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class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz ccdiSo"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w, 1920w, 2240w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="John Malkovich" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></div></div></span></div></figure></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box ContentHearPersistentAsi-fsnAmQ dFzKzm"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--has-background ContentHearSocialIns-jzJiyg ctaZl social-ins--share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></hear></div><div data-attribute-verso-pattern="article-body" class="ArticlePageContentBackGround-cNiFNN kJkLmH article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP eRxRjL"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eSsnKa"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>“Last week, I walked 62.2 ,” <a href=">John Malkovich</a> tells me his languid, liberate, distctly Malkovichian way of speakg. Words are enunciated to the nth gree and ps are plenty, so even simple facts about his step unt sound beftg of a soliloquy. “This week, ls, although still a good number. Probably about 25 .”</p><p>Malkovich is ridg out this perd of ronavis isolatn Cambridge, Massachetts, where he and his fay reloted 2003 after biddg <em> revr</em> to their longtime home the South of France due to a tax dispute. The actor, known for lendg his transcennt creeps to dozens of movi over the urse of his s-long reer and spirg the thoroughly meta film <em>Beg John Malkovich</em>, has turned his attentn to the small screen recent years. He appeared as a chillg Rsian gangster <em>Billns</em>, for stance, and a <a href=">dandy-turned-pontiff <em>The New Pope</em></a>. In <a href="><em>Space Force</em></a>, the new edy seri om <em>Office</em> creator Greg Daniels and Steve Carrell, he plays a bray scientist who is equently trated by the eptu of everyone surroundg him.</p><p>A few days before <em>Space Force</em>’s Netflix premiere, <a href=">Malkovich</a> talked to GQ about what he nsirs his ft performanc, his work as a fashn signer, and why he never thks about himself.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="dz6w"></div></div><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Lightg Coat Clothg Overat Apparel and Su" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnText-bHjzlu iUEiRd fgkCnW iXWezO ptn__text">John Malkovich <em>Space Force</em>, 2020.</span><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Aaron Epste for Netflix</span></div></figure><p><strong><em>GQ:</em> What appealed to you about the character of Dr. Adrian Mallory?</strong></p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p><em>John Malkovich:</em> I don't normally look at thgs that way. “What's my character? What's my le?” I liked the whole thg and I liked all the characters and bee looked like there were gog to be eight, 10, 12 very tertg characters. That was good enough for me. I liked that character, but I liked them all.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p><strong>I unrstand that the character is supposed to be loosely based on Dr. Strangelove. Are there any other scientists, fictnal or real life, that you looked to for spiratn?</strong></p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="40x2b"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Not really. The only astrophysicist I ever really followed much was Ernto Sabato but I followed him bee he was a great novelist, not for his work astrophysics. It's a ltle b above my pay gra.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>You've done three televisn shows a row: <em>Billns</em> and <em>The New Pope</em> and now <em>Space Force</em>. What is about televisn work that particularly terts you at this pot?</strong></p><p>Well, I've done four seri. I did one for NBC lled <em>Crossbon</em> a few years ago, which shouldn’t have been on NBC, but all of them the ma impet were the creators and the wrers. In the se of <em>Crossbon</em>, that was Neil Cross, who also did the seri wh Idris Elba lled <em>Luther</em>. I wasn't particularly terted pirat and what have you, but I thk Neil is an excellent wrer.</p><p>Same wh <em>Billns</em>. <a href=">Brian Koppelman and David Levien</a> are iends and I was their first screenplay, which was lled <em>Rounrs</em>, and have been touch wh them and been iends ever sce. I was pretty by durg that time but I really like Brian and David and they wanted me to e back and play another Rsian so I said, "Yeah. Sure. Fe." I like <a href=">Damian [Lewis]</a> and <a href=">Pl Giamatti</a> and the st and everythg.</p><p>Then for <em>The New Pope</em>, I thk <a href=">[Paolo] Sorrento</a> is kd of the bt person I n thk of who is workg today.</p><p><strong>In the past, you’ve said that you haven’t voted sce Gee McGovern 1972. I'm cur—bee this show is based on an agency veloped by the current admistratn and tak place a thly-veiled edic versn of our polil universe—whether you've sce changed your md?</strong></p><p>Not really. No. I may. I don't kd of buy the whole thg, you see. I'm not a believer. I fely don't buy much of what I read and for good reason, appears. I'll leave to the other geni to lead me.</p><p><strong>Any views on the actual Space Force agency and s creatn?</strong></p><p>I don't have any. Meang, I don't know what the bill is, I haven't followed . I saw they got an appropriatn. I don't even know what their task is, what their missn is. I mean, the seri supposedly boots on the moon by 2024 but I don't know if the pot is to explore space or arize space or explo merals that are found on space. I really have no ia. Do you?