT THE CINT. ACRDG TO THE SU, GAY FACED NO REPERCSNS. THE SOCIETY, THROUGH UNSEL, TELLS THE DAILY BEAST THAT AN PENNT VTIGATN OF TAVAR’ CLAIMS FOUND NO EVINCE OF HARASSMENT OR WRONGDOG BY GAY.HENDRICH AND TAVAR BOTH WORKED FOR THE MEN’S DIVISN AT THE SOCIETY, A SUBSET OF THE LARGER ELE WORLD GROUP—A MOLG AND TALENT AGENCY WH 11 OFFIC AROUND THE WORLD AND MORE THAN 5,000 MOLS AND OTHER PERSONALI. (BIGGER NAM REPPED BY EWG CLU HELENA CHRISTENSEN AND CHRISTA AGUILERA.) ACRDG TO THE SU, HENDRICH JOED THE SOCIETY 2019 TO BUILD OUT THE MEN’S DIVISN, AND TAVAR JOED SHORTLY AFTER TO HELP SUT TALENT. GAY, AS PRINT OF THE SOCIETY AND -CEO OF ELE, WORKED CLOSELY WH BOTH OF THEM, ACRDG TO THE SU.HENDRICH CLAIMS HE WNSED TWO CINTS VOLVG TAVAR AND GAY, THE FIRST OF WHICH OCCURRED SHORTLY AFTER HE AND TAVAR WERE HIRED. ACRDG TO THE SU, GAY OVERHEARD A NVERSATN BETWEEN TAVAR AND ANOTHER EMPLOYEE ABOUT A VISA ISSUE AND “ASSUMED WAS SOMETHG OTHER THAN WHAT WAS.” THE SU CLAIMS GAY THEN RAISED HIS VOICE AT TAVAR AND “BERATED HER AN UNWARRANTED AND AGGRSIVE MANNER,” TO THE POT THAT SHE WAS VISIBLY SHAKEN AND BEGAN TO CRY. THE SEND CINT OCCURRED AUGT 2019. ACRDG TO THE SU. HENDRICH, TAVAR, AND ANOTHER MEN’S DIVISN EMPLOYEE WERE HAVG A MEETG THE THE NEW YORK OFFICE WHEN GAY WALKED AND STARTED ASKG HENDRICH ABOUT SUTG OPTNS LOS ANGEL. THEN HE DIRECTED HIS QUTNG TOWARD TAVAR. ACRDG TO THE SU, HE PLACED HIS HANDS ON THE BACK OF TAVAR’S CHAIR AND ROCKED BACK AND FORTH, THEN PATTED HER ON THE SHOULRS THREE TIM—HARD ENOUGH THAT TAVAR LOOKED SURPRISED AND SAID “OUCH.”AS THE SOCIETY POTS OUT S OWN LEGAL FILGS, HENDRICH’S VERSN OF EVENTS AND THE LAWSU’S DIVERGE SLIGHTLY HERE. ACRDG TO THE SU, TAVAR BEME VISIBLY UPSET AS A RULT OF THE ENUNTER, AND HENDRICH ENURAGED HER TO REPORT . IN AN AFFIDAV FILED THAT SAME MONTH, HOWEVER, HENDRICH STAT THAT TAVAR “DID NOT CRY, SEEK MEDIL ATTENTN, OR OTHERWISE LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS JURED,” AND ADDS THAT HE DID NOT THK THE TERACTN WAS “REMARKABLE ANY WAY.” AS A RULT, HE SAYS, DID NOT DISCS WH EHER TAVAR OR GAY.REGARDLS OF WHAT HAPPENED THE DIRECT AFTERMATH OF THE CINT, BOTH THE LAWSU AND HENDRICH’S AFFIDAV CLAIM HENDRICH DID NOT ADDRS THE ISSUE AGA UNTIL THAT FALL, WHEN TAVAR SENT HIM AN EMAIL ABOUT . ACRDG TO THE AFFIDAV, TAVAR EMAILED HENDRICH ABOUT HER RELLECTN OF THE CINT ON SEPT. 3, AND HE RPOND: “Y I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ALL HAPPENED AND I WAS THERE TO WNS .”TAVAR THEN ISSUED A LEGAL THREAT TO THE SOCIETY, CG THIS AND “OTHER ALLEGATNS,” ACRDG TO HENDRICH’S SU. (TAVAR CLED TO MENT TO THE DAILY BEAST.) AS PART OF S VTIGATN TO TAVAR’ PLATS, THE PANY QUTNED HENDRICH. ACRDG TO FILGS BY BOTH HENDRICH AND THE SOCIETY, THE VICE PRINT NFIRMED TO VTIGATORS THAT HE HAD WNSED THE CINT AND RECEIVED TAVAR’ EMAIL ABOUT , BUT HADN’T REPORTED TO THE PANY. HE WAS FIRED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.ACRDG TO THE SOCIETY, HENDRICH WAS FIRED FOR NEGLECTG TO RM THE PANY ABOUT TAVAR’ POTENTIAL CLAIMS AGAST THEM. IN A FEB. 10, 2021, LETTER, CLUD AS AN EXHIB THE FILLGS, THE PANY’S GENERAL UNSEL CLAIMS HENDRICH’S FAILURE TO RM THEM OF TAVAR’ “JUR NDUCT” WAS “A BREACH OF YOUR OBLIGATNS AND DUTI UNR THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, AN ACT OF GROSS RELSNS OR MISNDUCT THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR DUTI, AND A BREACH OF YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTI OWED TO THE SOCIETY.”