</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>No. I thk 's perhaps tentnally vague. Now, you’ve had a long and storied and varied reer and I was wonrg if, say, the last or so are there any sorts of characters or projects that you feel more drawn to than you have the past?</strong></p><p>You know, not really. I mean, I was really stck watchg the improv wh Ben Schwartz and Thomas Middledch [<em>Ed. note: the</em> Middledch & Schwartz <em>Netflix specia</em>l]. Jt the fun of playg, of makg believe, of makg thgs up. I'm 66 years old and maybe 's sad or even piful or simply odd but I still like imagg thgs. I still like makg thgs up, I still like pretendg.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="0tk0dd"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>I don't ever much md the genre. I don't md a small part or big part or a ty part. I like theater still. Opera. I like to do films. I like to do TV. I'm lucky, I still like my job and have been afford sort of credible opportuni aga and aga to do . I don't so much have kd of dream projects. I never did as an actor.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eltaVW"><p>"I wore a su to garn. I wore a su to take a walk. For at least 15 years, I was never out of a su."</p></div></asi><p><strong>Sce 2002, you've worked as a fashn signer here and there. [<em>Ed. note:</em> Malkovich started his own pany, Mrs. Mudd, which released the llectns “Uncle Kimono” and “Technobohemian.”] How and why did you first get volved the bs?</strong></p><p>When I me back to New York after September 11th to stay for a while, I enuntered a young Italian man lled Franc Rulli who asked me if I would go to bs wh him and do a fashn le. I thought about a long time and I eventually said y and Franc and I worked together for a number of years and then I stopped bee I jt didn't like the way was gog. Franc and I rema very iendly.</p><p>Then some years later, another Italian, Ricrdo Rami, asked me to start aga and that was about 2008 or '09. I did that up until two, three years ago. Eventually, spl wh them and then I went wh French partners and eventually stopped about 2017 I gus.</p><p><strong>What did you enjoy about ?</strong></p><p>Well, not bs bee I don't know anythg about bs. Unlike a lot of people who are maybe fantastilly snotty about , I jt don't have an aptu for . I'm not very good at .</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I'm a longtime fabric llector. I've always liked drawg, I like signg. I've signed stum many tim. I've signed lots of fabric. There are many thgs I loved about dog that work. But 's tough work actually. There are aspects of that don't tert me and that I don't see the pot of. I never had the money to, but I don't particularly want to advertise a fashn magaze so that someone will do an article about my leather jacket or whatever. It's not really my thg.</p><p>Productn beme very difficult Europe bee everythg is so expensive and then people whe, "Why is so expensive?" Then you say, "Bee 's not ma a sweatshop somewhere.” They say they want somethg nice but I'm not sure they know what that is and they don't really want to pay for and et cetera, et cetera. There's much I loved about dog but nothg I particularly miss.</p><p><strong>You built up a reputatn years ago as someone who was always wearg a su, so what are you wearg durg quarante—<a href=">sweats</a> like everyone else?</strong></p><p>I'm drsed super sually. It's very funny. Before I started a fashn le, I wore a su every day. Meang, I wore a su to garn. I wore a su to take a walk. For at least 15 years, I was never out of a su.</p><p>Then I got sick of draggg everythg around and sick of havg thgs ed at a hotel cleaner's. In the when I was my fifti and the half I've had my sixti, I've kd of traveled nonstop and ’s very hard to drag all that stuff around.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="un7cmw"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Weirdly, the mute I started signg fashn was the first time I ever got a pair of blue jeans, which were given to me at a fashn show, which they maybe still have the Javs Center, [om] a guy lled Michael Paradise. He has a pany I like very much lled the Stronghold out Venice Beach. They jt gave me a pair of jeans. I was like, "Oh, jeans. Wow." That's what I'm wearg today.</p><p>No. I don't really get that drsed up anymore. You know, now, all I really do is walk around. Cambridge is a pretty sual place. I thk if people saw you a su they'd maybe eak out.</p><p><strong>I was readg an old <a href="><em>Rollg Stone</em> profile</a> of you and Charlie Kfman is quoted as sayg that he wrote <em>Beg John Malkovich</em> bee, you “have this qualy of unknowabily, you n't look to his ey and know what's gog on si his head. You're closed off." I was wonrg if you would, first of all, agree wh that asssment and, if so, how much is tentnal and how much of that is jt nate?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I thk if any of 's te then 's jt nate. I mean, Charlie is, obvly, much cleverer than I am. He's observg me. I'm not observg me at all. I never thk of me. I never thk about “who am I?” “What is my place the world?” Et cetera. It's never been a big tert of me, me.</p><p>I don't really thk about my quali, alleged or actual. Am I closed off? Well, yeah, but I don't thk any even notable fashn, let alone sort of extraordary or pecially exemplary fashn. I mean, isn't everybody closed off?