“THIS UPLED WH A PATTERN OF POOR JUDGEMENTS, HAS EXPOSED THE PANY TO A SERI OF PLATS,” THE LETTER STAT.“AFTER AN EXTERNAL VTIGATN, JOHN ‘TAYLOR’ HENDRICH WAS DISMISSED FOR WILLFULLY SUPPRSG A PLAT AND VLATG HIS OBLIGATN TO REPORT A HARASSMENT CLAIM BY ONE OF HIS DIRECT REPORTS, BREACHG PANY PROTOL AND LAYG AN IMMEDIATE VTIGATN,” A SPOKPERSON FOR THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT EMAILED THE DAILY BEAST AFTER THIS STORY HAD BEEN PUBLISHED.“AFTER THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT BEME AWARE OF THE ALLEGED CINT, A THOROUGH VTIGATN WAS NDUCTED BY OUTSI UNSEL, WHICH FOUND NO EVINCE OF HARASSMENT BY CHRISTOPHER GAY. THE VTIGATN CLUS A SWORN AFFIDAV OM MR. HENDRICH, WHICH DIRECTLY NTRADICTS THE CLAIMS CED HIS LAWSU. THE SOCIETY MANAGEMENT STANDS BY THE CISN TO FIRE MR. HENDRICH,” THE SPOKPERSON SAID.HENDRICH’S LAWSU, HOWEVER, CLAIMS HE IS BEG RETALIATED AGAST FOR NFIRMG THAT HE HAD WNSED GAY’S BEHAVR; THAT HE IS BEG “SPEGOATED” BY THE PANY AS PART OF A “MISGUID ATTEMPT TO SHIELD GAY OM LIABILY.” IT ALSO CLAIMS THAT GAY FIRED HENDRICH OVER A ZOOM LL SHORTLY AFTER THE VTIGATN TO TAVAR’ CLAIMS END, AND THAT THE PRINT “BELTLED” HIM, TELLG HIM MULTIPLE TIM THAT HE WAS “NOT A LEAR.”“THE SOCIETY’S POSN THAT PLATIFF WAS TERMATED FOR FAILG TO REPORT MS. TAVAR’ PLAT IS IMPLSIBLE, AND IS AN OBV PRETEXT FOR HIS TERMATN BASED UPON THE FACT THAT HE WNSED AN CINT OF ALLEGED HARASSMENT BY MR. GAY TOWARD MS. TAVAR, HE NFERRED WH MS. TAVAR ABOUT , AND THEN HE OFFERED RMATN REGARDG SAID CINT DURG THE VTIGATN,” THE SU STAT. ELE WORLD GROUP HAS E UNR FIRE LATELY A WOMEN’S RIGHTS GROUP URGG TO NONT ELE MOL MANAGEMENT’S SORDID HISTORY OF ALLEGED SEX TRAFFICKG AND ABE. THE FOUNR OF ELE MOLS, JOHN CASABLANS, HAS BEEN ACCED OF SEXUALLY EXPLOG GIRLS AS YOUNG AS 14 YEARS OLD, AND ADMTED TO MARRYG A 16-YEAR-OLD WHEN HE WAS 41. FORMER ELE EXECUTIVE GERALD MARIE IS CURRENTLY UNR VTIGATN BY FRENCH THORI FOR ALLEGATNS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND RAPE. (MARIE HAS NIED ANY WRONGDOG.)ELE WORLD GROUP CLAIMS THE ALLEGED ABE OCCURRED UNR DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT, AND THAT THE PANY NOW HAS A “ZERO TOLERANCE” POLICY FOR SEXUAL MISNDUCT AND “LEAVE[S] NO ROOM FOR ANY FORM OF ABE, HARASSMENT, DISCRIMATN AND/OR GENR BIAS.” BUT EARLIER THIS YEAR, SUPERMOL CARRE OTIS AND THE NON-PROF MOL ALLIANCE PENNED AN OPEN LETTER TO ELE WORLD GROUP -CEO JULIA HAART, ACCG HER OF PRENTG HERSELF AS AN ADVOTE FOR WOMEN WHILE PROFG OFF OF ELE’S CHECKERED PAST. AN ELE SPOKPERSON RPOND BY SAYG THAT THE PANY WAS “SHOCKED AND SADNED TO SEE MOL ALLIANCE ATTACK THE ONLY FEMALE LEAR THIS DTRY.” EY SHUGERMAN

Want to ntact Chris Gay (II) directly? A former head of the men’s divisn at an teemed molg agency claims he was phed out of the pany to ver up the print’s alleged a lawsu filed New York state supreme urt, John Hendrich—a former executive vice print at The Society Mol Management—alleg he wnsed Print Chris Gay “appropriate[ly] touchg” a junr employee, Olga Tavar. Acrdg to the su, Gay faced no repercsns.

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The Society, through unsel, tells The Daily Beast that an pennt vtigatn of Tavar’ claims found no evince of harassment or wrongdog by Gay.

Gay, as print of The Society and -CEO of Ele, worked closely wh both of them, acrdg to the su. Hendrich claims he wnsed two cints volvg Tavar and Gay, the first of which occurred shortly after he and Tavar were hired. Acrdg to the su, Gay overheard a nversatn between Tavar and another employee about a visa issue and “assumed was somethg other than what was.

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” The su claims Gay then raised his voice at Tavar and “berated her an unwarranted and aggrsive manner, ” to the pot that she was visibly shaken and began to send cint occurred Augt 2019. Hendrich, Tavar, and another men’s divisn employee were havg a meetg the the New York office when Gay walked and started askg Hendrich about sutg optns Los Angel. ” As a rult, he says, did not discs wh eher Tavar or Gay.

“After The Society Management beme aware of the alleged cint, a thorough vtigatn was nducted by outsi unsel, which found no evince of harassment by Christopher Gay.

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Hendrich’s lawsu, however, claims he is beg retaliated agast for nfirmg that he had wnsed Gay’s behavr; that he is beg “spegoated” by the pany as part of a “misguid attempt to shield Gay om liabily. ” It also claims that Gay fired Hendrich over a Zoom ll shortly after the vtigatn to Tavar’ claims end, and that the print “beltled” him, tellg him multiple tim that he was “not a lear.