</p><p><strong>When you say that you don't thk about yourself the world do you mean as a human beg or regards to the nature of your celebry and how relat to the world?</strong></p><p>Both. It's jt not somethg I thk about. Gary Se, when we were kids at Steppenwolf, he directed a hilar play of Sam Shepard's lled <em>Actn</em>. I always remember a le that’s always ma me lgh and when Gary directed he ma the actors shout every personal pronoun. The le was: "I'm lookg forward to MY life. I'm lookg forward to ME, the way I picture ME."</p><p>See, I jt don't thk that way. I don't picture myself. I don't thk about myself. I don't thk about my effect on people. It's jt not part of my existence really. I'm never offend at what people say, really. Usually I thk, "Oh, that's tertg" but I never thk about unls someone asks me and then I fet about five sends.</p><p><strong>That seems like a fairly healthy way to move through the world.</strong></p><p>Well, you know, 's not on purpose. I thk to a great extent I jt thk we're born a certa way and I don't know how much chang. I'm aaid don't change much. I n talk to my iends om krgarten.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="1mub5e"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>In that same profile, you say after you lost money the Bernie Madoff sndal, you "had to go back to work a ls dilettante-ish way.” Are you still feelg the effects of that and is that still fluencg the work you’re dog?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Well, when I say a dilettante-ish way, I jt mean stop dog stuff for ee. Bee people always want you to do stuff for ee. For stance, if you do a film wh Manoel Oliveira that's not the livg you make dog one of the <em>Transformer</em> movi, you see?</p><p><strong>Sure.</strong></p><p>For me, I'm happy to do both but that jt sort of meant, "okay, you have to pretty much stick to thgs, which you get paid for." You know, I jt got proposed a uple of days ago a thg that they want to do durg all of this brouhaha: make a film where everybody films themselv on their phone and get out on a streamg service the next month, et cetera, et cetera. But I'm like, yeah, okay, except I don't really want to work for ee anymore. I've done 50 tim. It's okay. But I don't really want to do that anymore.</p><p>The Madoff thg, don't really matter. It’s not even tertg ... 's kd of easy e, easy go. I get to do somethg I love and I thk most people who work never get to do that their entire liv even for a few mut.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Coat Clothg Overat Apparel Su Stg Home Der Furnure and Chair" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnText-bHjzlu iUEiRd fgkCnW iXWezO ptn__text">John Malkovich <em>Space Force</em>, 2020.</span><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Aaron Epste for Netflix</span></div></figure><p><strong>What do you believe is your ft work as an actor?</strong></p><p>On the stage or movi?</p><p><strong>Let's say movi and televisn.</strong></p><p>Well, I thk a ltle-seen film I did that no one paid the slightt attentn to but I thk was not a bad performance. It was lled <em>Color Me Kubrick</em>. I played a gay English failed travel agent who went around the UK pretendg he was Stanley Kubrick, based on a te story. That's a pretty good performance.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="df8vv"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>A performance don't matter. Meang, a good performance a bad film or a film that don't succeed is a kd of waste of time. It exists a vacuum. I would say that's a good performance but bee of the shape of the film and what the film end up beg, me out like a sort of too-long succsn of sks.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-6 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>I thk <em>Dangero Liaisons, L Liaisons Dangers</em>, is a good film. I'm okay . I'm sure other people uld have done better but 's fe. I thk <em>In The Le Of Fire</em> is fe. I did okay. What else have I done? I don't know. Even somethg like <em>Shelterg Sky,</em> I thk is what is.</p><p>You know, I thk the vast majory of the world, meang pretty much everybody who watch films or even wr about them, there is nfn. And that is they nfe a character and what a character do or gets to do wh a good performance. Performance A is dull and lifels and mannered and horrific but performance B is geni and earth-shatterg and groundbreakg, but really you're fulfillg the requirements of a script and a director. When you're a film or a TV thg you're a figure someone else's dream. It's not my dream.</p><p>Performance, that's a really difficult thg to nail down, bee there are so many factors a performance that people would jt really have no ia. I n often see people who I thk are terrific somethg but the thg may not matter bee the whole thg don't work.</p><p><strong>In 2015, you ma a film lled <a href="><em>100 Years</em></a>, which is locked this vlt and n only be unearthed and screened 2115. Do you thk humany is gog to last until then?</strong></p><p>I assume, but as Blanche DuBois so rightly said, "Thgs have a way of turng out so badly." I don't know. You know, I remember a le a D.H. Lawrence novel about how nice would be if we uld jt not have humany and jt have a rabb nng across a field. I thk a lot of people thk that. I would image that people will go on and 's possible they uld go on until the sun burns out, whenever that will be. Would I bet on ? 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